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Next Task said:
I suspect she's currently in the small category of people where having her own thread is exactly the sort of thing she wants, so it doesn't get made to spite her.
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Bingo. She wants to be a victim, and needs legitimate evidence of it. A thread would just be something she can point to with the classic "these people are CRAZY, they have a whole THREAD, DEDICATED to tracking my EVERY MOVE! This is INSANE!".
 
Not to mention, we hardly need a dedicated thread because there's so little in gaming journalism worth reading specifically. Even in gaming drama, they're just a hivemind, read one read them all.

Fair or foul, if these people were half as interesting as they thought they were, they wouldn't be a dying sub-industry.
 
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Next Task said:
Keeping her as just another generic journo in the thread also undercuts her self-importance. If she does something outside the decade-old playbook, maybe she'll get too interesting to stop a thread from developing, but right now I think it's funnier for her not to have one.
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She belongs in the insignificant retard pit (this thread) with the other insignificant retards. She doesn't even produce as much milk as Taylor Lorenz. "Games journalists" in general are completely worthless and meaningless.
 
How much traffic does Kotaku even get to survive?

They were a joke even when I first heard of them back in 2006 or 07 when Jeremy Perish of all people were mocking them on his personal website as some "greedy tabloid blog."
 
TATE MOOOOOOOOOOOOOOODE!! said:
How much traffic does Kotaku even get to survive?

They were a joke even when I first heard of them back in 2006 or 07 when Jeremy Perish of all people were mocking them on his personal website as some "greedy tabloid blog."
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It's not about survival - it's about speculation.

Kotaku was bought up dirt cheap from the ruins of Gawker after they basically committed suicide. The parent company is just investing to see if it will ever become a "big thing" (it will not) but it's not a major investment in the media space. They basically bought it as a package deal.

The ride is also almost over - as the parent company is giving up on the investment. It sold Clickhole and Spinter News; It sold Lifehacker, then gutted and sold Jezebel. They said "we aren't selling everything off" then sold Deadspin, the AV Club, and The Onion.

It's just Gizmodo, Kotaku, Jalponik, The Root, The Inventory and Quarts left and I can't imagine that any of those properties are going to "turn the ship around" although more comically I'm not sure who would even want to buy Kotaku considering the brand itself is worth nothing so it might just get shuttered.
 
Tanner Glass said:
The ride is also almost over - as the parent company is giving up on the investment. It sold Clickhole and Spinter News; It sold Lifehacker, then gutted and sold Jezebel. They said "we aren't selling everything off" then sold Deadspin, the AV Club, and The Onion.

It's just Gizmodo, Kotaku, Jalponik, The Root, The Inventory and Quarts left and I can't imagine that any of those properties are going to "turn the ship around" although more comically I'm not sure who would even want to buy Kotaku considering the brand itself is worth nothing so it might just get shuttered.
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I don't know how anyone can look at this outcome and say with a straight face that Gamergate lost. Sure we never got "ethics in games journalism," but personally, I'll settle for its obliteration, which is what has mostly happened. Notably the one somewhat nerdy one that has at least a chance at long-term survival is Jalopnik which somehow managed to avoid being completely taken over by people who hate cars and their drivers.
 
AnOminous said:
I don't know how anyone can look at this outcome and say with a straight face that Gamergate lost.
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people just have ADHD brainrot and expect reality to work like a hollywood montage.
things don't happen overnight, even less with a "decisive victory" where everyone celebrates under fireworks.
 
ZMOT said:
people just have ADHD brainrot and expect reality to work like a hollywood montage.
things don't happen overnight, even less with a "decisive victory" where everyone celebrates under fireworks.
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Very true. It appears to me that gamergate had a massive and highly effective outcome. Once when IGN, Eurogamer, Poly etc etc all had a massive level of control over the industry when you combined them all together, now they are but shadows. Many have fallen, some are still around in some sort of maintenance mode, very little remains of that industry anymore. You ask most gamers where they engage with gaming media and its youtubers, maybe twitch streamers, but hardly any go to those sites anymore.

I will not mention the hollywood montage thing, because my hyper autistic theory of people being programmed by television and film will kick in, but I will say that yes, they see things the way a movie shows things.
 
AnOminous said:
I don't know how anyone can look at this outcome and say with a straight face that Gamergate lost.
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It did score a victory, but only so far as GamerGate was in such a position that dragging down their opponent at all was the victory condition. I'm hesitant to believe it had anywhere near the outcome some say it did, but its ghost might with the redux. That has more to do with how many people are sick of shit being shit and how they have no escape from their humdrum and depressing lives anymore.
 
AnOminous said:
I don't know how anyone can look at this outcome and say with a straight face that Gamergate lost.
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I can. It was a small event blown up into epic proportions with some terrible fallout for (old-school) nerds/geeks/gamers. Gaming, at least mainstream gaming, is not in a great place with microtransactions, shitty practices and broken ass games out the wazoo. Gaming review media is still bad, maybe more so than ever because a lot of independent game reviewers are obviously shills (Cyberpunk 2077 holy shit) that even after being shown up as shills haven't fallen into obscurity, and now (uncool) gamers/nerds/geeks since around that time have become the ultimate "bad guy" patsy in the narrative.

