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Too bad it's the left who started it. They made it clear that the end game is a total ban on all private firearms.


Well if it weren't for gun grabbers to not leave well enough alone we wouldn't have to fight tooth and nail for our rights.

Also I want to go back to the 50's when I could just have guns shipped to my home without the need for an FFL. Also the days when the NFA didn't exist so we can just buy machine guns as easy as we can for semi-auto guns and celebrate freedom the way God intended.
the only guns you can get shipped to your house without FFL now are pre-1898 guns. And because the ATF is not very bright, they arbitrarily decide which guns fall on what side of the 1898 cutoff in total disregard of actual manufacturing dates. You can have a gun that was manufactured 5 or 10 years before the cutoff, provable with serial number ranges and matching manufacturer's archival documentation, but all that won't help if the ATF incorrectly decides the entire production run happened after 1898
 
the only guns you can get shipped to your house without FFL now are pre-1898 guns. And because the ATF is not very bright, they arbitrarily decide which guns fall on what side of the 1898 cutoff in total disregard of actual manufacturing dates. You can have a gun that was manufactured 5 or 10 years before the cutoff, provable with serial number ranges and matching manufacturer's archival documentation, but all that won't help if the ATF incorrectly decides the entire production run happened after 1898
I thought it was just guns that were designed before 1898? I can totally get a reproduction of Colt's 1851 Navy revolver shipped to my front door, even if it was manufactured last week.
 
Guns are gay lol

Give everyone swords. Would you rather see two black kids shoot each other or two weebs have an extended comedy of errors katana fight over some dumb shit anime. Think about it.
 
the only guns you can get shipped to your house without FFL now are pre-1898 guns. And because the ATF is not very bright, they arbitrarily decide which guns fall on what side of the 1898 cutoff in total disregard of actual manufacturing dates. You can have a gun that was manufactured 5 or 10 years before the cutoff, provable with serial number ranges and matching manufacturer's archival documentation, but all that won't help if the ATF incorrectly decides the entire production run happened after 1898
I know...hence I want to go back to the pre 1968 Gun Control Act bullshit that is stupid. I honestly feel it's time for gun owners to push back and repeal all gun laws except no felons, crazies, etc. being allowed to have a gun. All other people it's open season. We should all carry guns. Like packing MP5's, AK's, and M4's all day and everyday.

anybody can kill someone with a gun, real men kill people with claymores
I tried to use a claymore to kill some niggos. The explosion kicked me back and sent them to the great watermelon in the sky. I got charged with 2nd degree murder but luckily got acquitted. Florida is awesome.

Guns are gay lol

Give everyone swords. Would you rather see two black kids shoot each other or two weebs have an extended comedy of errors katana fight over some dumb shit anime. Think about it.
Weeabo detected. Go get laid, faggot.

I thought it was just guns that were designed before 1898? I can totally get a reproduction of Colt's 1851 Navy revolver shipped to my front door, even if it was manufactured last week.
Black powder guns aren't considered firearms by the ATF, that's why you can have them shipped to your home. Any gun built before 1898 can be shipped to your door.
 
anybody can kill someone with a gun, real men kill people with claymores
If the yakuza series taught me anything is that anything is a weapon if you hit people with it hard enought
I even made my own fighting style called the mad dog of autism style™ that uses my superior japanese tanto katana folded 1000 times on mount fuji on a blue moon infused with the power of the north star
 
Here's a deep thought to ponder for all the pro-gun proponents and the exceptional "legislation don't do nuffin" argument. What is the overlap between people who believe in the use of laws to control and punish gang violence but then say there's nothing we can do about guns cause that won't work to save the innocents and children. Welp those crazies are gonna get guns anyways - we don't need gun laws. What portion of those who believe both previous statements to be true and not inconsistent? What portion believe all of the following as well: People are gonna get a hold a drugs anyways - we don't need drug legislation. People are gonna murder people - we don't need laws about murder. People are gonna speed - we don't need speeding laws or traffic laws.

