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bros i literally got into f1 like a week ago - so i really have no idea what i'm talking about - BUT, what the fuck is up with that toto wolf guy? from the little i've seen so far of f1, mercedes just seems totally lame (like completely obnoxious most the time - except for the blonde driver guy, he seems relatively normal) and something about the captain guy just seems off - what's his deal (every time i see clips of him, i'm always reminded of patrick batemen for some reason - like shit seems so calculated)?
 
bros i literally got into f1 like a week ago - so i really have no idea what i'm talking about - BUT, what the fuck is up with that toto wolf guy? from the little i've seen so far of f1, mercedes just seems totally lame (like completely obnoxious most the time - except for the blonde driver guy, he seems relatively normal) and something about the captain guy just seems off - what's his deal (every time i see clips of him, i'm always reminded of patrick batemen for some reason - like shit seems so calculated)?
They're a hugely successful team. To quote wiki:

In 2010, the company bought the Brawn GP team, rebranding it as Mercedes. After a major rule shake-up in 2014, Mercedes has become one of the most successful teams in Formula One history; having achieved consecutive Drivers' and Constructors' Championships from 2014 to 2020. It has set the new record for most wins in a season (19 in 2016), and for most consecutive constructors' titles.

The manufacturer has collected more than 200 wins as an engine supplier and is ranked second in Formula One history. Nine Constructors' and 13 Drivers' Championships have been won with Mercedes-Benz engines.


Toto has been there since 2013. I think he's doing okay myself.

Everyone senior in F1 has a huge ego. Toto included.
 
Toto also shaped Mercedes after Ferrari when Rosberg quit after 2016. I think the Silver Wars of 2014-2106 were enough for him so he hired a slightly slower driver to complement Hamilton. Just like Ferrari did with Schumacher and Barrichello (though some part of me wished they had hired Alesi instead of Barrichello). nd it worked. Plus their strongest opponents made too many mistakes (Ferrari / Vettel in 2017 and 2018) to contest Hamilton. This year though. This year we see Hamilton make way more mistakes. Seems like he got complacent after 2019 and 2020. But his luck iss still holding (though he got some Karma back at him in Baku)
 
bros i literally got into f1 like a week ago - so i really have no idea what i'm talking about - BUT, what the fuck is up with that toto wolf guy? from the little i've seen so far of f1, mercedes just seems totally lame (like completely obnoxious most the time - except for the blonde driver guy, he seems relatively normal) and something about the captain guy just seems off - what's his deal (every time i see clips of him, i'm always reminded of patrick batemen for some reason - like shit seems so calculated)?
He is a ruthlessly German kommandant of Merc, on par with the greats of the sports like Enzo Ferrari, Alfred Neubauer, Colin Chapman, Ron Dennis and Frank Williams. His ability to keep a remarkably tight ship and be this consistent for the past decade has resulted in the 2014 to present Merc as one of the most dominant teams of the sport.
 
The dipshit who decided throwing bits of car at his rivals is appealing his ban.

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Funny how all his statements about being so sorry and accepting whatever punishment the FIA gave him have melted away isn't it. They should have kept the lifetime ban, let's hope the FIA ask the appeals court to make it lifetime again as he clearly isn't that sorry.
 
The dipshit who decided throwing bits of car at his rivals is appealing his ban.
He was a part time racer who only raced at tracks his father owned. Him and his father both attacked the rider he threw shit at after the race. He announced his complete retirement from racing before the ban was handed to him, and the FIA Karting series announced they would no longer go to tracks his father owned.

My guess is his old man needs the karting back there, and him being banned is a blockage to that.
 
The onboard highlight reel is out and there are a couple of really cool moments.

Check out this, for instance:
Not only is it a pleasure to watch these two young drivers go toe to toe, but listen carefully for the engine sounds. You can tell by the revving how the engine is put under much more strain when Leclerc leaves the slipstream. Same with Gasly tucking in behind Leclerc, his engine suddenly revs a lot higher, it's pretty sweet.

