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Smaug's Smokey Hole said:
More or less. He was hitting on a girl with a pissy attitude, took the hint, moved on and now she's MAD! Like she said, "this may be sexual harassment to some, not others..."

There's more stuff but even at the time, for as fun as it was laughing at Polygon, it came off as complete bullshit. What started all of this? He was critical of the Overcooked Switch port and it made someone salty enough to start flinging accusations at him. IIRC Polygon was going to memory hole the videos he did but they were the most popular thing they had at the time so they didn't.
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I remember the story well as it was happening several years ago and consider it to be one of the most unjust personal attacks carried out by game journalists. You can find many posts about it if you search for his name on KotakuInAction.

You're correct that the catalyst for the entire ordeal was Nick Robinson talking shit about the Overcooked port, but you're wrong about the girl in question having a pissy attitude. The two mutually and consensually flirted. It's just one of those cases where the girl later regretted what turned out to be a momentary fling and so turned the short-lived relationship into ammunition against the guy. Here are further flirty DMs between the two as well as this explanatory reddit post the girl made during the middle of the controversy, revealing just how empty the accusations against Nick were:

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In order to hide this evidence that vindicates Nick and make up for their own lack of evidence besides that incriminates him to be the serial sexual harasser they say, journalists and the like who aimed to strike him down would shout "NO RECEIPTS!" The idea being that asking for evidence is intrusive and everyone should just "listen and believe" what Nick's being accused of. And in the end when they couldn't hold their initial serial sexual harasser accusation, they settled on convicting him of exploiting a "barely-legal" (i.e., legal) girl with "power dynamics", So because Nick had a degree of internet fame, he's not allowed to pursue a relationship with any adult unless that person is just as famous as he is, else the person will be too "star-struck" to think rationally and consent in his presence. It's all very hypocritical when you consider how promiscuous game journalists and their social circles are in general.

In the years since being fired from Polygon, Nick appears to still have a successful living making YouTube content about video games, regularly getting millions of views on a single video and even overcoming an additional personal tragedy in which his home burned down. This pisses off his detractors to no end as they see that their "you'll never work in this town again" mantra has failed, so you'll still see them occasionally sperg out and continue to slander him, such is this recent case with Liam Robertson. And you can be sure that despite the remarkableness of Nick Robinson obtaining this McDonald's training game on the Nintendo DS, video game outlets have buried the story when they would've otherwise written about it if it had involved anyone but Nick.
 
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Alter Ego said:
I remember the story well as it was happening several years ago and consider it to be one of the most unjust personal attacks carried out by game journalists. You can find many posts about it if you search for his name on KotakuInAction.

You're correct that the catalyst for the entire ordeal was Nick Robinson talking shit about the Overcooked port, but you're wrong about the girl in question having a pissy attitude. The two mutually and consensually flirted. It's just one of those cases where the girl later regretted what turned out to be a momentary fling and so turned the short-lived relationship into ammunition against the guy. Here are further flirty DMs between the two as well this explanatory reddit post the girl made during the middle of the controversy, revealing just how empty the accusations against Nick were:

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In order to hide this evidence that vindicates Nick and make up for their own lack of evidence besides that incriminates him to be the serial sexual harasser they say, journalists and the like who aimed to strike him down would shout "NO RECEIPTS!" The idea being that asking for evidence is intrusive and everyone should just "listen and believe" what Nick's being accused of. And in the end when they couldn't hold their initial serial sexual harasser accusation, they settled on convicting him of exploiting a "barely-legal" (i.e., legal) girl with "power dynamics", So because Nick had a degree of internet fame, he's not allowed to pursue a relationship with any adult unless that person is just as famous as he is, else the person will be too "star-struck" to think rationally and consent in his presence.

In the years since being fired from Polygon, Nick appears to still have a successful living making YouTube content about video games, regularly getting millions of views on a single video. This pisses off his detractors to no end as they see that their "you'll never work in this town again" mantra has failed, so you'll still see them occasionally sperg out and continue to slander him, such is this recent case with Liam Robertson. And you can be sure that despite the remarkableness of Nick Robinson obtaining this McDonald's training game on the Nintendo DS, video game outlets have buried the story when they would've otherwise written about it if it had involved anyone but Nick.
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All this context just shows how retarded this witch hunt was.

1) She was a LEGAL adult. He was 26 and she was 18. That is a far cry from a situation like an guy in his thirties grooming girls under 16.

2) She reciprocated. There is nothing in those DMs or her Reddit post where she told him to fuck off, that he harassed her, or forced himself on her. They didn't even meet in person!

3) There was no "power imbalance". He was not her boss. His job did not affect her life in any discernible way. She was not coerced with the threat of being fired.

If the genders were reversed, and it was a 26 year old woman getting a horny 18 old guy to send her nudes all the witch hunters would be all YOU GO GIRL and GET IT HONEY!
 
Just learned that Nick Robinson, a serial sexual harasser of women in the games industry, used a clip of my voice in his latest video without my permission and without even crediting my video. How's your day going?
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The casual nature by which this generation of individuals is willing to destroy a person's life is what I dislike the most. There is a deep moral crisis with these people and their behavior reflects untold sadness and self-loathing. To have so much prosperity all around you and to operate on nothing but hate and destruction is incredibly sad and disappointing.

I just wanted to play video games.
 
AsbestosFlaygon said:
Nick Robinson recently found and made a video about the DS' McDonalds training software. In it he shows a few clips of people talking about the game from earlier in the year, one of those was of Liam Robertson, who's not exactly pleased about it.