It's an inherent question of if one believes in the purpose and overall effect laws have. Are laws perfect? No, but we use them as one way to normalize what we deem as acceptable behavior in our society and try to wrangle the most horrible around us. It is to way to ward off people who entertain the thoughts but are not sure on acting on it - fear of punishment, loss of money, time and reputation can do the trick for a good portion of society. The ones that don't obey them get made an example of. That's the purpose of laws. It's why we also continue to make laws and amend them - because societies are not stagnant which is why new laws or made or are amended.

If you think laws are all bullshit but don't mind much the ones that are already in place or do jack shit about them because you benefit from them you are kinda a piss poor anarchist and like you should seriously step your shit up if you want to use it as an impact line of argument. Put your money where your mouth is and try actually dismantling shit. Disobey whatever law you like - they don't really do anything if you really want to do it and just believe. However, if you don't want to pursue that life because of all the bullshit and baggage that comes along with that lifestyle - congrats you have experienced an intended effect of laws. Otherwise that person is just some dweeb that likes to use a flawed argument to say nothing in society can change. Even though historically, politically and realistically laws have an impact on societies and cultures.

Sorry people are asking gun owners to do some more legwork through paperwork, training, background checks so they can enjoy a pastime or hunting. Sorry some people only want you to have access to certain types of weapons if you are trained to do so and paid to murder people when the country demands it. The person is handling an object that very easily kills people, quickly and efficiently. And Americans as a society are having a large portion of people die from them because so many gun owners are proving not to be all that responsible. Lots of accidental deaths among the purposeful homicides and suicides by gunfire. Those are all things that could be decreased and should be.

What's the overlap between pro-gun proponets and shouts of "Lock her up?" or "Law and Order" as a rallying cry? But nah, laws about guns? That doesn't do jack shit, we're all just fucking animals.

Also don't @ me with that God-given shit - laws are written by people. I don't recall a strike of thunder coming down from the mountain top to when God wrote in the 10 commandments "But muh gun-rights."
 
Here's a deep thought to ponder for all the pro-gun proponents and the exceptional "legislation don't do nuffin" argument. What is the overlap between people who believe in the use of laws to control and punish gang violence but then say there's nothing we can do about guns cause that won't work to save the innocents and children. Welp those crazies are gonna get guns anyways - we don't need gun laws. What portion of those who believe both previous statements to be true and not inconsistent? What portion believe all of the following as well: People are gonna get a hold a drugs anyways - we don't need drug legislation. People are gonna murder people - we don't need laws about murder. People are gonna speed - we don't need speeding laws or traffic laws.

It's an inherent question of if one believes in the purpose and overall effect laws have. Are laws perfect? No, but we use them as one way to normalize what we deem as acceptable behavior in our society and try to wrangle the most horrible around us. It is to way to ward off people who entertain the thoughts but are not sure on acting on it - fear of punishment, loss of money, time and reputation can do the trick for a good portion of society. The ones that don't obey them get made an example of. That's the purpose of laws. It's why we also continue to make laws and amend them - because societies are not stagnant which is why new laws or made or are amended.

If you think laws are all bullshit but don't mind much the ones that are already in place or do jack shit about them because you benefit from them you are kinda a piss poor anarchist and like you should seriously step your shit up if you want to use it as an impact line of argument. Put your money where your mouth is and try actually dismantling shit. Disobey whatever law you like - they don't really do anything if you really want to do it and just believe. However, if you don't want to pursue that life because of all the bullshit and baggage that comes along with that lifestyle - congrats you have experienced an intended effect of laws. Otherwise that person is just some dweeb that likes to use a flawed argument to say nothing in society can change. Even though historically, politically and realistically laws have an impact on societies and cultures.

