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Which makes me disappointed because in the pilot Charlie was always my favorite character. You have this woman who doesn't feel resentment despite being born in hell and being the only human who is in hell despite that she's not a sinner. She has never known anything outside of the worst of humanity but despite that she still believes that the worst can become better, even though she has never seen humans be better. Charlie felt like a character that was really strong and compassionate but her strength was seen by everyone in hell as a weakness.

But instead of exploring that she's just a retard now because #relatable self insert girlfailure. Vaggie is her professional tard wrangler, she does trust falls with sinners, she doesn't know anything about how hell functions despite growing up there and being older than the rest of the main cast. Her optimism despite being face to face with the worst of humanity? It's not framed as strength of character anymore, she's just a sheltered nepo baby because Viv is a sheltered nepo baby.
Honestly the concept of Charlie and Lucifer inherently exhibiting traits of Good by being an Angel/born to an Angel, was always intriguing to me at the very least. Like that's why Lucifer's design doesnt inherently make me mad because he WAS an angel, it makes sense for him to look "pretty" or even have some "weenie" tendencies or hobbies from time to time (doting on his daughter, liking cute things, etc). But Vivienne doesn't do anything interesting beyond that, unfortunately. It's such a waste.
 
>Has stuck a prisoner deal with Vox.
>Is fucking winning
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I wonder would vox use imp to get more sinners in hell and bind them with a contract when they get in hell
Just a reminder that despite being confined only to one Ring and likely being a small minority in Hell's overall population, sinners (non native-born demons) are a higher class than the native-born demons who are not royalty (imps, hellhounds, and incubi/succubi).

Again, what did Viv mean by this?
 
Just a reminder that despite being confined only to one Ring and likely being a small minority in Hell's overall population, sinners (non native-born demons) are a higher class than the native-born demons who are not royalty (imps, hellhounds, and incubi/succubi).

Again, what did Viv mean by this?
When you remember that both shows take place in the same universe, the world building crumbles apart even more.
 
It just occurred to me that Abel hasn't done anything story relevant since his introduction earlier this season. He's pretty much just male Emily.
 
Anyway, speaking of this leaks, I've seen this image of Angel Dust as human floating around for season 3. No 100% confirmation of this being the real thing, but if it is...boy I hope this isn't final.
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Is that LS Mark?
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The episode mainly concerns Cherri, who is not really a main character and there's roughly ten more important characters than her because the cast is fucking bloated.
Even RWBY is looking at this show and saying "Come on, you don't need that many characters."
So Lucifer has no ability to fight Sinners as part of his banishment, which would explain why he isn't just an instant win button for this season. Why they didn't strip him of his ability to fight angels is still a massive question.
"With this new form of Kryptonite developed by Lexcorp, Superman will be unable to use his powers against any regular human. Of course, he still has the ability to fight superhumans like Bizarro."
I’m sure Charlie’s thread on Hell’s KiwiFarms equivalent is a pretty funny catalog of her various nepo-baby projects.
Or her awful attempts at rehabilitation.
Ok, so this is why Viv was worried about the connections.
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Wow, real origial comparing a politician to Trump.
THAT is Lucifer's true form?
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A beta femboy that is as intimidating as a sack of potatoes?

Completely submissive to sinners instead of being the ultimate sinner-grinder 3000 from medieval portraits?
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I'm still salty about the cancellation of Reaper over 15 years ago and I am still gonna point out that Ray wise was leagues more convincing as the devil despite being just a man in a suit.
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Being THE FUCKING DEVIL is a spectrum vivianne, when people asks you what is your favourite colour, "Yaoi" is not a fucking answer.
Another solid Lucifer homage is Brajira from Goseiger.
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He has a holy, yet sinister appearance that perfecly fits his character.
More like Satanist Borle am I right? :gunt: (The LaVeyan one)

Tranny colours WAOW!!!! So subtle.

