Science Greta Thunberg Megathread - Dax Herrera says he wouldn't have a day ago (I somewhat doubt that)

Why is Greta Thunberg so triggering? How can a 16-year-old girl in plaits, who has dedicated herself to the not-exactly sinister, authoritarian plot of trying to save the planet from extinction, inspire such incandescent rage?

Last week, she tweeted that she had arrived into New York after her two week transatlantic voyage: “Finally here. Thank you everyone who came to see me off in Plymouth, and everyone who welcomed me in New York! Now I’m going to rest for a few days, and on Friday I’m going to participate in the strike outside the UN”, before promptly giving a press conference in English. Yes, her second language.

Her remarks were immediately greeted with a barrage of jibes about virtue signalling, and snide remarks about the three crew members who will have to fly out to take the yacht home.

This shouldn’t need to be spelled out, but as some people don’t seem to have grasped it yet, we’ll give it a lash: Thunberg’s trip was an act of protest, not a sacred commandment or an instruction manual for the rest of us. Like all acts of protest, it was designed to be symbolic and provocative. For those who missed the point – and oh, how they missed the point – she retweeted someone else’s “friendly reminder” that: “You don’t need to spend two weeks on a boat to do your part to avert our climate emergency. You just need to do everything you can, with everyone you can, to change everything you can.”

Part of the reason she inspires such rage, of course, is blindingly obvious. Climate change is terrifying. The Amazon is burning. So too is the Savannah. Parts of the Arctic are on fire. Sea levels are rising. There are more vicious storms and wildfires and droughts and floods. Denial is easier than confronting the terrifying truth.

Then there’s the fact that we don’t like being made to feel bad about our life choices. That’s human nature. It’s why we sneer at vegans. It’s why we’re suspicious of sober people at parties. And if anything is likely to make you feel bad about your life choices -- as you jet back home after your third Ryanair European minibreak this season – it’ll be the sight of small-boned child subjecting herself to a fortnight being tossed about on the Atlantic, with only a bucket bearing a “Poo Only Please” sign by way of luxury, in order to make a point about climate change.

But that’s not virtue signalling, which anyone can indulge in. As Meghan Markle, Prince Harry, and their-four-private-jets-in-11-days found recently, virtue practising is a lot harder.

Even for someone who spends a lot of time on Twitter, some of the criticism levelled at Thunberg is astonishing. It is, simultaneously, the most vicious and the most fatuous kind of playground bullying. The Australian conservative climate change denier Andrew Bolt called her “deeply disturbed” and “freakishly influential” (the use of “freakish”, we can assume, was not incidental.) The former UKIP funder, Arron Banks, tweeted “Freaking yacht accidents do happen in August” (as above.) Brendan O’Neill of Spiked called her a “millenarian weirdo” (nope, still not incidental) in a piece that referred nastily to her “monotone voice” and “the look of apocalyptic dread in her eyes”.

But who’s the real freak – the activist whose determination has single-handedly started a powerful global movement for change, or the middle-aged man taunting a child with Asperger syndrome from behind the safety of their computer screens?

And that, of course, is the real reason why Greta Thunberg is so triggering. They can’t admit it even to themselves, so they ridicule her instead. But the truth is that they’re afraid of her. The poor dears are terrified of her as an individual, and of what she stands for – youth, determination, change.

She is part of a generation who won’t be cowed. She isn’t about to be shamed into submission by trolls. That’s not actually a look of apocalyptic dread in her eyes. It’s a look that says “you’re not relevant”.

The reason they taunt her with childish insults is because that’s all they’ve got. They’re out of ideas. They can’t dismantle her arguments, because she has science – and David Attenborough – on her side. They can’t win the debate with the persuasive force of their arguments, because these bargain bin cranks trade in jaded cynicism, not youthful passion. They can harangue her with snide tweets and hot take blogposts, but they won’t get a reaction because, frankly, she has bigger worries on her mind.

That’s not to say that we should accept everything Thunberg says without question. She is an idealist who is young enough to see the world in black and white. We need voices like hers. We should listen to what she has to say, without tuning the more moderate voices of dissent out.

Why is Greta Thunberg so triggering? Because of what she represents. In an age when democracy is under assault, she hints at the emergency of new kind of power, a convergence of youth, popular protest and irrefutable science. And for her loudest detractors, she also represents something else: the sight of their impending obsolescence hurtling towards them.

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Found this thought-provoking indeed.

 

[moocow]

Trump pushing nuclear hard, and bringing it to light as a topic of national discussion would be a godsend.

Especially if he pronounces it "nucular" ... that drives the libtards absolutely bonkers.