Sorry people are asking gun owners to do some more legwork through paperwork, training, background checks so they can enjoy a pastime or hunting. Sorry some people only want you to have access to certain types of weapons if you are trained to do so and paid to murder people when the country demands it. The person is handling an object that very easily kills people, quickly and efficiently. And Americans as a society are having a large portion of people die from them because so many gun owners are proving not to be all that responsible. Lots of accidental deaths among the purposeful homicides and suicides by gunfire. Those are all things that could be decreased and should be.

What's the overlap between pro-gun proponets and shouts of "Lock her up?" or "Law and Order" as a rallying cry? But nah, laws about guns? That doesn't do jack shit, we're all just fucking animals.

Also don't @ me with that God-given shit - laws are written by people. I don't recall a strike of thunder coming down from the mountain top to when God wrote in the 10 commandments "But muh gun-rights."
Because then people would have to relly on the police for personal defence instead of having a fighting chance, seems to me like you are one of those morons that has never had to deal with heavy shit and sometimes waiting for the cops is not an option
 
Because then people would have to relly on the police for personal defence instead of having a fighting chance, seems to me like you are one of those morons that has never had to deal with heavy shit and sometimes waiting for the cops is not an option

People tend to not act in protection of others in a mass shooter situation even when there are legal gun owners with guns available. It's what happened in the Vegas shooting and others. Why? They are afraid of interfering or confusing police or being deemed the shooter and shot or apprehended. This is because people (at least white people cause they are not immediately shot in mass murder situations) to obey and trust police. When police are not involved shooters are more often taken down by unarmed people.

Do you not trust police to do their jobs? Are you with BLM? Better start telling the police to fuck off.
 
Here's a deep thought to ponder for all the pro-gun proponents and the exceptional "legislation don't do nuffin" argument. What is the overlap between people who believe in the use of laws to control and punish gang violence but then say there's nothing we can do about guns cause that won't work to save the innocents and children. Welp those crazies are gonna get guns anyways - we don't need gun laws. What portion of those who believe both previous statements to be true and not inconsistent? What portion believe all of the following as well: People are gonna get a hold a drugs anyways - we don't need drug legislation. People are gonna murder people - we don't need laws about murder. People are gonna speed - we don't need speeding laws or traffic laws.

It's an inherent question of if one believes in the purpose and overall effect laws have. Are laws perfect? No, but we use them as one way to normalize what we deem as acceptable behavior in our society and try to wrangle the most horrible around us. It is to way to ward off people who entertain the thoughts but are not sure on acting on it - fear of punishment, loss of money, time and reputation can do the trick for a good portion of society. The ones that don't obey them get made an example of. That's the purpose of laws. It's why we also continue to make laws and amend them - because societies are not stagnant which is why new laws or made or are amended.

If you think laws are all bullshit but don't mind much the ones that are already in place or do jack shit about them because you benefit from them you are kinda a piss poor anarchist and like you should seriously step your shit up if you want to use it as an impact line of argument. Put your money where your mouth is and try actually dismantling shit. Disobey whatever law you like - they don't really do anything if you really want to do it and just believe. However, if you don't want to pursue that life because of all the bullshit and baggage that comes along with that lifestyle - congrats you have experienced an intended effect of laws. Otherwise that person is just some dweeb that likes to use a flawed argument to say nothing in society can change. Even though historically, politically and realistically laws have an impact on societies and cultures.

Sorry people are asking gun owners to do some more legwork through paperwork, training, background checks so they can enjoy a pastime or hunting. Sorry some people only want you to have access to certain types of weapons if you are trained to do so and paid to murder people when the country demands it. The person is handling an object that very easily kills people, quickly and efficiently. And Americans as a society are having a large portion of people die from them because so many gun owners are proving not to be all that responsible. Lots of accidental deaths among the purposeful homicides and suicides by gunfire. Those are all things that could be decreased and should be.

What's the overlap between pro-gun proponets and shouts of "Lock her up?" or "Law and Order" as a rallying cry? But nah, laws about guns? That doesn't do jack shit, we're all just fucking animals.

