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Leaf Wage Slave said:
Honestly, pick your poison of the various Wrestletubers - most of, if not all of them, just repeat what Meltzer or SRS report, just in far less time than Meltzer…
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Except the wrestletubers show extreme bias towards AEW. Wrestletalk is one of the worst culprits of anti-WWE click bait.

I honestly get my Japanese wrestling news from a couple guys who translate into English as a means to practice the language. They're actually really good.

Edit: in regards to Williams leaving Yukes for 2K, the article mentions WWE ghosting him during the interview portion of the application for producer. I can say from personal experience that this is WWE's MO for corporate positions. I was interviewed for a position over the phone and never heard back. Several others via Glassdoor can also affirm they do this shit, and it's infuriating from an applicant standpoint. A simple "thanks, but no thanks" email would be great so I don't waste my time.
 
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I'mma real anime gurl said:
MJF going to the WWE will be a death knell to AEW unless it's a work.
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he was talking about it on the rasslin podcast that came out today. It seemed like a kayfabe interview but MJF is so good with his character you don't know which part is his wrestling persona or actually him. Minus him saying FTR is the best tag team in the world he was 1100% genuine
 
captkrisma said:
Except the wrestletubers show extreme bias towards AEW. Wrestletalk is one of the worst culprits of anti-WWE click bait.

I honestly get my Japanese wrestling news from a couple guys who translate into English as a means to practice the language. They're actually really good.
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Do they have any public social media and you could link them, or is it more that you hit them up privately? Wrassle tubers really do seem like AEW-biased toxic garbage bins, especially the big group ones that clickbait to hell and beyond. Outside of those, who else would you have, even? That one gremlin that just wants to suck Cornette off?
 
EenGevolg said:
Do they have any public social media and you could link them, or is it more that you hit them up privately? Wrassle tubers really do seem like AEW-biased toxic garbage bins, especially the big group ones that clickbait to hell and beyond. Outside of those, who else would you have, even? That one gremlin that just wants to suck Cornette off?
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One of my favorite ones is Shigeo on Twitter: SG_oxxt
He translated a LOT of Hana Kimura stuff when it was breaking and is very accurate in a lot of his translations. Only problem is that he sometimes gets imposter syndrome and beats himself up over the translations. Recently he's mad about other people on twitter wanting to charge for translations.

As for youtubers, it's pretty few and far between for those that are unbiased, so I subscribe to both sides and hear out who sounds less like they're being paid.
 
OJ Simpson said:
Where do you all get your news from? I want to keep up with developments around the wrestling world even if it's from promotions I'm not actively watching. Not necessarily looking for dirt sheets, although I'm not sure how far removed we are from the late 90's/early 00's and if the lines have been blurred between the two since.
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luchablog / cubsfan for my lucha stuff, here for everything else because I generally don't care about everything else
 
Never Scored said:
Wrestling has steered hard into having less fans, but having more content to target specific fans.

WWE bizarrely seemingly tries to appeal to both the kind of person who would dress up and go to a comic con and senior citizens at the same time. Most of their TV viewers are 50+ and are just watching because they have always watched it. So all the young wrestlers come out in elaborate costumes, striking cringey poses, and then occasionally a star from 25 years ago like Goldberg will come out and wreck all their shit to make the seniors watching cum.

AEW tries to appeal to workrate marks and people who miss the Monday Night Wars era. It feels like the first hour of Nitro stretched to a two hour show with ridiculous spot fests thrown in. Think WCW with the top third of the card chopped off updated for a modern audience. They have a few stars from the late 90s and early 2000s peppered throughout the card like Jericho, The Hardys and Sting. The big difference from how WWE uses the older stars is in AEW they are regular members of the roster, whereas in WWE they are untouchable supermen.

MLW is similar in structure to early 90s wrestling with lucha thrown in. I haven't watched it in a couple years though.

NWA exists to appeal to fans of 80s NWA shit.

Impact is kind of its own thing. The thing impact resembles most is TNA from 15 years ago, I guess.

I'm not saying these promotions are 1:1 recreations of those eras, that's just what I think they resemble.

So for example, if your idea of the good old days is early 1990s WWF Superstars, you will probably legit like MLW more than AEW.

If what you miss are giant, larger than life characters with broad appeal who ooze charisma like Hulk Hogan and Steve Austin, you aren't going to find them anywhere, unfortunately. Nobody has stars like that anymore. The anarchy required in the industry to create them no longer exists.
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Dude, this is on the money.