And there are so many amazing scenes in that video. Some nice driving from all across the grid, it's really worth a watch.

So Wolff is still busy blaming some mystical forces for Hamilton's mistakes and crap performances.

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Meanwhile Bottas gets flack for his pit crew destroying the wheel nut on his car because he was 2 cm off the centreline.

No wonder Hamilton is so up his own ass, I wish I could fuck up that badly at work and have my manager make up excuses for me.
Oh for fuck's sake Wolff, admit that your precious Abloolew has made a mistake for once. He might not have misjudged the braking point (though I still think he did, it was just amplified by the magic button bullshit), but he still pushed a button that he should not have pushed and has so far never pushed without intending to do so. Perez baited him into a mistaken, and whether that was pusing a wrong button, misjudding the braking point or a mix of both is besides the point. Hamilton made some cool statement about marathons and then faltered under the pressure.

Is he such a frail little flower the the slightest mistake will make his confidence spiral into oblivion? If so, that would be pretty shameful for such a supposedly successful and skilled driver.
He'll be back on the front row on the very next race, in the Merc it's so easy, Raghunathan might be able to do it... and if he can't do it of his own accord, Toto will gladly throw Bottas under the bus once again.

But frankly, if this spell of failure lasts for yet another race or two, I could see Hamilton completely falling apart.

Funny how all his statements about being so sorry and accepting whatever punishment the FIA gave him have melted away isn't it.
It was just a show to pretend he was super sowwy, so the mean FIA might go easy on him or go "oh well, he's abandoned racing, so we don't have to punish him really..." just so he can make a comeback.
Dude needs to be banned for life and if that doesn't hold up, he should have a really, really unfortunate accident where he stumbles and repeatedly bashes his face into someone's tyre iron. It'll be the craziest thing and all the guys around the paddock will swear it's the exact turn of events, too.
 
But frankly, if this spell of failure lasts for yet another race or two, I could see Hamilton completely falling apart
Hamilton has never done well under championship pressure. In a single race he can deal with it because he knows that car will carry him to the championship but when there is a championship on the line and the race matters he falls apart. Look how many clumsy crashes he had when he was up against Rossberg for the championship. If Vestappen is still pressuring him in the championship after the summer break expect him to really start to do dumb shit.
 
Hamilton has never done well under championship pressure. In a single race he can deal with it because he knows that car will carry him to the championship but when there is a championship on the line and the race matters he falls apart. Look how many clumsy crashes he had when he was up against Rossberg for the championship. If Vestappen is still pressuring him in the championship after the summer break expect him to really start to do dumb shit.
Not to mention Verstappen is also quiet aggresive and a bit more skilled then Rosberg. Rosberg showed Hamilton up when Rosberg decided to be more hard nosed and focused.Aand we have seen how aggresive Verstappen is in one on one battles (Imola, Barcelona)
Of course Hamilton so far is blessed with nearly ungodly luck. I hope Verstappen gets more lucky the next races.
 
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Hamilton has never done well under championship pressure. In a single race he can deal with it because he knows that car will carry him to the championship but when there is a championship on the line and the race matters he falls apart. Look how many clumsy crashes he had when he was up against Rossberg for the championship. If Vestappen is still pressuring him in the championship after the summer break expect him to really start to do dumb shit.
The thing is, Hamilton rarely makes mistakes, and I was wondering if that is due to him never really being under much pressure.
He has mechanics that take care of the car.
He has engineers that guide him through all aspects of managing his setup.
He has strategists that perfectly time his stops.
He has a wingman, that will gladly throw himself into a hail of gunfire, to protect him.
And ultimately, he has a car that allows him to very freely set his pace depending on the demands of his team.