Also don't @ me with that God-given shit - laws are written by people. I don't recall a strike of thunder coming down from the mountain top to when God wrote in the 10 commandments "But muh gun-rights."
Laws that make things that aren't inherently criminal creates criminals. Murder is never justifiable because at its core it's an immoral act. Owning a gun isn't the same as murder. It's a neutral thing. Could be good or evil done with it.

Also all drugs should be allowed and it's when you hurt others when you should be punished. If you wanna drink, smoke, shoot up, toke, etc. on your couch and be a bum? Great go right ahead. If you are neglecting/abusing your kids, robbing people for your fix, or engaging in other criminal activity, you belong in prison.

The Second Amendment isn't about hunting. It's about the People being armed to keep a government from becoming too tyrannical and if it comes to it to violently overthrow it.

You realize that serving in your country's military and killing someone in that service isn't the same as murder, right?

I don't think you do and hence I wonder if you're that dense to think this was a well-written/thought out post.

Again, no compromise, no more concession, it's time for Pro-Freedom Gun Owners to push back.

Also you think 30k a year out of a population of 300 million is a large portion? You failed math. Cars, smoking, alcohol, etc. kill way more people every year. Smoking has no real purpose to it, guns do.
 
The Second Amendment isn't about hunting. It's about the People being armed to keep a government from becoming too tyrannical and if it comes to it to violently overthrow it.
Well it's about militias technically and not individuals but that doesn't stop Americans to make it about hunting laws or an individual's and try to rope the people that care about that shit too.

PS Fun fact the Constitution can be amended. Crazy. I know. But you seem like a state's right fan though, weird there are all these gun-control laws being put in place statewise right now and none of them have been deemed unconstitutional thus far. They might even be deemed what the majority of the population want. It's almost like this line of argument doesn't hold up.

Also you think 30k a year out of a population of 300 million is a large portion? You failed math. Cars, smoking, alcohol, etc. kill way more people every year. Smoking has no real purpose to it, guns do.
Weirdly enough we regulate all those others things because you know they can kill people.
 
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Well it's about militias technically and not individuals but that doesn't stop Americans to make it about hunting laws or an individual's and try to rope the people that care about that shit too.

PS Fun fact the Constitution can be amended. Crazy. I know. But you seem like a state's right fan though, weird there are all these gun-control laws being put in place statewise right now and none of them have been deemed unconstitutional thus far. They might even be deemed what the majority of the population want. It's almost like this line of argument doesn't hold up.
Fun fact we're a republic not a democracy for a reason. Try to get the constitution amended. In this case you don't have the clout.

Also just because retards think it's about hunting doesn't change what the second amendment is all about. Hence why the founding fathers knew not to just make the USA a democracy because idiots would turn our country into a horrible liberal hellhole.

So try and take our guns, it won't end well for you.
 
Fun fact we're a republic not a democracy for a reason. Try to get the constitution amended. In this case you don't have the clout.
You do understand that a republic is a form of democracy, right? That's like saying "HAH, you think that's a golden retriever, that's a dog you dumbass" - a republic is a type of democracy. It's crazy the founding fathers spent all this time crafting this really complex form of representation government because they legit kinda wrote a lot about why they cared a lot about democracies. So no.

Also have fun starting up your individual overthrow of the government against the American industrial-military complex.

So try and take our guns, it won't end well for you.
Ah yes, because I am pushing for law reformation - you know because republics respect laws - I should be murdered since I don't agree with you. That sounds morally sound. Or was I not suppose to take that as a threat? How else can't it end well? We're already living in a murder hellscape, I just support laws to decrease that. The whole government overthrow thing I don't believe in because hell we got this structure to work with which the founding fathers worked pretty hard on and you seem to respect them - why not work with it. But if it was all shit anyways why do you even bother to vote if you are hell bent on overthrowing the government because your opinion and worldview matter the most and are unquestionably right?
 
