Google Stadia General Discussion - Like any other gaming platform, but worse.

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69ing Ur Mom said:
Once they figure out a way to get rid of hundreds of thousands of Stadia controllers, it will be shut down at the end of the following quarter. Probably in 2023 or 2024 if they don't decide to just dump the hardware into a landfill.
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I've kept an eye out for any discounts on Stadia controllers, and they just never happen. Stadia itself never requires you to use their controllers, yet still charge $70 for their own, while you can just get an Xbox Series X controller for around $50-60. With how analog sticks just fall apart all the time now, I figured at some point I could pick up a bunch on a fire sale and just use them with Steam, but, uh, here we are.

I'm glad Stadia's such a colossal flop. Every single aspect about it is dismal. And I'm not exaggerating, either, I mean every single aspect. The interface is completely lifeless. The branding is limited to an unremarkable logo and an orange -> magenta gradient. Even the front page of the website, at a glance, looks indistinguishable from so many other websites about so many different things out there. The game launcher is just the game's banner with a play button in the middle. This platform was designed by and for people who think the Alegria art style looks good.

But, I'm just thankful that it flopped so hard, it's practically a punchline. They even had every single advantage in the world to make Stadia a hit, with the entire pandemic happening within a year of its launch, and just how difficult its been to obtain GPUs, PS5s, and XSXs. If they had gone the Epic Games route and started giving away slews of games for free, I could see it actually gaining some traction, but I guess they just didn't care enough to do that. What a bunch of idiots.
 
Pissmaster said:
But, I'm just thankful that it flopped so hard, it's practically a punchline. They even had every single advantage in the world to make Stadia a hit, with the entire pandemic happening within a year of its launch, and just how difficult its been to obtain GPUs, PS5s, and XSXs. If they had gone the Epic Games route and started giving away slews of games for free, I could see it actually gaining some traction, but I guess they just didn't care enough to do that. What a bunch of idiots.
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wouldn't really have fixed the infrastructure not being there, which was always the biggest issue. either from the ISP or from your local wifi ("what do you mean I need to lay a cable?!"). it would also limit what type of game people could play, heck stuff like figthans already shit themselves more often than not, and that's a game you run locally with just one dude versus another.

Pissmaster said:
I've kept an eye out for any discounts on Stadia controllers, and they just never happen. Stadia itself never requires you to use their controllers, yet still charge $70 for their own, while you can just get an Xbox Series X controller for around $50-60. With how analog sticks just fall apart all the time now, I figured at some point I could pick up a bunch on a fire sale and just use them with Steam, but, uh, here we are.
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drifting is a bit of meme, look how many people actually own consoles and pcs, then look at the amount of people complaining about it. there will be shit batches of course, but most of the time it's simple wear & tear and people treating their hardware like a tard.

in the end why buy another controller when the actual microswitch is a few cents (and most of time just needs some cleaning)? even then all you need is a soldering iron and you're good to go again (will also help you fix shit in the long run, like having to buy a new mouse and get used to it...).
 
ZMOT said:
drifting is a bit of meme, look how many people actually own consoles and pcs, then look at the amount of people complaining about it. there will be shit batches of course, but most of the time it's simple wear & tear and people treating their hardware like a tard.

in the end why buy another controller when the actual microswitch is a few cents (and most of time just needs some cleaning)? even then all you need is a soldering iron and you're good to go again (will also help you fix shit in the long run, like having to buy a new mouse and get used to it...).
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If it were that easy to replace joysticks in modern controllers, I'd gladly just do that, but it's a considerably tricky task. I'd rather just buy a bunch of controllers clearanced out at like $20 a pop. Plus, my Switch's joycons, pro controller, and a couple of those cheap PowerA controllers have nasty drift now. I've had enough drift personally to have been fed up by it.