Tweet link and also have a pic of it archived just in case.

https://youtube.com/watch?v=-e6xOBCAVvAThe clip in question is at 11:04.

Well first off from the little I've looked into the accusations in question seem to have been mostly claims with no solid proof, but I'll leave that for someone else who actually knows a decent amount about them to talk details. Secondly dude it's only a couple of seconds and ultimately isn't even important to the video, don't act like he needs to fucking credit or ask you, it's clearly fair use, even assuming he's actually a rapist that doesn't change the legality nimrod.
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Liam is a schizo. He was credited by showing the original uploader, making it clear that Nick didn't quote him firsthand.

It's been years since Robinson was cancelled, but I want to say his crime was flirting with BPD women. I think one was a minor, but he stopped talking to her once he found that out. I might be getting that part confused with someone else.
 
Jimmy Durante's Ballsack said:
The casual nature by which this generation of individuals is willing to destroy a person's life is what I dislike the most. There is a deep moral crisis with these people and their behavior reflects untold sadness and self-loathing. To have so much prosperity all around you and to operate on nothing but hate and destruction is incredibly sad and disappointing.

I just wanted to play video games.
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These people are evil, this isn't a difference of opinion or political outlook, the behavior these people engage in is flat out evil.

And the damage they've done to video game journalism and the wider culture surrounding video games is hard to take, I think a lot about what gaming journalism/gaming culture was in the 2000s, it wasn't perfect, but it used to be a lot more fun, vibrant and exciting., game journalists actually gave a shit about video games.
 
Munchingonfish said:
Liam is a schizo. He was credited by showing the original uploader, making it clear that Nick didn't quote him firsthand.
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I mean he's friends with Laura Kate Dale I believe, so kind of goes without saying!

You know another tendency about him that's utterly infuriating is he gets mad at people taking him out of context, so what did he do?

Make a Patreon only podcast where he talks about leaks, so the only way to hear about them if you don't pay for them is from the words of others!

Come on man, what lunacy's this? Making your take harder to find is just fucking self-destructive.
 
Win98SE said:
Don't forget that one of the other things Twitter had against Nick Robinson is that he said he would fuck Krystal from the Star Fox games, which was "proof" of him being a creep.

His rebound on YouTube was really satisfying. Those videos are undeniably good.
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It happened earlier that year when Feminist Frequency, Anita Sarkeesian's racket, misconstrued Nick's obvious joke about the abundance of closeted furries (including himself) so that they could get on a soapbox decrying damsel porn. Not that there's anything wrong with that either.
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In the opening of the controversy that would get Nick fired from Polygon, Hbomberguy suggested that the shit Nick got over this Krystal incident was actually the insidious lashing of secret enemies that had already been mounting against him via gossip-mongering, "whisper networks" as I believe they like to call it. Unfortunately, it looks like Hbomberguy had since deleted his CuriousCat Q&A account where he made that statement, and archive sites are apparently shitty at capturing that site, but here's a screencap:
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For an additional look back at history, we already had a thread for Nick's controversy, from the start through when he got fired. While it's good to see that he's still able to do well for himself by making videos as he's always done, make no mistake that the controversy set him back majorly, both professionally and personally. He'd be better off had it never happened, and as I already said, those enemies are still undermining him to this very day. Hell, his Twitter account still hasn't recovered from getting 80k followers cut in half.
 
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Win98SE said:
Don't forget that one of the other things Twitter had against Nick Robinson is that he said he would fuck Krystal from the Star Fox games, which was "proof" of him being a creep.
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Srsly, that doesn't make one a creep, just a furry. Due to overlap it increases the odds of one being a creep by several thousand fold, but unlike if he was a male feminist, it's not instantly damning in and of itself.
 
To give a concrete example of the continued undermining of Nick Robinson beyond just Liam Robertson throwing a slanderous fit, the Japanese translator who helped Nick with the McDonald's DS was apparently bullied into disassociating with him.
Spoilers: It's never enough.

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This might be controversial but I'm not a huge fan of gaming journalists and think there should be more ethics in gaming journalism.
 
Win98SE said:
Don't forget that one of the other things Twitter had against Nick Robinson is that he said he would fuck Krystal from the Star Fox games, which was "proof" of him being a creep.

His rebound on YouTube was really satisfying. Those videos are undeniably good.
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I can understand why normal people would be put off by that, but don't some of these "game" journalists also write about their deviant sex life? I swear there's people with way more damning fetishes that work at these places with no issue.
 
Jimmy Durante's Ballsack said:
The casual nature by which this generation of individuals is willing to destroy a person's life is what I dislike the most. There is a deep moral crisis with these people and their behavior reflects untold sadness and self-loathing. To have so much prosperity all around you and to operate on nothing but hate and destruction is incredibly sad and disappointing.

I just wanted to play video games.
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When you're convinced that you're morally infallible and that your opponents are morally irredeemable, then destroying them is not only ok, but a good thing.

It's dangerous and terrifying.
 
AsbestosFlaygon said:
I can understand why normal people would be put off by that, but don't some of these "game" journalists also write about their deviant sex life? I swear there's people with way more damning fetishes that work at these places with no issue.
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Waypoint, which was (is?) the epicenter of SJW-ism in games, got a ton of flak for publishing erotic fanfiction on their main feed.

And generally speaking, there was a year or so where the favorite word of every game journalist was "horny." Also: many of them openly enjoy hentai and degenerate anime.

Summary: They're sex-positive until they can weaponize it against someone.
 
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