You do understand that a republic is a form of democracy, right? That's like saying "HAH, you think that's a golden retriever, that's a dog you dumbass" - a republic is a type of democracy. It's crazy the founding fathers spent all this time crafting this really complex form of representation government because they legit kinda wrote a lot about why they cared a lot about democracies. So no.

Also have fun starting up your individual overthrow of the government against the American industrial-military complex.


Ah yes, because I am pushing for law reformation - you know because republics respect laws - I should be murdered since I don't agree with you. That sounds morally sound. Or was I not suppose to take that as a threat? How else can't it end well? We're already living in a murder hellscape, I just support laws to decrease that. The whole government overthrow thing I don't believe in because hell we got this structure to work with which the founding fathers worked pretty hard on and you seem to respect them - why not work with it. But if it was all shit anyways why do you even bother to vote if you are hell bent on overthrowing the government because your opinion and worldview matter the most and are unquestionably right?
Are you that stupid?
Do you really believe the army would be fine with killing their own civilians and the us would just start nuking their own territory?
You seem like a retard buddy
 
Do you really believe the army would be fine with killing their own civilians
They done it before? Ever hear of the Whiskey Rebellion? This is when Americans were very hot about starting uprising because they weren't agreeing with the government.

Edit: There was also that whole Civil War thing. No biggie.
 
Weirdly enough we regulate all those others things because you know they can kill people.
I love how you gun grabbers act like there are no regulations on guns. There are plenty. Smoking has no inherent value at all. By your liberal logic it should be illegal. Why are you focusing on guns when tobacco has killed way more people. Same with booze. Booze is not necessary to survive in life, why not push to ban it? Oh wait we tried that, it didn't work. It's almost like making something illegal doesn't get rid of it.

You do understand that a republic is a form of democracy, right? That's like saying "HAH, you think that's a golden retriever, that's a dog you dumbass" - a republic is a type of democracy. It's crazy the founding fathers spent all this time crafting this really complex form of representation government because they legit kinda wrote a lot about why they cared a lot about democracies. So no.

Also have fun starting up your individual overthrow of the government against the American industrial-military complex.


Ah yes, because I am pushing for law reformation - you know because republics respect laws - I should be murdered since I don't agree with you. That sounds morally sound. Or was I not suppose to take that as a threat? How else can't it end well? We're already living in a murder hellscape, I just support laws to decrease that. The whole government overthrow thing I don't believe in because hell we got this structure to work with which the founding fathers worked pretty hard on and you seem to respect - why not work with it. But if it was all shit anyways why do you even bother to vote if you are hell bent on overthrowing the government because your opinion and worldview matter the most and are unquestionably right?
Because I'm completely alone in my train of thought? Yeah okay. Also the military industrial complex lost to rice farmers and goat herders who used guns and booby traps. Granted they are supported by outside parties but so would a revolution in this country. Do you think fighter jets can patrol streets? Do you think tanks are invulnerable to people? I wager you probably do. I learned techniques on how to disable tanks when I was in the US army as an infantryman (11B, queens of battle!). They're really vulnerable to infantry because they're designed to fight other tanks. Hence why you have infantry support for tanks. That and also air defense support that rolls with them. It's basically like when the navy sends out an aircraft carrier. The thing is surrounded by defensive ships.

I never advocated murder (do you have some sort of fetish for that word?), I said it won't end well for the left if they try to take our guns. Self-defense isn't murder. I know the nuances of the English language can be stifling but try to keep up.

Also one last thing, the Founding Fathers advocated that if a government becomes tyrannical it's your duty to overthrow it. Sort of the main message of the Declaration of Independence.
 
They done it before? Ever hear of the Whiskey Rebellion? This is when Americans were very hot about starting uprising because they weren't agreeing with the government.

Edit: There was also that whole Civil War thing. No biggie.
The whiskey rebellion wasnt an uprising you dumb cunt, it was an armed manifestation telling the goverment to stop taxing everything like the british, and less than 10 people died due to the army acting in self defence
And the civil war is well.....a civilian war moron
 
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