 

[Webby's Boyfriend]

I thought this creature was supposed to be sympathetic but she just looks like a trainwreck and looks strangely young for a 16 year old she actually looks like a fucking 12 year old. Does she have more disorders that we aren't privy to?

People with serious developemental deficits like autism (which she PROUDLY admits to have) or fetal alcohol syndrome (which many critics assume she has, for whatever reason) often look much younger than they are.

Except Chris-Chan though, to me he looks more like someone in his 40s, and may even look like 50 without the tomgirl stuff, and even the classic 2000s web Chris looked middle aged and neither did the Manchester High Chris look like a usual teen.

 

[Alec Benson Leary]

Especially if he pronounces it "nucular" ... that drives the libtards absolutely bonkers.

An odd complaint. Anybody who can pronounce "nuclear" correctly seems depressingly few and far between no matter what party they like.

 

[AnOminous]

I believe there is a lot of truth to the mistreatment of the Navajo on their land because of uranium mining. But that's not the crux of the media's deception.

Nuclear power is far from unique in abusing natives. The oil industry has been much worse. So has coal. So has every form of mining that kicks some group of natives off their land to get to what's under it, or every form of waste disposal (and this is all of them) that ends up dumping shit on the land of people without the political power to fight back with some NIMBY movement.

If they're working this hard on making her the new Jeanne d'Arc, who will they set up to be her Gilles de Rais to support her until he (allegedly) snaps once she's no longer relevant?

She has more of the attitude of a Carrie Nation, a bitter scold on a quasi-religious campaign.

 

[Manwithn0n0men]

but Greta does not.. and that's why she's a fraud.. even though her home country gets around 30% of it's energy from nuclear and the rest from hydro.. and nuclear is the only one of those two that can be easily scaled up.. unless they can find more valleys to drown with dams..

Because she is being paid by industries that dont benefit from nuclear

 

[Alec Benson Leary]

Nuclear power is far from unique in abusing natives. The oil industry has been much worse. So has coal. So has every form of mining that kicks some group of natives off their land to get to what's under it, or every form of waste disposal (and this is all of them) that ends up dumping shit on the land of people without the political power to fight back with some NIMBY movement.

Oh, of course. But that only serves my point - every source of power has historical blood on its hands. So let's stick with the most polluting one that will supposedly sink the rich islands we're buying beachfront property on. Somehow that makes sense to the progressive mind

 

[heathercho]

There is something really weird about this girl. Where the fuck did she come from and why should anyone care? This whole thing is starting to just scream of "Failed child actor being used by politicians." What is up with the horrible faces also? I thought this creature was supposed to be sympathetic but she just looks like a trainwreck and looks strangely young for a 16 year old she actually looks like a fucking 12 year old. Does she have more disorders that we aren't privy to? Now they are giving her these bullshit names like "Woman who came from the heavens" really? This entire thing just screams STAGED.

I've said it before in this and the family thread, but she's a descendent of Svante Arrhenius.
Arrhenius is the "Grandfather of climate change", a huge big deal and nobel prize winner. Her father is named after him.

They play coy and pretend that they didn't know anything about him which lol...ok.
It's no coincidence a wild Greta appears and a ghostly Svante spectre looms in the background.

 

[VHD2012]

I've said it before in this and the family thread, but she's a descendent of Svante Arrhenius.
Arrhenius is the "Grandfather of climate change", a huge big deal and nobel prize winner. Her father is named after him.

They play coy and pretend that they didn't know anything about him which lol...ok.
It's no coincidence a wild Greta appears and a ghostly Svante spectre looms in the background.

This whole charade became a whole lot sicker now that I know its a totally manufactured drama. Its also coming from this sick retard family pushing their equally sick ideas on us about what we should do and eat when its obvious that their prescription created the monstrous nutrient deficient retard creature called greta.

 

[TowinKarz]

Oh, of course. But that only serves my point - every source of power has historical blood on its hands. So let's stick with the most polluting one that will supposedly sink the rich islands we're buying beachfront property on. Somehow that makes sense to the progressive mind

The Progressive left is quasi-religious at this point. They don't think through these things on a logical level and if they do, they fall back on their faith in the ability to bend history, past an future, through purity of motive.

They honestly believe that this 21st Century Joan of Arc has the ability to make Gaia pull back the tides if we listen to her.... but if we reject her and embrace low-carbon nuclear the false Cult of the Atom, they will rise faster to punish our heresy!

 

[AltisticRight]

Meanwhile 90 miles away from the most nuked site on Earth...

Ew, a mac.

Fukushima, which was an act of God nobody could've predicted.

Fukushima, because being too lazy to replace old infrastructure helps.
Fukushima was incompetence too.

 

[Iron Hamster]

This guy is dry so don't try to listen to this while driving.

