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Do you believe that this series will turn to shit?


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"We're gonna make hell great, its gonna be the biggest, beautiful pyre for sinners. And we're gonna make heaven pay for it!"
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*starts doing that*
 
Honestly I'm just glad that HH has actual villains with their own goals (not tied to just wanting to fuck over the main cast), and that they aren't embarrassing failures like the "villains" in HB. I can only assume tard wrangling is taking place behind the scenes.
 
As funny as that sounds, I don't see her as a Tomlinson type. Probably closer to Chris-chan - early Chris-chan - in terms of being hopelessly naive and clueless and constantly walking into problems she could've avoided.
If anything, it's Alastor who is the Tomlinson type.

"No child, if you came near me you would be held immobilized until your soul belonged to me. This is why your freedom is already over. Enjoy servitude."

Then he proceeds to get humiliated in an actual fight by Big Dick Adam and needs a shadow tendril escort away.
 
i wonder why didn’t Lucifer have Camilla on his side
Feels like a plot oversight. By having her being the only source of angelic metal (does it have a name?) Without her support they don't have any way of inflicting death. It would of made more sense if they had vox size her stockpile.

As a side note... why are people so afraid of magical powers when lore wise they can't kill you. You just respawn?
 
Lurking around on /co/ yesterday and someone who allegedly knows Viv's circle posted this. I believe it somehow, but I hate it. (Potential spoilers for the series ending of Hazbin).

tl;dr, it's worse than I expected:
>Lucifer is redeemed earlier than expected
>Audience might think Alastor is "getting soft", turns out he was just getting the other overlords out of the way
>Alastor charms Emily into becoming his useful tool to lower heaven's defenses
>Big Alastor/Charlie battle
>Everyone in Heaven is looking down and cheering her on "just like the jedi"
>Alastor kills Charlie
>Charlie becomes Hell Jesus
>Everyone from Hell is saved
>Emily becomes a fallen angel and arrives to an empty hell as Alastor’s queen



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The implication of Alastor potentially manipulating what looks like a fucking (loli) CHILD if not a late adolescent in the heavens realm it s absolutely horrifying, and arrived at this point i wouldn't be surprised if this was the original plan from Viv all along since she is a dogshit story writer. You know what, Viv? Keep writing about your boylove stories, spare us this pain at least. :jacepout::deagleleft:

Also, what is the point of Lucifer not being able to hurt sinners?
Uh? What would stop then ANY OVERLORD to suckerpunch him into oblivion and declare themselves as the new King?
Did I miss something?
 
Uh? What would stop then ANY OVERLORD to suckerpunch him into oblivion and declare themselves as the new King?
Did I miss something?

Presumably he in turn can't be hurt by other sinners or overlords, similar to the Mark of Cain.

Where is Cain, by the way? We've met Abel. Maybe he's hiding out in the Vampire RPG, possibly because even that is less gay than this.

On the other hand, it's obvious we're both putting more thought into this than the actual writer(s).
 
Vox unironically is the best character Viv created from both shows cause he really is the most entertaining character this season and is an actually good villain. It also really helps that he fits the idea I said about him being more similar to the traditional idea of Lucifer being the guy who'd rise up against Heaven whereas the Lucifer who can't hurt Sinners (which actually is a good justification for why he's not an instant win button) shares similarities with Dante's Lucifer in being more of a prisoner of Hell than an enforcer. Hell the Angel Dust twist is pretty good since it actually shows how Vox is a smart character than just magically reading the script

Charlie being called out on her shit is nice so hopefully it goes somewhere good and curious to how the long game for Alastor is going to play out

That said, Sera continues to be the dumbest character in the show. Emily and Abel could be forgiven for their stupidity since they are either young or inexperienced but Sera thought it was a good idea to bring someone eager for more exterminations into Hell, and wouldn't at all bring Pentious when he is the instant proof to disprove shit.

