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Can anyone tell me if this Felicia Day doxxing is one of the latest brands of faux-SJW doxxing (i,e: publicly available information - address, phone number, favourite colour) or *real* doxxing (social security, credit card numbers, etc.)?

I'm pretty cynical about this severe case of "guilt by association" that's being employed here.
 
I read Felicia Day's blog post, and I'm not sure how any of it read like she's pro- or anti-gamergate. All I read from it was that she's scared by it all, and wants everyone to come back together. There was nothing in there about feminism or anything incendiary. Is it the fact that she thought that people being attacked and harassed was a bad thing? I think that any sane, sensible human being would agree with that.

It's old news, but I'm absolutely convinced that a lot of this is just being pushed forward by trolls who don't care about either philosophy. Just people who want to stir shit because they're born assholes and have an audience.

Also, how is Chu an authority on anything? All he did was write a shitty article that stated "I used to be rapey, but now I'm not! Shame on you!"
 
It's old news, but I'm absolutely convinced that a lot of this is just being pushed forward by trolls who don't care about either philosophy. Just people who want to stir shit because they're born assholes and have an audience.

But therein lies the problem: the vast majority of people don't seem to understand that trolls aren't some organised harassment campaign, but random elements that will shit on anything for a few cries of butthurt and laughs, good or bad. Apparently people are more than happy to go on a witch hunt without any evidence. Threats without any hashtags? It's GamerGate! People who have sockpuppet accounts and known for causing fake drama are being doxxed? Gotta be GamerGate! Global warming? GamerGate!
 
I read Felicia Day's blog post, and I'm not sure how any of it read like she's pro- or anti-gamergate. All I read from it was that she's scared by it all, and wants everyone to come back together. There was nothing in there about feminism or anything incendiary. Is it the fact that she thought that people being attacked and harassed was a bad thing? I think that any sane, sensible human being would agree with that.

It's old news, but I'm absolutely convinced that a lot of this is just being pushed forward by trolls who don't care about either philosophy. Just people who want to stir shit because they're born assholes and have an audience.

Also, how is Chu an authority on anything? All he did was write a shitty article that stated "I used to be rapey, but now I'm not! Shame on you!"

I think you have it right, sir. This whole thing strikes me as an excuse for people to be assholes. The idea that they're for ACCOUNTABILITY IN VIDEO GAME JOURNALISM is about the most ridiculous and self-indulgent hill to die on that I think I've heard in recent memory. As if EGM didn't shade its reviews to keep publishers from pulling ads.

I'm like, dude, if you don't want to pay sixty bucks for a game that might be shit, fucking wait six months. The price will drop to twenty because it will either be awesome and will be added to the best seller roster, or it will drop because it's a terrible game that didn't do well and wasn't worth playing anyway.

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I read Felicia Day's blog post, and I'm not sure how any of it read like she's pro- or anti-gamergate. All I read from it was that she's scared by it all, and wants everyone to come back together. There was nothing in there about feminism or anything incendiary. Is it the fact that she thought that people being attacked and harassed was a bad thing? I think that any sane, sensible human being would agree with that.
The dregs of anti and pro-Gamergate seem to disagree. This doxxing in particular is stupid because what exactly does she have to do with gaming? Some webshow a few years ago? Having a fairly neutral opinion on this whole retarded spat? Stay classy internet.

I think you have it right, sir. This whole thing strikes me as an excuse for people to be assholes. The idea that they're for ACCOUNTABILITY IN VIDEO GAME JOURNALISM is about the most ridiculous and self-indulgent hill to die on that I think I've heard in recent memory. As if EGM didn't shade its reviews to keep publishers from pulling ads.

I'm like, dude, if you don't want to pay sixty bucks for a game that might be shit, fucking wait six months. The price will drop to twenty because it will either be awesome and will be added to the best seller roster, or it will drop because it's a terrible game that didn't do well and wasn't worth playing anyway.

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Glad to see reasonable opinions in here.
 
This doxxing in particular is stupid because what exactly does she have to do with gaming? Some webshow a few years ago? Having a fairly neutral opinion on this whole retarded spat? Stay classy internet.

It's a weird doxing because Felicia Day has more to do with the overall "geek" and "nerd" culture than she does with gaming and her post kind of reads as more neutral than it does showing support for either side.

Really off-topic but I'm not looking forward to another Felicia Day appearance in Supernatural.
 