 

[Fliddaroonie]

So, little miss spergtastic missed out on the Nobel Peace Prize.I wonder what sort of wailing and gnashing of teeth will be going on in the Thunberg household this morning?

I would imagine the only reason a lot of the people I know who're fan boys of her are quiet is because it's a legit, actual, full-on African peeeeoooooooceeeeeeee who's won it

 

[thismanlies]

So, little miss spergtastic missed out on the Nobel Peace Prize.I wonder what sort of wailing and gnashing of teeth will be going on in the Thunberg household this morning?

I would imagine the only reason a lot of the people I know who're fan boys of her are quiet is because it's a legit, actual, full-on African peeeeoooooooceeeeeeee who's won it

I wonder who she lost it to.

*checks article*

She lost it to someone who accomplished something. Well I’ll be dammed.

 

[Fliddaroonie]

I wonder who she lost it to.

*checks article*

She lost it to someone who accomplished something. Well I’ll be dammed.

Yup. Abiy Ahmed not only managed to help bring peace between Ethiopia and Eritrea, but he's also the youngest ever President of an African Nation.

Thunberg is an autistic, mentally unstable little shit who bunks of school. Personally, I'm having a lot of fun asking people REEEEing over this why they think a white girl from an affluent family in a first world nation should get this award over a man who lives in a dump but has managed to a tremendously hard, dangerous job. The milk has been derrishus

 

[Silence of the Troons]

Lol, apparently Swedish bookmakers had Greta pinned as the person the most likely to win the Nobel Prize https://mitti.se/nyheter/thunberg-storfavorit-fredspris/?omrade=kungsholmen

Greta Thunberg big favorite for the Nobel Peace Prize

Greta Thunberg from Kungsholmen is a big favorite at the Nobel Peace Prize.
At least if you are to believe the gaming companies, TT reports.

In March it was clear that Greta Thunberg was nominated Nobel Peace Prize. Now she is a big favorite to win.

According to TT, the young Swede has the lowest odds with the gaming companies.

However, there is a trend to give the Peace Prize to individuals every two years, to an organization every two years. If the trend is followed it will be an organization this year.

"It's about time"
In that case, it could be the global youth movement Fridays for future, founded by Greta Thunberg when she decided to strike for the climate every Friday.

- The one I think should receive the Nobel Peace Prize is the global non-violence movement Fridays for future. It is about time that the climate issue's connection to sustainable peace and security is again noticed, ”says Agnes Hellström, chair of the Swedish Peace and Arbitration Association, to TT.

If Greta Thunberg is awarded the Nobel Peace Prize, the person who has invested money with Unibet gets 2, 25 times the stake.

Others on Unibet's odds list include New Zealand's Prime Minister Jacinda Ardern with 6 times the money and Pope Francis in Rome who gives 11 times the money, writes Betting.se.

The Peace Prize will be announced on Friday, October 11. It will then be distributed in Oslo on December 10.

 

[Matthew216]

It appears that the left is eating their own again.

I rather like this one.

https://www.newshub.co.nz/home/ente...emy-clarkson-unleashes-on-greta-thunberg.html

 

[Ex Cummunicated Sasser HD]

Can somebody please link me to the Greta chess piece pic?

edit: can't find it on here...

 

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The Chosen One has been endorsed by the Catholic Church.

VATICAN CITY (ChurchMilitant.com) - On the second day of the Amazon synod, the synod fathers favorably mentioned Swedish climate change alarmist Greta Thunberg and the climate strike initiative.
Discussing the Instrumentum Laboris (working document) for the synod and considering the 2018 Synod on Youth, the synod fathers talked about the importance of young proponents for an "integral ecology," according to the Vatican synod website.

Bishop Joseph Strickland of the diocese of Tyler, Texas, spoke to Church Militant, describing the Synod Father's recent discussions as "gobbledygook" and "crazy."

"It is like a bad novel that you wouldn't think would make the press," he said.

The discussion for an "integral ecology" led to a prompt and favorable mention by synod fathers of Greta Thunberg, the 16-year-old Swedish climate-change activist who has become a household name among progressives and liberals.

Thunberg recently dominated headlines for her speech Sept. 23 to the United Nations' Climate Action Summit in New York City.

"You have stolen my dreams and my childhood with your empty words. And yet I'm one of the lucky ones," said an angry and teary-eyed Thunberg.

"People are suffering. People are dying. Entire ecosystems are collapsing. We are in the beginning of a mass extinction, and all you can talk about is money and fairy tales of eternal economic growth," she continued, ending with an expression of indignation: "How dare you!"

The synod fathers then spoke of the "option for young people," the necessity of dialoguing with the youth on matters pertaining to the protection of creation and the need to increase the involvement of youth who can inspire the Church to be prophetic in this field.