Now I’m just wondering how she would argue in her thread?
She'd probably make a lot of alt accounts to defend herself before realizing the basic advice of not feeding the trolls
 
Vox unironically is the best character Viv created from both shows cause he really is the most entertaining character this season and is an actually good villain. It also really helps that he fits the idea I said about him being more similar to the traditional idea of Lucifer being the guy who'd rise up against Heaven whereas the Lucifer who can't hurt Sinners (which actually is a good justification for why he's not an instant win button) shares similarities with Dante's Lucifer in being more of a prisoner of Hell than an enforcer. Hell the Angel Dust twist is pretty good since it actually shows how Vox is a smart character than just magically reading the script

Charlie being called out on her shit is nice so hopefully it goes somewhere good and curious to how the long game for Alastor is going to play out

That said, Sera continues to be the dumbest character in the show. Emily and Abel could be forgiven for their stupidity since they are either young or inexperienced but Sera thought it was a good idea to bring someone eager for more exterminations into Hell, and wouldn't at all bring Pentious when he is the instant proof to disprove shit.


She'd probably make a lot of alt accounts to defend herself before realizing the basic advice of not feeding the trolls
And probably sing a song about it. Now I’m wondering how alastor would react to all the mockery
 
That said, Sera continues to be the dumbest character in the show. Emily and Abel could be forgiven for their stupidity since they are either young or inexperienced but Sera thought it was a good idea to bring someone eager for more exterminations into Hell, and wouldn't at all bring Pentious when he is the instant proof to disprove shit.
It better be revealed that Sir Pentious can't physically leave Heaven. Otherwise, it seems like the conflict of this whole season could have been easily solved if Sir Pentious could just pop down in Hell for a couple of minutes.
 
Feels like a plot oversight. By having her being the only source of angelic metal (does it have a name?) Without her support they don't have any way of inflicting death. It would of made more sense if they had vox size her stockpile.

As a side note... why are people so afraid of magical powers when lore wise they can't kill you. You just respawn?
this gives me another thought why isn’t Camilla targeted by heaven 24/7
 
>Lucifer is redeemed earlier than expected
I have to agree with the Indians in scamming: (Lucifer) does not (get to be) REDEEMED!!! (sars).
>Audience might think Alastor is "getting soft", turns out he was just getting the other overlords out of the way
>Alastor charms Emily into becoming his useful tool to lower heaven's defenses
3000 IQ plan, then, because that's a very childish way to do this.
>Alastor kills Charlie
>Charlie becomes Hell Jesus
>Everyone from Hell is saved
>Emily becomes a fallen angel and arrives to an empty hell as Alastor’s queen
Back in YouTube's golden era, when people used to do those D-quality videos, right?
One of the thousands of them was one with Mortal Kombat. I can't find it right now, but it was something along the lines of "Stupid Mortal Kombat", I got that thanks to a This Is How You DON'T Play "Doom" of DarkSydePhil.
Anyway, in one of those episodes, it's a fat-looking Shao Kahn yelling "WHAT?!?!?". I wanted to get it, because it's a perfect reaction image.

Let me get the exact timing just so you can see on the video:
Also, from the entire bad guy lineup we have in this show:
>the First Man and his schizo second-in-command
>the overlords of new media
>the First Woman... potentially both of them
>the literal personification of evil as a concept

Yet it's the dorky fucking pay-to-win edgelord from New Orleans with only a couple of pettily-motivated kills to his name that ends up as the final boss? You know what, yeah, that actually seems on par for this show.
What do you mean? If anything, series like Game of Thrones has told us everything about SUBVERSION OF TROPES!!! We killed the winter guy and then Cersei and Jack Sparrow lookalike were the final bosses. Not something nuanced as "human nature would start bickering again sooner or later after years".
 
