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On one hand, I can see why WWE/TKO would be happy to bite on the truckloads of $$ people are throwing at them, but we seem to be reaching a point where all of their shows are going to end up behind some paywall, and in the long run, I don't think that's a good model for wrestling.
I mean, apparently UFC is having record profits with a model like this. But every person I know irl has stopped watching their PPVs due to not being able to afford it, and as someone who didn't really care about UFC other than drinking and watching it at friends houses it's effectively not existed for me for years. That's what's gonna happen to wrestling if they go through with this, more money (at least for a while), less visibility.
 
I mean, apparently UFC is having record profits with a model like this. But every person I know irl has stopped watching their PPVs due to not being able to afford it, and as someone who didn't really care about UFC other than drinking and watching it at friends houses it's effectively not existed for me for years. That's what's gonna happen to wrestling if they go through with this, more money (at least for a while), less visibility.
I suppose it could work if there are enough people that already subscribe to the streaming services, but I can't imagine I'm the only one that has zero intention of following them to whatever streaming service they land on. In the short term, the money may be great for the WWE and UFC, but in the long run?... Are these streaming services even going to be around in 5 or 10 years? And then what for the WWE? Just go back to regular TV or whatever replaces the current streaming model?

EDIT: I think the current streaming model will crash hard within a decade, and it may be bad news for legacy organizations like the WWE when that crash occurs.
 
EDIT: I think the current streaming model will crash hard within a decade, and it may be bad news for legacy organizations like the WWE when that crash occurs.
Absolutely, I think they are just expecting their die-hards to always support them, their social media to draw in casuals and some other new thing like streaming to come in they can monkeybranch to. But it probably won't work, I don't know any modern UFC fighter, will anyone know their top guys in 10 or so years when they have to come crawling back to free or cheaper options?
 
I mean, apparently UFC is having record profits with a model like this. But every person I know irl has stopped watching their PPVs due to not being able to afford it, and as someone who didn't really care about UFC other than drinking and watching it at friends houses it's effectively not existed for me for years. That's what's gonna happen to wrestling if they go through with this, more money (at least for a while), less visibility.

UFC also have middle-eastern/emerging markets money coming in much like WWE does so they'll just keep churning out content.

I don't know how the entire thing is going to be sustainable long term. UFC have a card most Saturday nights and the overall quality of their roster has plummeted as a result. WWE has far too many hours of TV to fill every week and PLEs/house shows out the ass and so many people signed that some of them just sort of disappear amongst the crowd.

It's a boomtime based on growing income rather than a growing audience and the money will stop at some point leaving them with an undersized audience for their oversized product.
 
Absolutely, I think they are just expecting their die-hards to always support them, their social media to draw in casuals and some other new thing like streaming to come in they can monkeybranch to. But it probably won't work, I don't know any modern UFC fighter, will anyone know their top guys in 10 or so years when they have to come crawling back to free or cheaper options?
Also, when I say 10 years, I'm giving the streaming services every benefit of the doubt. I'd be very surprised if they still exist, under their current model, or at all, in 5 years.
 
impressive that 0/9 belts look any good

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Also, when I say 10 years, I'm giving the streaming services every benefit of the doubt. I'd be very surprised if they still exist, under their current model, or at all, in 5 years.
I'm not sure how long the streaming service bubble lasts, either. It seems pretty forced right now by all these companies desperately trying to make it work. I think something like Netflix which is more of an aggregator of content from various sources will be fine, but stuff like HBO Max, Paramount+, Apple TV, Peacock, ESPN, etc. which provide content that is more specific to the parent company's brands, will end up going away or being seriously scaled back.

In the long run, I could see WWE simply moving all of its U.S. content to Netflix (like they already do internationally) and calling it a day or putting the PLEs behind a YouTube membership paywall.
 
I don’t remember this, remind me.
I can't find the video, and there are so many moments of people getting fucked up in AEW, but he might be talking about that one multi-tag match where one of the Dark Order guys gets knocked out from a double splash. Someone landed on his head and he just lays there unconscious until his partner comes in, drags him by the arm to the corner, then gets back out and tags himself in so they can continue their spots. All of that while the referee (probably Rick Knox since it was a Young Bucks match) is just sitting there doing nothing. I remember the video someone made on /pw showing a side by side when Mercedes Martinez gets knocked out from a kick and the ref stops it immediately then they show the AEW clip keeps going for like 2 more minutes, and at the end of it the knocked out Dark Order guy gets back up and stumbles around to do spots because of course the Bucks have to get their shit in.
 
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See things like this is why it's crazy to me that the anti AEW and anti modern wrestling crew focus so hard on ratings as was discussed in this thread yesterday, the stations wrestling is on regardless of company seem pretty damn happy with their ratings, they could so easily just say no we just won't have collision that week, but they want as much AEW as they can get because AEW at least on Wednesday is often number one on all of TV.
 
Yeah I use other shit for big PPVs, like I said earlier in the thread Mainsite.top is who every other streaming site steals streams from. I use baked for shit like GCW cause nobody else cares enough to stream them so I saw that they’re charging for streams again cause I was going on to load up the GCW stream.
they only charge for wwe/aew ppv's tbh

Birmingham is one of the biggest dumps in Britain. They should be thankful that's all she said about it.
it's still up the villains though. but yea Birmingham sucks
 
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See things like this is why it's crazy to me that the anti AEW and anti modern wrestling crew focus so hard on ratings as was discussed in this thread yesterday, the stations wrestling is on regardless of company seem pretty damn happy with their ratings, they could so easily just say no we just won't have collision that week, but they want as much AEW as they can get because AEW at least on Wednesday is often number one on all of TV.
Except they aren't number one and they haven't been in years. WB or whoever owns the Turner networks now is ran by people who just love pissing money and don't know what else to put on TV.
 
they are doing a LONG injury angle with Roman right now, he's about to take a fifth finisher, two of them were while on a stretcher they must have switched plans from him being in Jey's corner, which smells of Dwayne switching plans between the pre show and now.
 
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