Young people want to make a better world because they represent "a social doctrine on the move," according to the synod website, which continues:

More than many others, young people today feel the need to establish a new relationship with Creation, a relationship that is not exploitative, but attentive to the suffering of the planet. For this reason, the environmental theme, which is also ecumenical and interreligious, should be seen by the Church as a positive challenge. It is an invitation to dialogue with young people, to help them in their discernment. In this way, their commitment to protecting Creation is not only a "green and fashionable" slogan, but really becomes a question of life and death, for humanity and for the planet.

The synod fathers also discussed protecting the water table (the upper surface of the zone of saturation), fossil fuels and climate change, indigenous rites and the question of viri probati (married men becoming priests).

One synod father offered the possibility of the Church incorporating into the liturgy elements of indigenous culture not connected to superstition, which led to a discussion of such inculturation already existing in the celebration of some sacraments like baptism, matrimony and priestly ordination.

It was proposed that an ad experimentum Amazonian Rite could be established in accord with liturgical and pastoral theological discernment: "At the base of these reflections in the Synod Hall, was the point that just as there exists an environmental ecosystem, there also exists an ecclesial ecosystem."

The synod fathers also began to discuss the question of married men becoming priests.

The much-discussed Instrumentum Laboris suggests the possibility of married men becoming priests to combat the priest shortage and to ensure the sacraments are offered frequently in remote areas.

According to the synod website: "An intervention highlighted though that this cannot result in a substantial revision of the nature of the priesthood and its relationship with celibacy as envisaged in the Latin Rite of the Church."

Moema Maria Marques de Miranda, a lay Franciscan, was the final speaker at the synod, and was also quick to praise Thunberg.

She said that this is the first generation to face the possibility of the world ending, noting that Pope Francis shares this alarmist view.

Since it is only in recent decades that the interconnectedness of the world has been recognized, according to Miranda, the world should learn from indigenous people how to live with creation in harmony.

She went on to say that those like Pope Francis and Thunberg show where things are at this moment in history.

https://archive.is/2sAs2

 

[Syaoran Li]

Greta received a native name at Standing Rock today. It translates to Woman Who Came From The Heavens.

The news article says the public could attend but that is incorrect. They restricted who could attend.

Woman Who Came From the Heavens visits Standing Rock

Today activists Greta Thunberg and Tokata Iron Eyes were the featured guests of the Standing Rock High School. The Standing Rock Sioux Tribe made headlines over a stand-off surrounding the building…

www.kxnet.com

Ugh, now the Left's getting the indigenous people they fetishize so much to make Greta a Native. This has to be leftist Astroturfing at its most blatant and insulting. How much did Greta's handlers pay the tribal leaders at Standing Rock?

Shit like this is why I'm going to be partying for Columbus Day this year with a little get together. It's mostly going to be me and two of my friends who have the day off going out in the woods to get hammered and listen to classic rock and metal, but still.

I've had enough of leftists fetishizing Natives as "poor oppressed indigenous POC's uwu" and demonizing Whites as "evil white supremacist colonial settler imperialists"

It's all just Victorian-era "Noble Savage" nonsense repackaged to appeal to woke Millennial college punks and I'm tired of it all.

I just want a break from all this nonsense.

The Chosen One has been endorsed by the Catholic Church.

https://archive.li/2sAs2

Weird. Usually it's the Protestants who would famously do dumb shit like this, but the heyday of the fundamentalists are a fading memory nowadays.

The new fundamentalist movement that's constantly spouting crazy bullshit and trying to ban everything that disagrees with them is now a weird form of communism masquerading as environmentalism and "social justice"

 

[Coleslaw]

I believe there is a lot of truth to the mistreatment of the Navajo on their land because of uranium mining. But that's not the crux of the media's deception. "Some injustices happened around uranium mining = all nuclear power is now bad". But how many medical advances are now taken for granted that can clearly be traced back to truly evil human experimentation by the nazis? If there's a bolt in your leg to fix what would be a life-altering hobble that prevented you from walking, are you evil because that bolt evolved from nazi medical science? What if doctors only knew how to spot your failing organ before it killed you because their medical school training learned something from nazi science? Are you evil because you just didn't die like a good ally?

I still don't understand this anti-intellectual zealotry against nuclear power. Solar isn't nearly developed enough yet. Woke people already hate wind for other stupid reasons. Do they want us to keep relying on coal and oil, so they can keep scoring points for crying about it? I guess coal and oil aren't that big a threat then are they? If it were really going to kill us all in 12 years then you would be trying any option you had to get away from it instead of trying to snatch fame from the jaws of the beast, wouldn't you?

You could've just used discovering Asperger's syndrome instead of that hypothetical.