Where any driver in a worse car is forced to constantly push the car to the limit to keep up with the unbeatable Mercedes, Hamilton just has to push for a few laps, half a race at worst, until he's in front and then he can just set his pace to stay ahead of the pack far enough to not push the car or himself too much and he can essentially just coast through.
Even when he's in the middle of a pack, he can rest assured that the car and strategists will carry him through to the end. He has way more room to spare, where everyone else is forced to walk the edge. Don't get me wrong, he does drive very consistent and almost never makes mistakes, that is quite an accomplishment, but I also think that Verstappen has to walk a much tighter rope to achieve the same speed.

The ease of driving the single most amazing car on the grid for almost a decade might have made him complacent. For him, winning is a cakewalk, cause literally everything is made to be that way for him. And that might also lead to him completely breaking apart under pressure in the future. We've seen with Seb how much of an impact confidence has on performance, when Hamilton feels that he's being cornered, possibly the team as well due to Verstappen and Perez bagging the constructor's title while Bottas is flailing about in the midfield, Lewlew's magic button incident might not remain a unique and rare mistake.

I think I speak for most people in this thread: It would be nice to see Hamilton humbled. It would make the championship so much more interesting to watch.
 
Damn, his parting words have such a strong "I am legally obliged to formulate this standardized statement" vibes.
I know they can't just say that things didn't work out and that it's better for everyone involved to part ways, but this pseudo-saccharine wordfuckery to veil that someone got the boot is kinda meh.

But we never know, there's a German saying: "Wo gehobelt wird, da fallen Spähne" (Chips fall wherever a carpenter's plane is used). Williams wants to restructure itself and get back to the top and this guy might either just have been an interim team principal from the get go (even though I doubt it), or the team's failure to instantly improve overnight was blamed on him...
I do wonder what the future has in store for F1, would be nice if teams like Williams had a shot at taking a championship again. It doesn't have to be Mercedes, Ferrari or Red Bull all the time. though I'd love to see Vettel taking a WDC title with AM. A man can dream...
 
Oh shit, there's an F1 thread on KiwiFarms?

I've been watching Formula 1 autistically since 2010. I don't dare to read this thread. I'm sure your opinions are garbage.
Sure enough, I see you loved the last race.
The last Grand Prix was awful because of Pirelli's Lego tyres and Masi's incompetence. Just admit it, Verstappen should have won it and Hamilton should have finished on the podium. That result would be fair. However, this result didn't come due to bullshit. I can't enjoy a race when it's not fair.
The race should have categorically ended behind the safety car. That would be the expected and consistent thing to do. But fucking Masi red-flagged it and restarted it exclusively for the show. That's unacceptable bullshit. Whiting had once ended an entire championship behind the safety car (2012).
Also, every driver that didn't slow down for the double-waved yellow flags should have been penalised.
I don't think I've seen a race directed and monitored that badly. I'm not going to remember it fondly. At least Verstappen's tyre failure and Hamilton's lock-up extinguished each other and the championship wasn't affected.

Anyway, let me introduce myself. I always support Ferrari and their drivers. Ferrari has been the underdog since 2010 and the next time they eventually win a championship will be orgasmic for me. My opinions are super objective. I don't have a hater boner for Hamilton like most of you (but I don't love him either). If you can't admire his speed, adaptability and consistency then I don't know what to tell you. Most drivers on the grid are actually great. Sadly, there's too much talent and not enough seats. The sport needs more teams desperately.

I'll make sure to visit this thread again. Can't be bothered to read past posts though.
 
You see a lot of us have been watching F1 for a long ass time and have seen true greats at work.

Not the likes of Boolew who gets handed the best car on the grid and still spends his entire time crying on the radio at his poor race engineer. Gets handed the championship but doesn't seem to give the first fuck about the sport and spends his time hanging out with celebrities, launching a clothing line and lecturing everyone about how he had to work so hard to get into the sport as the first non-white driver ever (ignoring all the rest because they don't count apparently) when Ron Dennis handed everything to him on a silver platter. Who has admitted in an interview he does zero simulator work because he doesn't enjoy it when that is how cars are set up for races races developed so developing and setting up his championship winning machinery is down to his team mate and reserve driver.