TFW when you can't intimidate anyone:
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Time to post that clip again:
https://youtube.com/watch?v=N371QL5s3mg
In general, Supernatural did a better job with its depiction of demons and angels by making the conflict about humanity getting caught in the crossfire of the holy war between Heaven and Hell. It was more than "angels bad, demons good".
So what other "Vox is Trump" analogies are going to be made? I Val going remark that Vox has a tiny pee-pee when the Vees have a falling out?
Who would the Epstein allegory be?
All of this sounds extremely plausible for Viv, but I’m not exactly sure about AlastorXEmily becoming a canon romantic couple, though; certain idiots would complain like, ” but muh ace representation” and “oh, so the few two DARK-SKINNED characters on the show are antagonists, hmm?”.. Actually, all the crash-outs and shit over this could be really funny.
Have the two even shared a single scene together?
DAMN, SHE THIC--oh, it's just her dress. Nevermind.
But where are the dogs and cats? And why are we supposed to pretend Heaven has neither cats nor dogs? That isn't Heaven. That's SHIT.
That was even the entire premise of a Twilight Zone episode, where dogs not being allowed into Heaven was a lie created to trick people into Hell.
It just occurred to me that Abel hasn't done anything story relevant since his introduction earlier this season. He's pretty much just male Emily.
Either he fades into the background or he ends up being super evil while Cain ends up being good all along.
 
He has a holy, yet sinister appearance that perfecly fits his character.
One could pull out a near infinite amount of versions and interpretations that makes for a better representation of the character than viv, all versions of The Devil from people that understands what The Devil is.
Either he fades into the background or he ends up being super evil while Cain ends up being good all along.
Cain eventually did get a wife, had a son and built a whole city named after him.
I just had to read the passage so here's the TL;DR:
The story is simple: Cain was tasked to work the soil and Abel to take care of the herd.
Cain sacrifices the stuff he cultivated, nothing happens, Abel sacrifices the fattest meat from the firstborn animals and gains God's approval, so Cain kills Abel because he finds it unfair.
He lies to God, so he's forced to leave and God brands Cain to ensure anyone who harms him shall be punished even more. After some time, he meets a wife and builds family and a whole city.

This story too is the second big reason of why I find retarded whoever tries to tell me the Genesis has to be taken in a literal sense, regardless of that, it doesn't takes too much literary skills to write down some form of redemption for Cain for a crime committed a lifetime ago, you could even paint him as a tragic figure, forced to a job that led no hope of succedding as much as his brother, witness his brother attain said success and become consumed by jealously as result.

Abel on the other side couldn't really have been evil in life, as his naive trust toward his brother resulted in his death, and was so religiously faithful that even his blood called for God.
You could write him go vengeful, almost envious and angry toward his brother after death, even blinded to the beauty surrounding him in the afterlife and furhtermore paint a distorted mirror between the two: the one that can't grow and only decay, in mind and spirit, after his own literal death and ascension as a divine-like figure, and the penitent guilty, who eventually became a good man, working and an suffering to improve the world, finding joy in his surrounding despite being eternally branded for committing the most evil of sins.

I don't know if it's just me being good at writing, my writing skills being powered up by bile and hatred or this shit is just easier to write down than it looks, regardless this is the kind of stuff that viv misses, the point that the lowest common denominator often misses to notice and what distinguish banal storytelling from a timeless work of art.
 
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I finished watching Helluva Boss, it was dogshit and I want more. Could anyone recommend me a good online source for Hazbin Hotel episodes that doesn't require paying for a Prime subscription? All I'm aware of is a website that got linked here hundreds of pages ago, I'm still sifting through the thread trying to find it.
 
I finished watching Helluva Boss, it was dogshit and I want more. Could anyone recommend me a good online source for Hazbin Hotel episodes that doesn't require paying for a Prime subscription? All I'm aware of is a website that got linked here hundreds of pages ago, I'm still sifting through the thread trying to find it.
 
In general, Supernatural did a better job with its depiction of demons and angels by making the conflict about humanity getting caught in the crossfire of the holy war between Heaven and Hell. It was more than "angels bad, demons good".
Right. It was pretty gnostic in general, but at least they tried to do something with it.
Who would the Epstein allegory be?
Valentino or someone more competent. Probably ASSmodeous?
Baxter still hasn't done anything btw
He exists probably to be "troon representation".
 
I m gonna chim in that the pacing is off. I would say that episode 5 where vox is able to rally hell to invade heaven felt like it finally put some stakes

I think season did well with the voice over about the exterminations, right out the gate you had a ticking clock.

The season would flow better if there was less focus on heaven and more on setting the stakes and goin from there.
 
Recognizing Zach Hadel's voice as the screaming rain and the rabbit guy in the casino gave me a hearty chuckle.

"That was HOT! Wait is that gay? Does that make me gay?"
 
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