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Why is Greta Thunberg so triggering? How can a 16-year-old girl in plaits, who has dedicated herself to the not-exactly sinister, authoritarian plot of trying to save the planet from extinction, inspire such incandescent rage?

Last week, she tweeted that she had arrived into New York after her two week transatlantic voyage: “Finally here. Thank you everyone who came to see me off in Plymouth, and everyone who welcomed me in New York! Now I’m going to rest for a few days, and on Friday I’m going to participate in the strike outside the UN”, before promptly giving a press conference in English. Yes, her second language.

Her remarks were immediately greeted with a barrage of jibes about virtue signalling, and snide remarks about the three crew members who will have to fly out to take the yacht home.

This shouldn’t need to be spelled out, but as some people don’t seem to have grasped it yet, we’ll give it a lash: Thunberg’s trip was an act of protest, not a sacred commandment or an instruction manual for the rest of us. Like all acts of protest, it was designed to be symbolic and provocative. For those who missed the point – and oh, how they missed the point – she retweeted someone else’s “friendly reminder” that: “You don’t need to spend two weeks on a boat to do your part to avert our climate emergency. You just need to do everything you can, with everyone you can, to change everything you can.”

Part of the reason she inspires such rage, of course, is blindingly obvious. Climate change is terrifying. The Amazon is burning. So too is the Savannah. Parts of the Arctic are on fire. Sea levels are rising. There are more vicious storms and wildfires and droughts and floods. Denial is easier than confronting the terrifying truth.

Then there’s the fact that we don’t like being made to feel bad about our life choices. That’s human nature. It’s why we sneer at vegans. It’s why we’re suspicious of sober people at parties. And if anything is likely to make you feel bad about your life choices -- as you jet back home after your third Ryanair European minibreak this season – it’ll be the sight of small-boned child subjecting herself to a fortnight being tossed about on the Atlantic, with only a bucket bearing a “Poo Only Please” sign by way of luxury, in order to make a point about climate change.

But that’s not virtue signalling, which anyone can indulge in. As Meghan Markle, Prince Harry, and their-four-private-jets-in-11-days found recently, virtue practising is a lot harder.

Even for someone who spends a lot of time on Twitter, some of the criticism levelled at Thunberg is astonishing. It is, simultaneously, the most vicious and the most fatuous kind of playground bullying. The Australian conservative climate change denier Andrew Bolt called her “deeply disturbed” and “freakishly influential” (the use of “freakish”, we can assume, was not incidental.) The former UKIP funder, Arron Banks, tweeted “Freaking yacht accidents do happen in August” (as above.) Brendan O’Neill of Spiked called her a “millenarian weirdo” (nope, still not incidental) in a piece that referred nastily to her “monotone voice” and “the look of apocalyptic dread in her eyes”.

But who’s the real freak – the activist whose determination has single-handedly started a powerful global movement for change, or the middle-aged man taunting a child with Asperger syndrome from behind the safety of their computer screens?

And that, of course, is the real reason why Greta Thunberg is so triggering. They can’t admit it even to themselves, so they ridicule her instead. But the truth is that they’re afraid of her. The poor dears are terrified of her as an individual, and of what she stands for – youth, determination, change.

She is part of a generation who won’t be cowed. She isn’t about to be shamed into submission by trolls. That’s not actually a look of apocalyptic dread in her eyes. It’s a look that says “you’re not relevant”.

The reason they taunt her with childish insults is because that’s all they’ve got. They’re out of ideas. They can’t dismantle her arguments, because she has science – and David Attenborough – on her side. They can’t win the debate with the persuasive force of their arguments, because these bargain bin cranks trade in jaded cynicism, not youthful passion. They can harangue her with snide tweets and hot take blogposts, but they won’t get a reaction because, frankly, she has bigger worries on her mind.

That’s not to say that we should accept everything Thunberg says without question. She is an idealist who is young enough to see the world in black and white. We need voices like hers. We should listen to what she has to say, without tuning the more moderate voices of dissent out.

Why is Greta Thunberg so triggering? Because of what she represents. In an age when democracy is under assault, she hints at the emergency of new kind of power, a convergence of youth, popular protest and irrefutable science. And for her loudest detractors, she also represents something else: the sight of their impending obsolescence hurtling towards them.

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Found this thought-provoking indeed.
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If anyone is still talking about her by the end of this month, I’ll be genuinely surprised. Seems dumb to be hanging her in effigy. Now her billionaire handlers like Gates and Soros absolutely should be hung in effigy.
 
This article is trending right now among the activists. They really feel that Greta was the call to arms that they needed.