The last race had loads of action up and down the grid. Was Ham going to get Perez (he couldn't), was Vettel's long soft run going to pay off (it did). We had some Ricciardo vs Norris battling. Seeing how Alonso and Seinz were both being hunted by mclaren drivers. The race had loads of on track and strategy action. This season in general has been a high level for the high speed game of chess being played.

It's not like tyre (or other component) failures haven't been a feature of F1 since it started because they have, in fact this is the highest reliability era ever across all components. The result was what the result was, shit happens and plenty of major mechanical failures have changed races and entire seasons. I don't see how a mechanical component failing is any less "fair" than a driver making a mistake, being taken out by someone else or a super slow pitstop is, it's all part of the sport.

The red flag was thrown for good reason, they had no indication a tyre was about to fall apart. If you read the pirelli report you will also find the rear tyre on lewlew's car was about to go when they threw the red and let everyone change. Hell you even got the radio between redbull and the FIA letting them know that it was a big safety concern.
 
Not the likes of Boolew who gets handed the best car on the grid and still spends his entire time crying on the radio at his poor race engineer. Gets handed the championship but doesn't seem to give the first fuck about the sport and spends his time hanging out with celebrities, launching a clothing line and lecturing everyone about how he had to work so hard to get into the sport as the first non-white driver ever (ignoring all the rest because they don't count apparently) when Ron Dennis handed everything to him on a silver platter. Who has admitted in an interview he does zero simulator work because he doesn't enjoy it when that is how cars are set up for races races developed so developing and setting up his championship winning machinery is down to his team mate and reserve driver.
I hate reading this kind of shit. Like who gives a fuck. The guy does his job, doesn't he? I'm sorry that Hamilton doesn't match your image of an alpha racing driver. I don't like him either because I think he's boring but I don't have strong opinions of him. Most drivers do and say stupid shit outside the sport. Verstappen is in a relationship with a MILF 10 years older than him. Leclerc is a brand ambassador for Giorgio Armani. Rosberg uploads vlogs on Youtube. There's no reason to single out Hamilton.
It's not like tyre (or other component) failures haven't been a feature of F1 since it started because they have, in fact this is the highest reliability era ever across all components. The result was what the result was, shit happens and plenty of major mechanical failures have changed races and entire seasons. I don't see how a mechanical component failing is any less "fair" than a driver making a mistake, being taken out by someone else or a super slow pitstop is, it's all part of the sport.
If Verstappen won the race and Hamilton finished 3rd, then Verstappen would have extended his championship lead by 11 points (+1 for flap).
Could you imagine if Hamilton won the championship in the end by less than 11 points? Then you'd be saying that Lewis owes the championship to luck because of what happened in Baku. This kind of stupid shit shouldn't affect the championship. Tyres should only fail when they exceed their durability. And tyres are not mechanical components. Tyres are a standard part of everyone's cars that mustn't be a safety concern. We shouldn't be even talking about them.
The red flag was thrown for good reason, they had no indication a tyre was about to fall apart. If you read the pirelli report you will also find the rear tyre on lewlew's car was about to go when they threw the red and let everyone change. Hell you even got the radio between redbull and the FIA letting them know that it was a big safety concern.
No, it wasn't. The safer thing to do in this situation was to end the race behind a safety car. There's no fucking way another tyre would have blown up behind the safety car. The tyres loads would be too low for anything to happen. And Masi himself said that he wanted to end the race under green flag conditions. In fact, Masi risked having more accidents by restarting the race. What if Hamilton wasn't the car leading before he locked his front wheels? He would have crashed into someone 100%.
That Red Bull radio message doesn't mean anything. The race director's job isn't to take orders from teams. In addition, we now know that Perez's car was close to retiring. I would say that Red Bull was trying to stop the race so they could assess the car and situation.

