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From what little I hear about GamerGate I think it was the most absurd thing to have happened on the internet. It felt like a bunch of retards screaming at each other, trying to make the other side capitulate to their ideas through these meaningless bouts of rage through a screen. The journalists may have not won. Even now the seas of relvance are moving against them more. But sometimes I'm afraid that we, the gamers, didn't win either. Maybe nobody did. I don't know, I wasn't around for it.
 
TVB said:
It became a thing from the mass media in mid-2014 and even during that time (and especially 10 years later) it's completely bullshit
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It became more like a "Winning the argument is like the special olympics" or any quote that involves arguments. Like this one.
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AWizard said:
I found the post I was looking for:
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I always prefered Geeks, MOPs, and Sociopaths article.
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Geeks, MOPs, and sociopaths in subculture evolution | Meaningness

How muggles and sociopaths invade and undermine creative subcultures; and how to stop them.
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There was a great YouTube video by Action Points back in the day that compared Big Bang Theory to geek blackface. It got mocked as cringe, but the overall point is still stands. That "geek" or "nerd" changed from an insult or term used to describe those with indoor hobbies, to being just another lifestyle brand to see to normies on a t-shirt.

SomeSpook said:
But sometimes I'm afraid that we, the gamers, didn't win either. Maybe nobody did. I don't know, I wasn't around for it.
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This is largely the problem with the retelling of GamerGate. Iirc, in court Kotaku claimed to have lost seven figures in revenue due to GamerGate. As seen in the replies in this very thread, people claiming GG lost also claim it had a grander goal than corruption in indie games journalism. I can understand those that say GG didn't win fast enough, but I don't it when people claim it was a failure because it didn't completely re-write all of news media and gaming to their political slant.

What people forget is that GamerGate started when a hack dev slept with a game journalists and four indie devs to advance her career, and the mass censorship of that discussion.
 
Judge Dredd said:
I always prefered Geeks, MOPs, and Sociopaths article.
meaningness.com

Geeks, MOPs, and sociopaths in subculture evolution | Meaningness

How muggles and sociopaths invade and undermine creative subcultures; and how to stop them.
meaningness.com meaningness.com

There was a great YouTube video by Action Points back in the day that compared Big Bang Theory to geek blackface. It got mocked as cringe, but the overall point is still stands. That "geek" or "nerd" changed from an insult or term used to describe those with indoor hobbies, to being just another lifestyle brand to see to normies on a t-shirt.


This is largely the problem with the retelling of GamerGate. Iirc, in court Kotaku claimed to have lost seven figures in revenue due to GamerGate. As seen in the replies in this very thread, people claiming GG lost also claim it had a grander goal than corruption in indie games journalism. I can understand those that say GG didn't win fast enough, but I don't it when people claim it was a failure because it didn't completely re-write all of news media and gaming to their political slant.

What people forget is that GamerGate started when a hack dev slept with a game journalists and four indie devs to advance her career, and the mass censorship of that discussion.
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Gamergate "won" in it's stated goals of getting gaming press websites to update their disclosure policies, getting the FTC to update their guidelines on affiliate link marketing, and ultimately costing the press a lot in lost revenue. They "lost" in some wider culture war that wasn't related to game journalism.

Despite what the media and fiction tells you, life is not a series of black and white losses and total blowout victories. Change happens incrementally, sometimes there's stalemates, pyrrhic victories, tradeoffs, and constructive progress made in unintended ways
 
GG was also winning in the sense most of it was making fun and talking shit about journoes and media as a whole. if you know libshits and their fragile personalities this is something they can't handle, at all. getting more and more unhinged just added to the LULZ, in that regard just like they average lolcow they could only ever lose.
 
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I decided to look into Mercante's Twitter, and I found out that she has some wisdom about drugs to share with us all.

Her wisdom? "You can do coke and not be a cokehead."

Well, she would know, "Damn unhinged feminist who snorts coke was my Tinder bio now I gotta change it."
 
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IGN getting some flak for posting a tweet about an article they wrote. TJD and all, but I have no fucking clue what Kai Cenat is famous for besides that riot, so it kind of makes sense that they mention it to grab attention to a random streamer.
 
CHARizard said:
TJD and all, but I have no fucking clue what Kai Cenat is famous for besides that riot, so it kind of makes sense that they mention it to grab attention to a random streamer.
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From what I read on him, he's apparently the most subbed streamer on Twitch these days. Last guy was Ludwig, before that was Ninja. Still, I imagine most people (even people following IGN) probably don't know him by name, so the riot last year probably is the only point of reference for them.
 
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