General Wrestling Discussion

[Rick The Stick]

I have a ton of respect for Mick, as much as one stranger can respect another anyway, and I'll never intentionally diminish his contributions to the business and the toll it took on his body. That said, I got some thunks.

I've been on a split kick of going through the Funker's career, ECW and Total Nonstop Hogan in rotation. As a result I've been getting a lot of time with Mick and have noticed that the vast majority of his career revolves around the same old theme of earning respect and proving he belongs. It's like the man's entire body of work is just him airing his insecurities over and over and over again to the same fucking result. Everyone once again agrees that Mick is great and he really doesn't need to do the crazy shit he does to prove it, but he does it anyway because gosh darn it that's just who Mick is.
That's it. At least that's how it feels to me when you're consuming literal hours of the man's matches and promos. It just never fucking ends.

And you combine this with his current health and its just fucking sad. Mick spent decades of his life nearly killing himself to prove to himself and the people who already loved him that he belonged in this fake fucking sport. And what did it get him? A broken body and a quickly deteriorating mind, just to STILL be insecure and unsure of his legacy and place in the business? Just brutal.

 

[Hollywood Hulk Hogan]

Thank you for the heads up, can’t think of many things worse than wearing a MAGA hat because it’s the Midwest and a red state and having Mick call me an asshole and get aggressive in front of the kids.

They genuinely adore him and have watched most of his matches (besides Japan), but they also know he loves kids.

Mick is basically experiencing dementia but CTE isn’t real.
Terry Funk being dementia filled for years until he eventually died of it had nothing to do with his hardcore wrestling style.
Dynamite Kid was always an asshole, but he got downright dangerous after enough flying headbutts.

It shocked me to hear Taker say he doesn’t believe in CTE, but have heard other contact sports players say the same.
No I don’t think CTE makes someone build plans to murder their family, but the brain isn’t meant to be hit that hard and that much.

You actually wear a MAGA hat?

But anyone denying CTE is real is a legit moron. Taker, Austin, etc. are all really stupid if they believe that

 

[Caddo Cobgang]

In Taker's case I think it is just part of him wanting to protect the business and part him being a boomer.

Also CTE sort of kills the part of your brain that is responsible for impulse control, and so makes it much more likely that you will lash out violently and not even be aware you are doing it at the time. Mick is a nice guy, but the American political landscape has become so poisoned with rhetoric that dehumanizes people that don't share your views that even a nice guy like Mick might be hiding a lot of subconscious anger under that goofy broken smile.
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I dont think Taker and Austin are morally wrong for not believing in CTE, they obviously aren't medical experts, in Foleys case yeah hes clearly suffering from CTE, and it really does suck because he gave everything to the business and he is going to be suffering from mental problems for the rest of his life so he cant even really enjoy his retirement, its sucks to see, I joke about TDS but its far more serious in Micks case, like I know of Boomers and Gen Xers in my family who fucking hate Trump thanks to the 24 hour news cycle, but for someone who has CTE or any kind of permanent brain damage its probably even worse to process that news cycle

 

[BlueArmedDevil]

its probably even worse to process that news cycle

I'm pretty sure he avoids it like any sane person should. In one documentary you see a wall to wall Christmas themed room in his house that he goes into when life gets to be a little to much for him. His zen holiday mankind cave if you will.

 

[ElHijodeDeficienciaCogni]

I'm pretty sure he avoids it like any sane person should. In one documentary you see a wall to wall Christmas themed room in his house that he goes into when life gets to be a little to much for him. His zen holiday mankind cave if you will.

He was pretty active on twitter a bunch of years back when his mental state was a little more stable, but his responses kept getting more bizarre and he kept getting more worked by political stuff. Right after Musk took over Mick made a post about how overwhelming twitter was becoming for him and so he just left.

 

[Hijo de D. Woodchucks Jr.]

Bro if you can't tell flips apart from the other three you got to fix your eyes.