There are two moments from the Monday Night Wars period that stick out in my mind: One Raw and One Nitro.

in 1997, one episode of Nitro emanated from Chicago. Earlier that day, the Chicago Bulls celebrated their championship victory in that same building, and the crowd was jacked. The show opened up with the nWo rolling in a limousine, smoking cigars, and Dennis F'n Rodman at their side. Voodoo Child blared over the system as the nWo walked to the curtain and then once Hogan walkthrough though, he broke out the air guitar as Michael Buffer, the voice of boxing, gave them their introductions. It was unquestionably one of the most amazing and unbelievably cool things I have ever seen in wrestling. So much so that every time I am reminded of it, I think "Wrestling will never be this cool again", but think about it, boxing and the NBA aren't even as cool now as they were back then.

Then in 1998, you had Mike Tyson, the Baddest Man on the Planet, came to the WWF to work an angle for WrestleMania XIV. They bring him out one night, and sure enough, the glass breaks and out comes Stone Cold Steve Austin to get in his face. Now, in a total shoot, Tyson would murder Austin. That was true then, and its true now. But at that point in time, on that show, you believed that Austin could match up to Tyson. It felt real, the energy was off the charts, and it was one of the most amazing things WWF/E ever did.

Stuff like that is what is missing from modern Wrestling and you can't really get back.
 
RumblyTumbly said:
Dude, this is on the money.

There are two moments from the Monday Night Wars period that stick out in my mind: One Raw and One Nitro.

in 1997, one episode of Nitro emanated from Chicago. Earlier that day, the Chicago Bulls celebrated their championship victory in that same building, and the crowd was jacked. The show opened up with the nWo rolling in a limousine, smoking cigars, and Dennis F'n Rodman at their side. Voodoo Child blared over the system as the nWo walked to the curtain and then once Hogan walkthrough though, he broke out the air guitar as Michael Buffer, the voice of boxing, gave them their introductions. It was unquestionably one of the most amazing and unbelievably cool things I have ever seen in wrestling. So much so that every time I am reminded of it, I think "Wrestling will never be this cool again", but think about it, boxing and the NBA aren't even as cool now as they were back then.

Then in 1998, you had Mike Tyson, the Baddest Man on the Planet, came to the WWF to work an angle for WrestleMania XIV. They bring him out one night, and sure enough, the glass breaks and out comes Stone Cold Steve Austin to get in his face. Now, in a total shoot, Tyson would murder Austin. That was true then, and its true now. But at that point in time, on that show, you believed that Austin could match up to Tyson. It felt real, the energy was off the charts, and it was one of the most amazing things WWF/E ever did.

Stuff like that is what is missing from modern Wrestling and you can't really get back.
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yeah, literally nothing will be as big as anything that was big was big back then
like the last episode of MASH, there was a conflux of things (including a lack of options) that led to it perfectly hitting the way it did
the people who made it happen were part but the circumstances were a big part of how it could happen
 
EenGevolg said:
Do they have any public social media and you could link them, or is it more that you hit them up privately? Wrassle tubers really do seem like AEW-biased toxic garbage bins, especially the big group ones that clickbait to hell and beyond. Outside of those, who else would you have, even? That one gremlin that just wants to suck Cornette off?
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The only guy I like is Simon Miller with his Ups and Downs. That’s it.
 
I've actually not watched AEW in months, because Hangman isn't for me. I catch the odd DARK if some of the lower card names I like are on it, but even those names are disappearing quickly for NXT failures from 2019. Khan took an alternative product that reignited my interest in wrestling and seemingly lost control past-pandemic production era.
 
Anchors-Away said:
I've actually not watched AEW in months, because Hangman isn't for me. I catch the odd DARK if some of the lower card names I like are on it, but even those names are disappearing quickly for NXT failures from 2019. Khan took an alternative product that reignited my interest in wrestling and seemingly lost control past-pandemic production era.
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The "Tony Khan's new toy" meme that we throw around is pretty accurate.
 
XYZpdq said:
FUCK YES JEFF JARRETT IS STILL GREAT
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Jeff Jarrett was never even good to begin with
Dang Woodchucks! said:
Did Bret Hart get into shoot fighting and get his shit pushed in, too?
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No but he allegedly had pictures of himself with the wwe title all over his house and apparently a shrine to himself above his bed
lindsayfan said:
and literally complains about the product he's supposed to be calling.
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If I had to commentate AEW I'd be compelled to shit on it too
 
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