Speaking of controller problems, another one I've had a lot of that never gets talked about is how some buttons, just, out of the blue, take extra force to actuate. Happened with two of my older Xbox One controllers, both on the D-pad (one on down, the other on up), and also my New 3DS XL's B button. Those effectively render those all useless, which is especially damning for the 3DS, as you can't just easily buy a replacement button board for that particular model. Or at least you couldn't a year ago when I was looking for one. So, I figured I'd just keep an eye out for any with water damage or broken screens to buy and harvest one from.

Controllers, man, they literally don't make 'em like they used to.
 
The Stadia is the most arrogant game console ever made. Google is possibly one of the largest corporations to ever produce a game console but relied on their clout and nothing to entice the consumer. Even the Atari Jaguar or 3DO had a better gameplan and were no where near the level of capital of Google.
 
Pissmaster said:
If it were that easy to replace joysticks in modern controllers, I'd gladly just do that, but it's a considerably tricky task. I'd rather just buy a bunch of controllers clearanced out at like $20 a pop. Plus, my Switch's joycons, pro controller, and a couple of those cheap PowerA controllers have nasty drift now. I've had enough drift personally to have been fed up by it.

Speaking of controller problems, another one I've had a lot of that never gets talked about is how some buttons, just, out of the blue, take extra force to actuate. Happened with two of my older Xbox One controllers, both on the D-pad (one on down, the other on up), and also my New 3DS XL's B button. Those effectively render those all useless, which is especially damning for the 3DS, as you can't just easily buy a replacement button board for that particular model. Or at least you couldn't a year ago when I was looking for one. So, I figured I'd just keep an eye out for any with water damage or broken screens to buy and harvest one from.

Controllers, man, they literally don't make 'em like they used to.
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it's not really that tricky if you know what you're doing, and these days there are plenty of videos and guides around. personally I rather spend 20-30 minutes fixing it for good than have to switch controllers or have a bunch of "broken" ones laying around (even with drift they're still too valuable to just throw away), and selling them on ebay and sending them off would take the same time as fixing it (and would probably more annoying too)

as for drift, never been an issue on my ds3, nor on my two ds4s, and I was/are using them daily. neither have anyone of the people I know (who are mostly sonyponies tho) complained about it.
 
I checked the Stadia subreddit just now to see if there's any salt or cope going on, and the very first post I see is just the most pitiful thing:
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If I wrote this all out as a soyjak meme, it'd come off as trite, yet there it is for real.

Bonus screenshot: Madden '22 matchmaking on Stadia is turning up zero other players online:
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An update on the 3DO-ification of Stadia:
At the 'Google for Games Developer Summit' the company announced that it's going to sell the underlying tech as a Google Cloud service called... 'Immersive Stream for Games'. The keynote showed a presentation of Batman: Arkham Knight running on AT&T mobile devices, showing that there's no longer any Stadia or even Google branding. Google obviously has the scale that this could be an attractive proposition for some companies: when the reports started flying around about this pivot, Bungie and Capcom were rumoured as being interested in using the tech for their own purposes.
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More info on Stadia's failure, for those who missed it:
Google's own target was 1 million subscribers by the end of 2020: a target it missed by around 25%, with one insider saying "retention was a real problem".
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One more sobering fact for those Google soytards:
A Business Insider report from earlier this year cited current and former employees estimating that "about 20% of the focus was on the consumer platform" and the rest is selling the tech and "proof-of-concept work for Google Stream." Exclusive titles for Stadia are now "out of the question."
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:story::story::story::story::story::story:
Sweet cleansing hell-fire, what a fucking shitshow.
 
Amazon have been shilling their own stadia clone Luna lately. Stadia failed but for some reason Jeff Bezo's here thought it was a good idea to introduce another "Cloud Gaming" thing after it's beta? Wondering how that's going along. Also, Luna doesn't work on Linux even though it's literally a video feed going through a web cilent.
 
Pissmaster said:
I checked the Stadia subreddit just now to see if there's any salt or cope going on, and the very first post I see is just the most pitiful thing:
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If I wrote this all out as a soyjak meme, it'd come off as trite, yet there it is for real.