It's a weird doxing because Felicia Day has more to do with the overall "geek" and "nerd" culture than she does with gaming and her post kind of reads as more neutral than it does showing support for either side.

Really off-topic but I'm not looking forward to another Felicia Day appearance in Supernatural.
As mentioned by That Chris Guy above, it has less to do with her views on GG than it does with the fact she's internet famous and has the potential to cause drama. The troll who doxed her could be for either side but his primary motivation is to stir the pot and get people going at it. At the same time we have seen in the past the people who take a neutral view towards GG often wind up getting doxed and harassed by anti-gg people so there's a possibility that someone decided to harass Felicia Day to get her to go anti-gg and bring her legions of fans with her.

Also I agree with you on Supernatural, but that show has more problems than just Felicia Day
 
It might simply be that I'm not heavily tied into social media, but all of my friends seem to have remained silent about the GamerGate issue, and thus I'm not going to try and chase them on the subject. Might also be because none of them are American and thus don't have to deal with MSNBC and CNN bullshit.

Ultimately, this debacle reinforces just how much social media needs to remain isolated from professional work. There is no doubt in my mind that I would be fired from my job for some of the douchey things that the anti-gg crowd have said and done, but hey - pretend that it's for a good cause and you'll get away with murder! No slap on the wrist for being the petulant child that you are...

Off-topic: I didn't like Felicia Day in Supernatural either. She started off okay, but then they turned her into Generic Lesbian Stereotype and have been rolling with that ever since. It's like they didn't think of how to portray her demographic normally without playing up the stereotype.
 
It might simply be that I'm not heavily tied into social media, but all of my friends seem to have remained silent about the GamerGate issue, and thus I'm not going to try and chase them on the subject. Might also be because none of them are American and thus don't have to deal with MSNBC and CNN bullshit.

Ultimately, this debacle reinforces just how much social media needs to remain isolated from professional work. There is no doubt in my mind that I would be fired from my job for some of the douchey things that the anti-gg crowd have said and done, but hey - pretend that it's for a good cause and you'll get away with murder! No slap on the wrist for being the petulant child that you are...

Off-topic: I didn't like Felicia Day in Supernatural either. She started off okay, but then they turned her into Generic Lesbian Stereotype and have been rolling with that ever since. It's like they didn't think of how to portray her demographic normally without playing up the stereotype.

They have to keep her character from being a love interest for either Sam or Dean because if ANY woman comes between "their perfect love for each other", about 500,000 yaoi-obsessed fangirls will harass and threaten the actress/studio. It's happened before.

back on topic, why can't the anti-GGers leave the things I really like alone?
 
They have to keep her character from being a love interest for either Sam or Dean because if ANY woman comes between "their perfect love for each other", about 500,000 yaoi-obsessed fangirls will harass and threaten the actress/studio. It's happened before.


back on topic, why can't the anti-GGers leave the things I really like alone?

Because their parents never bought them a Nintendo 64 so they feel they must ruin it for everyone.
 
Slightly off-topic: What do you all think will be the state of gaming when all is said and done? I'm hoping that everyone can find some common ground but that seems very unlikely at this point.
 
Slightly off-topic: What do you all think will be the state of gaming when all is said and done? I'm hoping that everyone can find some common ground but that seems very unlikely at this point.
It really depends on how much damage gets caused to Gawker. If Gamergate ultimately does wind up finishing it off (and it might; look at what Flush Rush did to Limbaugh for an analogy), it'd be a win for pretty much everyone involved, and there's equal chance that Gamergate could dissipate thereafter or continue to fight for consumer advocacy.

Even if Gawker doesn't go the way of Clear Channel, the damage done to it and its brand, by the time Gamergate runs out of steam (and it has no sign of stopping) will be enough to humble even the mightiest. The ultimate win of course, is gamers themselves; marginalized and ostracized for decades, they have already proven that they are not to be fucked with. Sponsors know they don't need a Gawker to advertise to if they're going to cause more harm to their brand and good. Gamers will be willing to vote with their wallets.

There's bigger sociological repercussions, too. Gamers will no longer be silent when accused of being responsible for all of civilization's ills, like they were in the 80s and 90s. There will be repercussions from now on when someone accuses us, Jack Thompson style, of being the cause of the Virginia Tech shooting or Sandy Hook. And the big devs are taking note as we speak - no longer can they simply throw money at good PR and expect to walk off clean afterwards (that worked so well for Destiny, Colonial Marines, etc, amirite).