I wouldn't trust a single thing Pirelli announces. They are trying to cover their asses. Like Verstappen said, they are just going to blame it on invisible debris. Stroll's and Verstappen's accidents were almost identical (same tyres, same age, same spot at the track) and half an hour apart. You don't think that's suspicious? And only Stroll, Verstappen and Hamilton run over this invisible debris? Bullshit.
 
new engine coming to the red bull bois l33ts go


Red Bull set to get Honda engine upgrade boost ahead of French Grand Prix​

June 8, 2021
During a Formula 1 season, a car’s engine cannot go through a lot of changes. However, minor tweaking is allowed which can end up adding valuable seconds to a car’s performance.

Mercedes had deployed new engines for all its teams during the Azerbaijan Grand Prix.

However, Honda decided to wait for another round and will be releasing their engine for the French Grand Prix.

As a result, we can expect Red Bull and AlphaTauri to see a significant change in their performance in the upcoming race.

Gasly had a difficult time with old engine​

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Honda F1 engine. Source: thesportsrush.com
The lack of engine performance was felt in Baku.

For instance, Pierre Gasly ended up losing speed over the straights and as a result, was overtaken by Sebastian Vettel.

He also had to go through a tough fight to keep Charles Leclerc‘s Ferrari behind him.

According to Auto, Motor und Sport, Honda will be providing both Red Bull and AlphaTauri with new engines which will be more reliable as compared to the current ones.

This will be good news for Max Verstappen and Sergio Perez who need this upgrade to counter the threat from Mercedes.

Let us know what you think in the comments below!

Read More: Max Verstappen was going through a medical checkup when Lewis Hamilton made mistake of the season
 
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I hate reading this kind of shit. Like who gives a fuck. The guy does his job, doesn't he
It my explanation of not liking him, sorry if its not good enough for you but it is what it is.

Being in a relationship, meh not like its some big paddock drama (see washed up popular woman).

Being a brand ambassador, yeah you mean like drivers have been forever, you know sponsorship and all that.

Rossberg, oh you mean the guy who hasn't driven in 5 years.

Hambone is desperate to be accepted by black american celebrities as one of them hence all the standard rapper lifestyle bullshit.

If Verstappen won the race and Hamilton finished 3rd, then Verstappen would have extended his championship lead by 11 points (+1 for flap).
Could you imagine if Hamilton won the championship in the end by less than 11 points? Then you'd be saying that Lewis owes the championship to luck because of what happened in Baku. This kind of stupid shit shouldn't affect the championship. Tyres should only fail when they exceed their durability. And tyres are not mechanical components. Tyres are a standard part of everyone's cars that mustn't be a safety concern. We shouldn't be even talking about them
If you don't like mechanical parts failing go watch people.playing the F1 game rather than the sport. These things have always been an integral part of the sport. This kind of "stupid shit" is and always has been part of the championship.

There's no fucking way another tyre would have blown up behind the safety car. The tyres loads would be too low for anything to happen.
Glad you know exactly what could or could not have happened in a given scenario. Otherwise it would just be what if speculation.

What if Hamilton wasn't the car leading before he locked his front wheels? He would have crashed into someone 100%.
Oh no a first corner incident, the horror.

I wouldn't trust a single thing Pirelli announces. They are trying to cover their asses.
Of course you wouldn't because you aren't interested in understanding a major part of the sport. You just want some magical world where unreliability doesn't harm a championship as if that's never happened.

Paul Ricard should favor the Mercs anyways because it's an extremely flat track with long straights.
Yeah, I fully expect normal service to resume. The merc is build for traditional circuits and has never gone well on street circuits. Hopefully the Honda upgrade will help close some of that gap.

It will be interesting to see if the new rear wing tests they had to bring in to stop Toto and Hambone crying will cause any problems for any of the other teams (or merc themselves since their wing was deflecting the same as red bull's).
 
more rumors swirling about gasly back to red bull. I don't like this because 1. I love perez at redbull, he has the best start of a second driver in the verstappen era since Ricciardo, and 2. since gasly had such a bad experience last time he should get the chance to go to another team
 
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