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It better be revealed that Sir Pentious can't physically leave Heaven. Otherwise, it seems like the conflict of this whole season could have been easily solved if Sir Pentious could just pop down in Hell for a couple of minutes.
Even if that were the case, Sera has magical crystal balls that can show shit from anywhere and whose to say she can't show a vision of Pentious
 
That said, Sera continues to be the dumbest character in the show. Emily and Abel could be forgiven for their stupidity since they are either young or inexperienced but Sera thought it was a good idea to bring someone eager for more exterminations into Hell, and wouldn't at all bring Pentious when he is the instant proof to disprove shit.
Imagine if Sera wasn't a complete moron, she brings Pentious along and showed redemption was possible and Heaven is willing to immediately cease the exterminations and endorse Charlie's hotel. But while some of Vox's big crowd puts down the pitchforks, the vast majority don't, but for a moment it looks like tensions might begin to cool down, until Vox eventually manages to salvage things by successfully ragebaiting Sera by riling up the remaining crowd like he actually did and keeps people from jumping ship.

This makes Sera look much more competent even if she still fell for Vox's ploy and increases Vox's perceived threat by showing him outplaying an opponent who doesn't have a room temperature IQ.
 
Lurking around on /co/ yesterday and someone who allegedly knows Viv's circle posted this. I believe it somehow, but I hate it. (Potential spoilers for the series ending of Hazbin).

tl;dr, it's worse than I expected:
>Lucifer is redeemed earlier than expected
>Audience might think Alastor is "getting soft", turns out he was just getting the other overlords out of the way
>Alastor charms Emily into becoming his useful tool to lower heaven's defenses
>Big Alastor/Charlie battle
>Everyone in Heaven is looking down and cheering her on "just like the jedi"
>Alastor kills Charlie
>Charlie becomes Hell Jesus
>Everyone from Hell is saved
>Emily becomes a fallen angel and arrives to an empty hell as Alastor’s queen



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All of this sounds extremely plausible for Viv, but I’m not exactly sure about AlastorXEmily becoming a canon romantic couple, though; certain idiots would complain like, ” but muh ace representation” and “oh, so the few two DARK-SKINNED characters on the show are antagonists, hmm?”.. Actually, all the crash-outs and shit over this could be really funny.
 
I really enjoyed seeing Vox call everyone out on their stupidity, he also looked sick with the fake wings.

Lurking around on /co/ yesterday and someone who allegedly knows Viv's circle posted this. I believe it somehow, but I hate it. (Potential spoilers for the series ending of Hazbin).

tl;dr, it's worse than I expected:
>Lucifer is redeemed earlier than expected
>Audience might think Alastor is "getting soft", turns out he was just getting the other overlords out of the way
>Alastor charms Emily into becoming his useful tool to lower heaven's defenses
>Big Alastor/Charlie battle
>Everyone in Heaven is looking down and cheering her on "just like the jedi"
>Alastor kills Charlie
>Charlie becomes Hell Jesus
>Everyone from Hell is saved
>Emily becomes a fallen angel and arrives to an empty hell as Alastor’s queen



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I can believe pretty much all of this. :story: Emily x Alastor (assuming they'd become a legit couple and Emily's not just a stand-in queen) is the wildest part and would definitely piss people off.
 
Imagine if Sera wasn't a complete moron, she brings Pentious along and showed redemption was possible and Heaven is willing to immediately cease the exterminations and endorse Charlie's hotel. But while some of Vox's big crowd puts down the pitchforks, the vast majority don't, but for a moment it looks like tensions might begin to cool down, until Vox eventually manages to salvage things by successfully ragebaiting Sera by riling up the remaining crowd like he actually did and keeps people from jumping ship.

This makes Sera look much more competent even if she still fell for Vox's ploy and increases Vox's perceived threat by showing him outplaying an opponent who doesn't have a room temperature IQ.

I think sinners can't leave heaven much like they can't leave the first ring of hell.

I could be wrong but I don't think that rule has been broken yet. I " think" there is a difference between souls in paradise and Angels.

It's a reach but I'm trying to tug at strings.
 
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