People are sick at how these games have become shit and pandering but we're talking about normalfaggots who buy COD and FIFA year after year and whatever the current it game social media is pushing.

I used to think that gamergate was gamers/nerds/geeks shooting themselves in the foot but in retrospect I honestly think it's TPTB not wanting a repeat of Occupy Wall Street.

(There's a 4chan image that does the rounds that explains it a bit better, I'll try and find it.)
 
Now you got some random whore defending both Alyssa Mercante and Kotaku from SmashJT who's wife has been harassed by Alyssa Mercante and started the EndKotaku hashtag.
 
SiccDicc said:
t did score a victory, but only so far as GamerGate was in such a position that dragging down their opponent at all was the victory condition. I'm hesitant to believe it had anywhere near the outcome some say it did, but its ghost might with the redux. That has more to do with how many people are sick of shit being shit and how they have no escape from their humdrum and depressing lives anymore.
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it would've happened anyway, nothing lasts forever. GG just accelerated the whole thing. so victory by not having to suffer as long?

AWizard said:
Gaming review media is still bad, maybe more so than ever because a lot of independent game reviewers are obviously shills (Cyberpunk 2077 holy shit) that even after being shown up as shills haven't fallen into obscurity, and now (uncool) gamers/nerds/geeks since around that time have become the ultimate "bad guy" patsy in the narrative.
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gaming review media is also dead, shit like cp2077 was sold due to massive marketing, witcher 3 being a big normalfag game and word of mouth. cod and fifa players are outside the pozz-bubble, even retarded woke cod campaigns don't matter much for people who only care about the multiplayer, anyone with a rainbow-flag is a a free kill.

normalfags will always normalfag, nothing much has changed, but besides buying overhyped games the industry is in a worse spot than 5 or 10 years ago.
 
AnOminous said:
I don't know how anyone can look at this outcome and say with a straight face that Gamergate lost. Sure we never got "ethics in games journalism," but personally, I'll settle for its obliteration, which is what has mostly happened. Notably the one somewhat nerdy one that has at least a chance at long-term survival is Jalopnik which somehow managed to avoid being completely taken over by people who hate cars and their drivers.
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Gamegate lost. Games Journalism lost and these people are also losing. It's not a football match - there doesn't have to be a winner and everyone involved can declare it a "L" and move on. Gamergate was so awful it gave Metokur literal cancer and gave Sargon of Akkad the unearned confidence to actually (unintentionally) destroy a UK political party.

Gamergate (through hate coverage, hateclicks, and so on) probably actually extended the dying games journalism industry by a few years. They would have been really smart (the journalists) to figure out they were on borrowed time and adapt but they're also morons who just assumed they would live forever.

The only "real" winners from Gamergate were the spectators who were laughing at everyone.
 
ZMOT said:
gaming review media is also dead, shit like cp2077 was sold due to massive marketing, witcher 3 being a big normalfag game and word of mouth. cod and fifa players are outside the pozz-bubble, even retarded woke cod campaigns don't matter much for people who only care about the multiplayer, anyone with a rainbow-flag is a a free kill.
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I guess. I'd count independent game reviewers like Skillup, YongYea and bunch of other faggots as part of the marketing, they have a lot of subs and appear on trending quite a lot whenever they need to shill a game they've been paid to.

I found the post I was looking for:

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Call me crazy but I honestly think that gamergate was intentionally blown up. A relatively innocuous type of person, the geeks/nerds, has become a focal "bad guy" since the early 10s. (I think the certain gentleman he's referring to is Rodger Elliot).
 
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Tanner Glass said:
The only "real" winners from Gamergate were the spectators who were laughing at everyone.
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Gamergate never even really existed. It didn't have to occupy territory or achieve anything other than fucking up shitty games journalists. It did that and then everyone involved who wasn't a complete autist moved on. The people who remain obsessed with it are the people who actually did lose because they had something to lose.

Gamergate didn't "win," because there was no win condition, but it's obvious who lost, because they're screaming about it to this day.
 
AnOminous said:
Gamergate never even really existed. It didn't have to occupy territory or achieve anything other than fucking up shitty games journalists. It did that and then everyone involved who wasn't a complete autist moved on. The people who remain obsessed with it are the people who actually did lose because they had something to lose.

Gamergate didn't "win," because there was no win condition, but it's obvious who lost, because they're screaming about it to this day.
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It became a thing from the mass media in mid-2014 and even during that time (and especially 10 years later) it's completely bullshit
 
AnOminous said:
Gamergate never even really existed. It didn't have to occupy territory or achieve anything other than fucking up shitty games journalists. It did that and then everyone involved who wasn't a complete autist moved on. The people who remain obsessed with it are the people who actually did lose because they had something to lose.

Gamergate didn't "win," because there was no win condition, but it's obvious who lost, because they're screaming about it to this day.
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Gamergate clearly lost and they did so by expecting "fair coverage" instead of just pointing and laughing.

Also, switching from Quinnspiracy to Gamergate was a major misbrand because it was always way more about people covering up her problems rather than those "gamers are dead" articles. Fucking Baldwins ruin everything.
 
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