Gooks usually have ballonheads, when you see them in Japan it is usually because they are zainichi. Jake Lee and W*ING Kanemaru have that old school zainichi face.
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The Japanese left a lot of bastards in China from their occupation, and there had been a pretty big issue with Chinese buying North Korean brides from their impoverished parents during the Kim Jong Il years. China is a massive nation spanning the territory of countless ancient kingdoms and tribal territories. There are like countless other types of chinks out there including Kaifeng Jews who are descendants of diaspora Jewish merchants who settled in Kaifeng, Henan and married into the local families.
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See, this is what I called "prior knowledge." Most Puerto Ricans aren't gonna notice that shit, they see slant eyes = Chinese.

 

[Kulee Baba]

https://youtube.com/watch?v=SaDdhJ9J2Yw

I don't agree with Mick I think McCarthy did nothing wrong, but I appreciate that he actually took the time to explain what he finds problematic with Pmurt. Compare that to Cucktista who goes "Trump is a coward he's got a belly of cottage cheese." I hope this election hasn't effected his friendship with Taker, judging from the video I don't think it has.

I like this clip because the interviewer wanted Bret to shit on Trump and Bret just talks about how much of a fan Trump is of wrestling.

 

[Would]

I hope this election hasn't effected his friendship with Taker, judging from the video I don't think it has.

There isn't a rainbow big enough for this sentence.

 

[ElHijodeDeficienciaCogni]

See, this is what I called "prior knowledge." Most Puerto Ricans aren't gonna notice that shit, they see slant eyes = Chinese.

Both in character and as a shoot it makes sense for Carlos Calon's retarded son to not know the difference between Chinks and Japs. Cultaholic tweeted that WOL had reported that neither Iyo nor Kairi were offended by the comment. I actually went to look for a clip which I couldn't find. What I did find was Mike Sempervivi trying to inject his blacked fetish into a monologue by Bryan Alvarez and I remembered why I hate everyone involved with Dave Meltzer.

Compare that to Cucktista who goes "Trump is a coward he's got a belly of cottage cheese." I hope this election hasn't effected his friendship with Taker, judging from the video I don't think it has.

Taker, Kane, and Trump cut a promo on the subject. It was pretty light hearted so I don't think the deadman is taking it too seriously, but Autista is weird so he probably cares a lot more than normal people do.

Also this election is so fucking retarded. Hogan stumping for Trump at the caucus. Bautista cutting a heel promo straight out of the RA era. Trump with the Brothers of Destruction. This really really really wasn't supposed to be an instruction manual.

 

[COME ON OUT YOU RAPIST]

Mick getting worked into a shoot while Bret stays kayfabe? This really is a strange election year!

 

[Kulee Baba]

There isn't a rainbow big enough for this sentence.

Their Daddy Vince will be able to squash the beefs.

 

[PS1gamenwatch]

By the way this one match from 97

Some things get me about this match, looks like this is after the beatdown of DX on Anvil post Survivor Series but look at this:

-Notice how much offense Neidhart gets. He gets in 70 percent of the blows and Triple H needed Shawn and Chyna to help him win.

-The ending of this is a surreal visual. A month prior we have DX making the Hart Foundation look bad with every step but here they are held at bay and taken down by the trio of Sgt. Slaughter, Ken Shamrock, and Jim "The Anvil" Neidhart.

-This was the go home show for In Your House: D-Generation X, meaning the last visual prior to the show about DX is Sarge holding Trips in a cobra clutch, Shawn stuck in the ankle lock with a lollipop in his mouth and Neidhart handcuffed to the ropes holding Chyna back from saving Hunter and Shawn. So yeah, the World Champion and #2 Heel in the company in Trips are beaten down by 2 middle age men and Ken Shamrock.

This was kinda random, but does anyone got an explanation of this, or an opinion?

 

[The Nothingness]

See, this is what I called "prior knowledge." Most Puerto Ricans aren't gonna notice that shit, they see slant eyes = Chinese.

You know what I finding amusing about lefty wrestling fans getting offended by Carlito's remark? They would jump at his defense if a joke was a made where he was confused at being Mexican, not Puerto Rican.

 

[Kulee Baba]

>See video on "Ringboys" allegations
>Get troon

Do they have to infest every nerdy entertainment I find enjoyment in? Kurt Angle's kayfabe wig looked more authentic.

