General Discussion for Virtual Youtubers / Vtubers / Chuubas - it's okay to be a simp for 2D, just don't thirstpost.

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My personal theory on what happened would be that If you go back a few years, the Way Vshojo handled revenue with their talents was always pretty crazy and it was always kind of a mystery as to how they stayed afloat when they weren't cutting into their talents donation money or anything of the sort supposedly only drawing revenue from in house produced merchandise (like stuff the company produced, not even the stuff the talents produced)

Vshojo had a significant amount of venture capital backing, which I imagine is how they made that work for some years. But trying to dig into it the last round of fundraising the company did was in 2022.

Now in 2025 we have several talents that seem to be departing because of business disagreements and now this with Mouse. If I had to try to pose a plausible guess. probably in the last year or so that venture capital money they had from back in 2022 dried up and someone in the company had to start scraping to try and keep their shit together, and this was probably where stuff like skimming mouse's money and some less desirable dealings with other talents happened leading to their departure.

Investment money dried up, so company had to start cutting into talent revenues which didn't sit well with them as that was not what they signed on for, and in cases like mouse cooking the books to skim off her bottom line to try and cover for that venture capital being gone.
Is Connor actually her BF or is that just kayfabe? I always got the impression that it was kind of fake and played up for the intrigue. If they were really together, there'd be no reason to hide it since Vshojo is all about 'freedom' or whatever (and Nyanners was openly with Aethelstan when she still did stuff).
It's just a rrat until there's actually some evidence of it (there is none other than they are close) so I wouldn't even call it kayfabe because neither of them say they are in a relationship.
 
My personal theory on what happened would be that If you go back a few years, the Way Vshojo handled revenue with their talents was always pretty crazy and it was always kind of a mystery as to how they stayed afloat when they weren't cutting into their talents donation money or anything of the sort supposedly only drawing revenue from in house produced merchandise (like stuff the company produced, not even the stuff the talents produced)

Vshojo had a significant amount of venture capital backing, which I imagine is how they made that work for some years. But trying to dig into it the last round of fundraising the company did was in 2022.

Now in 2025 we have several talents that seem to be departing because of business disagreements and now this with Mouse. If I had to try to pose a plausible guess. probably in the last year or so that venture capital money they had from back in 2022 dried up and someone in the company had to start scraping to try and keep their shit together, and this was probably where stuff like skimming mouse's money and some less desirable dealings with other talents happened leading to their departure.

Investment money dried up, so company had to start cutting into talent revenues which didn't sit well with them as that was not what they signed on for, and in cases like mouse cooking the books to skim off her bottom line to try and cover for that venture capital being gone.

It's just a rrat until there's actually some evidence of it (there is none other than they are close) so I wouldn't even call it kayfabe because neither of them say they are in a relationship.
The timing on this actually hangs together pretty well. The large cracks at VS started showing up right after the small corpo apocalypse was winding down, probably a similar story with VC funding being withdrawn, but VS had the cash flow to creatively account with, that the small corpos didn't have.
 
Geega absolutely knew about the Ironmouse thing and I'm sure Matara did too.
In the video she talks about how she left as a sort of motivation to help mouse make up her mind. She also vagueposts mentioning if other streamers seemed busy or didn't have time to stream that it might have been related, hint hint, wink wink.
She also intimates that she herself hasn't been properly compensated and muses over the idea of tossing a bunch of merch in a truck and driving off.
 
I guess this is who was going to join VShojo next X
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Seems like a good portion of vshojo is egging this on so will they form a new company with black jack and virtual hookers, worm their way into the sad girl company or all get cocky and go independent? Without the help of a big twitch affiliated company I don't see that going well for the pornstar, maybe nyanners can raise capital for a company by pulling her classics out of the Disney vault and singing Pomf.
 
I would like to remind people in this thread that the daughter Ironmouse left to her mother to raise while she LARPed as an anime girl online is already 18 if my math and memory are right
Is there any actual evidence of this stuff? She seems to have pretty thoroughly scrubbed most of her pre-VTuber internet history.

Her "Official" age is 28, but I think that's a false number they threw out to both make her seem younger and throw people off from tracking her actual past.

I've heard there was a video from ~2018 where she talks about a past boyfriend and mentions a child. But it seems to have been taken down from pretty much everywhere.

Is Connor actually her BF or is that just kayfabe? I always got the impression that it was kind of fake and played up for the intrigue
It's all Kayfabe. I'm sure they're friends, but that's pretty much it.

It was originally something her and Connors creepy, parasocial fans started. After a couple collabs together, the fans started "shipping" them. They realized this got a lot of fans engagement, so now they constantly play it up.
Also, Connor, who is her boyfriend or whatever, is a useless piece of shit.
Also very true. He's a trust-fund baby who literally did the "I love Anime so much that I'm going to move to Japan and be an English Teacher! And maybe I can branch into Voice Acting!" Weeb fantasy.

Everything about him is fake and obnoxious, but somehow he networked with the right media people and thirst-trapped enough female fans to be successful.
 
Seems like a good portion of vshojo is egging this on so will they form a new company with black jack and virtual hookers, worm their way into the sad girl company or all get cocky and go independent? Without the help of a big twitch affiliated company I don't see that going well for the pornstar, maybe nyanners can raise capital for a company by pulling her classics out of the Disney vault and singing Pomf.
FISHMAN YOU HAVE ONE FUCKING JOB
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Odd thing for a vtuber to announce,
Good for her.

Nimi is one of the biggest independent vtubers and was fauna from hololive before she quit.

I don't watch really Vtubers outside of clips. did she talk about having a boyfriend?
When we get the dates sorted out I'll be sure to invite every one of you posters to our wedding ceremony
 
Vshojo owes her an indisclosed amount of money and they havent donated 500k worth of donothon cash to the IDF (the charity)
They're fucking JOEVER
is VShojo run by The Completionist?

Wow, this is like forgetting to buy ink for your money printer or letting your golden goose starve to death.

Just a reminder that she has simped for Hasan Piker.
She's also friends with that commie Connor.

Eventually Phase will probably implode for one reason or another. Independent seems the way to go. Or cashing in on a corpo followed by fucking off and going indie once you're stable Gawr Gura style
Probably.
Fishman's best move right now is keep your talents happy and fed. Don't fuck it up.

But we'll see.
 
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