The net results will be better games, better games journalism, and perhaps most notably, a bit more respect for gamerkind writ large. And that, for me, is worth this months-long siege.

NPR AFTERMATH SEGMENT:
My favorite moment of the NPR thing actually came right after Milo. For the entire duration of the thing, Milo used nothing but cold, hard facts. When Chu went up, he immediately began the rhetoric and Milo called him out on it.

Chu then said he didn't need facts.

Moments later, Remi from NYS made him look like an even bigger asshole. It was glorious. Chu kept insisting, even after the initial beat-down, that #NotYouShield is the most offensive thing ever, worse than #GamerGate, and, in fact, worse than any real or imagined death threats. The guy came across as fucking deranged.

If you want to see it, check it out here. Warning, there's a lot of Anti-GG Sperging on display before based Milo shows up.
 
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Slightly off-topic: What do you all think will be the state of gaming when all is said and done? I'm hoping that everyone can find some common ground but that seems very unlikely at this point.
Frankly I'm not totally sure what the aftermath of all this will be. AAA gaming will be largely unaffected, since that level of the industry has never really been a major GG issue. The closest involvement AAA has had so far was when the gaming press tried to deflect some of the heat away from themselves with that whole Shadow of Mordor youtube thing.

I'm cautiously optimistic that the indie scene will become what it was always supposed to be, and that talented individuals who don't happen to live/swap bodily fluids with Kotaku writers will have a chance to get recognized. And if operation disrespectful nod continues to be a successful tactic to harm clickbait sites, games that don't appeal to SJW sensibilities won't be the targets of manufactured controversies anymore. That'd be swell.
 
So this got published earlier today. Pay close attention to paragraph six where he FUCKING THREATENS A MEDIA SMEAR CAMPAIGN against companies that pull their advertising over GG.
 

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So this got published earlier today. Pay close attention to paragraph six where he FUCKING THREATENS A MEDIA SMEAR CAMPAIGN against companies that pull their advertising over GG.

This is way too wordy. Who's got the time to read a bunch of words in this day and age? They might contain facts, and everyone knows there's nothing that gets in the way of truth quicker than facts. I hope you don't mind I rewrote it for him:

Dear Corporate PR Departments

Don't listen to Your Customers. Your Customers are not really your customers, we in the media are. We are the customers, because you pay us money to advertise things that people who aren't your customers, The Customers, purchase. Can't you see that, idiots? All you are doing when you pull your customers advertising revenue is encouraging Your Customers to buy your stupid products that no one cares about! What do your products do, anyway? They make computers? They are a car? Who would ever buy that? No, you need to listen to us, the media, who are your customers, and continue to give us money and ignore everything, especially if they are Your Customers.

Love,

Ryan
 
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Milo is such a beast. It's like watching a handicap match where the sole wrestler decks his opponents all at once.
 
As if to follow up Smutley's Article, this fucking happened.

They're trying to bully UNICEF because Gamergate supporters donated to it. Once again, the so-called "weaponized charity" angle.

I'm completely serious.
 

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Patton Oswalt and all the staff at Giant Bomb recently spoke up against "GamerGate" if you are looking for more people to add on your ignore list

It's a bit funny to me how back in 2007 Jeff Gerstman was fired from his job for giving out too low scores to games that paid to be featured on GameSpot and while game journalists and other industrialists called foul the public never really cared. GameSpot was still as strong a name as ever.
That all changed, though, and things got so serious that death threats regularly started flowing into the office. Not because of gross injustice or paid-for-reviews though, but because they hired
Carolyn Petit, a transsexual, as a reviewer. The comments sections of their videos featuring her were overflowing with comments about how transsexuals should NOT be allowed to show their faces online and how it's unforgivable to call her a "her". This is not an exaggeration.

It's funny though. People say GiantBomb, the site created by the man who was LITERATELY fired due to shady politics, is boycotted because he supports a transsexual woman - a woman who works for the site who terminated him for going against investors, a crime which has never been brought up in the context. You can't fabricate a better analogy even if you were Frankenstein himself.

Firing someone for going against ad-revenue is A-OK, as long as you don't "start speaking tumblr."
 
I was inspired by something on 8chan and shamelessly improved it:

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