 

[BlueArmedDevil]

This was kinda random, but does anyone got an explanation of this, or an opinion?

Where was the house show? Local famous talent might have been the issue

 

[ElHijodeDeficienciaCogni]

By the way this one match from 97
https://youtube.com/watch?v=8K-AHCjM8TsSome things get me about this match, looks like this is after the beatdown of DX on Anvil post Survivor Series but look at this:

-Notice how much offense Neidhart gets. He gets in 70 percent of the blows and Triple H needed Shawn and Chyna to help him win.

-The ending of this is a surreal visual. A month prior we have DX making the Hart Foundation look bad with every step but here they are held at bay and taken down by the trio of Sgt. Slaughter, Ken Shamrock, and Jim "The Anvil" Neidhart.

-This was the go home show for In Your House: D-Generation X, meaning the last visual prior to the show about DX is Sarge holding Trips in a cobra clutch, Shawn stuck in the ankle lock with a lollipop in his mouth and Neidhart handcuffed to the ropes holding Chyna back from saving Hunter and Shawn. So yeah, the World Champion and #2 Heel in the company in Trips are beaten down by 2 middle age men and Ken Shamrock.

This was kinda random, but does anyone got an explanation of this, or an opinion?

I am going to be honest with you, I don't remember this match at all. It is especially weird since this was Jim's last televised match before he left for WCW. It would make sense to bury Jim and write him off of TV so as to cool him off before he leaves, but letting him go out strong looking like this as well as Jim getting three consecutive wins in house shows as he walks out the door just feels weird.

Oh shit, Dynamite is on.

Where was the house show? Local famous talent might have been the issue

Not a house show, Raw 236. It is pretty funny that they ended the show with this match, but had Mankind and Austin vs LoD vs Farooq and the Rock as a dark match for this show.

You know what I finding amusing about lefty wrestling fans getting offended by Carlito's remark? They would jump at his defense if a joke was a made where he was confused at being Mexican, not Puerto Rican.

I was salt mining reddit earlier and saw that most of the "Asians" reeeeing about this and getting offended by all the "constant never ending racism towards Asians," had usernames like RomanReignsOTC and BloodlineKumar.

 

[CyrusHowler]

I don’t see how it’s wrong to think bodybuilding aesthetics shouldn’t really weigh into the merits of a wrestler. As long as a wrestler looks like he can kick the average person’s ass their body is fine.

Right but Bret is 99% wrong.
He had a rare W when he said nothing political about Trump and kept it all to wrestling.

And she was helpful with Chelsea Green getting over.

Chelsea Green

I doubt one hick

Most Trump supporters are not hicks. All the welfare hillbilly trash I’ve ever met were democrats because they got free everything.

https://youtube.com/watch?v=SaDdhJ9J2Yw

Cuck Foley has had a major case of TDS for years. Nothing new.

McCarthy did nothing wrong

Ignore the Ann Coulter endorsement, this book is a concise collection of why McCarthy not only did nothing wrong, he wasn’t allowed to finish the job.

 

[Caddo Cobgang]

Right but Bret is 99% wrong.

Bret was right though not all small guys suck, the small guys in the ring unfortunately get grouped in as Smark Darlings when thats not always the case, Bret fucking hates Smarks (and he should), as far as politics goes who the fuck cares, Bret has even less of a reason to give a shit because hes Canadian

 

[BlueArmedDevil]

Oh shit, Dynamite is on.

I see Jericho decided to dress up as a busted biscuit tube for Halloween.

 

[ElHijodeDeficienciaCogni]

He looks even smaller and weaker than before. Like dude, just because you couldn't use your feet doesn't mean you couldn't work the arms.


MJF from the top rope

Right but Bret is 99% wrong.
He had a rare W when he said nothing political about Trump and kept it all to wrestling.

Bret is a grievance collector. If he feels you did him wrong, no matter how slight the offense, he will never let it go and never forgive you. If he thinks you like him and have been on your side he will be nothing but the nicest guy you could imagine.

I see Jericho decided to dress up as a busted biscuit tube for Halloween.

fucking savage
Did you check out that Shelton Benjamin match at the top of the show? He held nothing back on Sammy Gayvara.