Tomorrow is going to be crazy.

newrepublic.com

The Next Standing Rock Is Everywhere

The fight to stave off pipeline projects across the country is being led by tribal nations and marginalized communities. It's time to listen to them before it's too late.
newrepublic.com newrepublic.com

I’ve been trying to archive the news article, but it has failed on me for over an hour now. Can someone else try.

Update: Checked Greta’s Facebook while walking to my car. She has a post on the pipeline and she’s been flooded with comments and shares.
 
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Spicy Tacos said:
This article is trending right now among the activists. They really feel that Greta was the call to arms that they needed.

Tomorrow is going to be crazy.

newrepublic.com

The Next Standing Rock Is Everywhere

The fight to stave off pipeline projects across the country is being led by tribal nations and marginalized communities. It's time to listen to them before it's too late.
newrepublic.com newrepublic.com

I’ve been trying to archive the news article, but it has failed on me for over an hour now. Can someone else try.

Update: Checked Greta’s Facebook while walking to my car. She has a post on the pipeline and she’s been flooded with comments and shares.
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Here you go!
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The Next Standing Rock Is Everywhere | The New Republic

archived 7 Oct 2019 22:56:28 UTC
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And here's Greta Thunberg's post on the pipeline:
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www.facebook.com

Greta Thunberg

Rapid City. Protesting against the Keystone XL Pipeline! #climatejustice #waterislife
www.facebook.com www.facebook.com
(https://archive.li/JQ3Qx)

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Yotsubaaa said:
Here you go!
archive.li

The Next Standing Rock Is Everywhere | The New Republic

archived 7 Oct 2019 22:56:28 UTC
archive.li archive.li

And here's Greta Thunberg's post on the pipeline:
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www.facebook.com

Greta Thunberg

Rapid City. Protesting against the Keystone XL Pipeline! #climatejustice #waterislife
www.facebook.com www.facebook.com
(https://archive.li/JQ3Qx)

EDIT: included those photos
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Thank you!

And they are actually making “Protect me from man camps” sign. I really hope someone debunks this nonsense soon. Man camps are not a major factor in native women and girls dying and/or disappearing.

I bet the other area tribes are annoyed at this message. The activist Sioux members were able to get many of their own tribal members to not work for the energy companies (intimidation) but the other tribes allowed development and took the jobs.

Then again, the activists Sioux members did say some pretty horrible things and were doxxing them, and following the school buses, etc, so implying the men from other tribes are kidnappers, rapists, and murderers probably doesn’t phase them anymore.

I’m sure having a new truck, new house, etc probably helps too.
 
Saw this today, thought it was mildly interesting: https://archive.li/FQm0h
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Who do you think did it?

A) An angry exceptional right-winger, doing his side no favours with his tard rage.
B) An exceptional climate alarmist/ shill trying to smear people who don't like Greta
 
Your Local Neko Girl GF said:
Saw this today, thought it was mildly interesting: https://archive.li/FQm0h
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Who do you think did it?

A) An angry exceptional right-winger, doing his side no favours with his tard rage.
B) An exceptional climate alarmist/ shill trying to smear people who don't like Greta
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Havent even considered option b but that sounds very likely. I bet the genetic failure and its handlers would do anything to keep this creature in the headlines.
 
Your Local Neko Girl GF said:
Saw this today, thought it was mildly interesting: https://archive.li/FQm0h
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Who do you think did it?

A) An angry exceptional right-winger, doing his side no favours with his tard rage.
B) An exceptional climate alarmist/ shill trying to smear people who don't like Greta
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Hmm. Now that you've mentioned that idea, I did notice yesterday when I archived Greta's facebook post that the "Most Relevant" comment on it at the time was this:
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I didn't think to archive it any further at the time, and I cannot seem to find it as a comment on her Facebook post now. 🤔
 
Greta received a native name at Standing Rock today. It translates to Woman Who Came From The Heavens.

The news article says the public could attend but that is incorrect. They restricted who could attend.

www.kxnet.com

Woman Who Came From the Heavens visits Standing Rock

Today activists Greta Thunberg and Tokata Iron Eyes were the featured guests of the Standing Rock High School. The Standing Rock Sioux Tribe made headlines over a stand-off surrounding the building…
www.kxnet.com www.kxnet.com
 
Spicy Tacos said:
Greta received a native name at Standing Rock today. It translates to Woman Who Came From The Heavens.

The news article says the public could attend but that is incorrect. They restricted who could attend.

www.kxnet.com

Woman Who Came From the Heavens visits Standing Rock

Today activists Greta Thunberg and Tokata Iron Eyes were the featured guests of the Standing Rock High School. The Standing Rock Sioux Tribe made headlines over a stand-off surrounding the building…
www.kxnet.com www.kxnet.com
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she's already got FAS, now that's she's a native american she's one step closer to alcoholism
 
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