Bonus screenshot: Madden '22 matchmaking on Stadia is turning up zero other players online:
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That gift card is pretty cute. Of course, I'm a sucker for any goofy homemade gifts. Hope that guy made his wife a gift card for whatever she is into.
 
Turd Cow said:
Amazon have been shilling their own stadia clone Luna lately. Stadia failed but for some reason Jeff Bezo's here thought it was a good idea to introduce another "Cloud Gaming" thing after it's beta? Wondering how that's going along. Also, Luna doesn't work on Linux even though it's literally a video feed going through a web cilent.
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Because it's an interesting idea on its own right, and with Amazon's vast cloud resources and shit, it could have other applications for them. It probably benefits them to develop their own variation, and there's been (if I remember) some success with... like an Nvidia platform or something? that offered a similar service. Bezos could well fuck it up, or he could learn from their mistakes and spin it off into something profitable-enough amongst a casual crowd if he sets the right price-points and ties it to the Prime services.

The idea, in and of itself, of streaming games being run on different hardware isn't the worst thing in and of itself. Google selected some of the worst possible games you could imagine to do this with, though, like Samurai Showdown - a game where frame-perfect inputs and reads is really, really fucking important and which the whole platform obviously couldn't handle. But then you've got also got their godawful pricing and purchasing system, and then you've got the horrendous marketing campaigns, and then you've got them trying to buy up exclusives... Stadia could have been an easy win that at the very least paid for the development of the tech, but they fucked it up every step of the way.

If memory serves, heads rolled for the massive failure that it was, which leads me to think a bunch of idiot execs kept promising shit that could never be delivered as the developers just kept their heads down and nodded along with the idea that destiny would play fucking great on a 10-frame delay if and only if you had access to stonking internet.
 
Rich Evans Ayypologist said:
Because it's an interesting idea on its own right, and with Amazon's vast cloud resources and shit, it could have other applications for them. It probably benefits them to develop their own variation, and there's been (if I remember) some success with... like an Nvidia platform or something? that offered a similar service. Bezos could well fuck it up, or he could learn from their mistakes and spin it off into something profitable-enough amongst a casual crowd if he sets the right price-points and ties it to the Prime services.

The idea, in and of itself, of streaming games being run on different hardware isn't the worst thing in and of itself. Google selected some of the worst possible games you could imagine to do this with, though, like Samurai Showdown - a game where frame-perfect inputs and reads is really, really fucking important and which the whole platform obviously couldn't handle. But then you've got also got their godawful pricing and purchasing system, and then you've got the horrendous marketing campaigns, and then you've got them trying to buy up exclusives... Stadia could have been an easy win that at the very least paid for the development of the tech, but they fucked it up every step of the way.

If memory serves, heads rolled for the massive failure that it was, which leads me to think a bunch of idiot execs kept promising shit that could never be delivered as the developers just kept their heads down and nodded along with the idea that destiny would play fucking great on a 10-frame delay if and only if you had access to stonking internet.
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Game streaming is a good idea in concept, but if what's happened to physical media in general is a sign, adopting any of these companies plans will have us end up in a world where you can't even download single player games anymore. Just be glad none of these projects have been very successful yet.
 
Rich Evans Ayypologist said:
The idea, in and of itself, of streaming games being run on different hardware isn't the worst thing in and of itself.
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Yes it is. Even games as service at least has you left with an anniversary edition with all the features some years down the line.
It's literal the zenith of "you will own nothing and be happy".
 
Toolbox said:
Game streaming is a good idea in concept, but if what's happened to physical media in general is a sign, adopting any of these companies plans will have us end up in a world where you can't even download single player games anymore. Just be glad none of these projects have been very successful yet.
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i mean there is geforce now. the benefit with that is it's at least games you own on something like steam.
sidenote, its unlikely companies wont allow people to download games onto their pc period solely because of cloud streaming. this is a rather niche market, probably for people who want to get into gaming that isnt just mobile games or lightweight 2d games, but dont have the hardware to actually play the latest games. as such, this acts as an intermediary for them.
 
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