Formula 1 Discussion - And favourite driver?

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What's your favorite livery this season? Rosso Corsa has always been near and dear to me, so I have to go with Scuderia Ferrari, but I do like Aston Martin's livery.
 
What's your favorite livery this season? Rosso Corsa has always been near and dear to me, so I have to go with Scuderia Ferrari, but I do like Aston Martin's livery.
I think I'd go with Alpine or Williams. Ferrari has this weird dark part at the end that looks like it wet its pants combined with that green Logo on the side, it's kinda weird.
Aston Martin is ok, but it doesn't really pop out from a group of cars, sadly. Should have gone for a less glossy slightly brighter green, imho.
 
Any idea on what Mazepin's contract with Haas is? I know Haas isn't taking this year seriously but...

Stroll Jr has to be thanking every deity for Mazespin showing the world what a true pay driver looks like. Stroll's immunity from driver competition is annoying, but he's a competent F1 driver.

The russian brat is a road hazard.
 
It's a bit early to really tell how well Mazepin will be doing throughout his career, he might become a decent driver... but I have to say, him being a driver in the slowest car at least means he's not much of a risk for anyone else (especially at the start). If he stays on this level, jfc, is Haas going to be a joke in the future.

But I agree wholeheartedly, Stroll might not have to compete with others as much to keep his seat, but he is a decent enough driver. He sometimes has lapses of judgement, but if he irons out those kinks, he might actually get a few podiums here and there, even.
Mazepin... yeah... we'll just have to wait and see.

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It's not like he fell off a tree branch into an F1 cockpit, he drove open-wheel racecars before going to Haas, so he should have at least some experience to draw from when operating an F1 car, even though they demand a lot more of their drivers than GP3 or F2. But I feel Haas is severely fucked with two rookies, who can't give decent feedback on what aspect of the car needs tweaking. All they can do is going "the car's balance is shit", but whether that means to change the front wing or rear, whether they need to increase or decrease the angle, how to shift the breaking balance and so on...
According to Romain Grosjean last season, Haas had an issue with the car's balance shifting the longer they raced, if they didn't solve that issue, how are two rookies expected to deal with that, when even two seasoned drivers like Grosjean and Magnussen had problems?
 
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It's a bit early to really tell how well Mazepin will be doing throughout his career, he might become a decent driver... but I have to say, him being a driver in the slowest car at least means he's not much of a risk for anyone else (especially at the start). If he stays on this level, jfc, is Haas going to be a joke in the future.

But I agree wholeheartedly, Stroll might not have to compete with others as much to keep his seat, but he is a decent enough driver. He sometimes has lapses of judgement, but if he irons out those kinks, he might actually get a few podiums here and there, even.
Mazepin... yeah... we'll just have to wait and see.

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https://youtube.com/watch?v=O9P3uMKkGe0
It's not like he fell off a tree branch into an F1 cockpit, he drove open-wheel racecars before going to Haas, so he should have at least some experience to draw from when operating an F1 car, even though they demand a lot more of their drivers than GP3 or F2. But I feel Haas is severely fucked with two rookies, who can't give decent feedback on what aspect of the car needs tweaking. All they can do is going "the car's balance is shit", but whether that means to change the front wing or rear, whether they need to increase or decrease the angle, how to shift the breaking balance and so on...
According to Romain Grosjean last season, Haas had an issue with the car's balance shifting the longer they raced, if they didn't solve that issue, how are two rookies expected to deal with that, when even two seasoned drivers like Grosjean and Magnussen had problems?
Does Haas at least have an experienced reserve/test driver that can give proper feedback on parts that need adjustments and whatnot?

Hindsight is 20/20, but Mazepin's dad should've just bought a NASCAR team, considering that Nikita treats those open wheelers like they're stock cars.
 
Does Haas at least have an experienced reserve/test driver that can give proper feedback on parts that need adjustments and whatnot?

Hindsight is 20/20, but Mazepin's dad should've just bought a NASCAR team, considering that Nikita treats those open wheelers like they're stock cars.
Current test drivers are Louis Deletraz and Pietro Fittipaldi.
They are barely any more experienced than Mick or Mazepin... Given that Haas wrote off this season, pouring most of their resources into the new regulation tech of 2022, this isn't much of an issue, since the car is going nowhere this year anyway, but even for car developement/fine-tuning, they should have someone around that is more accomplished than a quartet of literally baby-faced rookies.

I really wonder what Haas is going to do for 2022, most likely they will just buy some manifacturer's design wholecloth, but to cobble together a working racecar even with those parts will be rather hard, when their drivers lack the experience to narrow down the origins of instability or balance issues.
Haas will be forced to rely on monkey-models and fresh drivers, it will take them quite some time to climb out of the pit that the team currently is in and while a lot of the teams can profit from a regulations change coming season to see if they can climb to the top of the stack with a particularly smart application of these regulations, teams like Haas can at best hope to get a working car, it seems.
 
I know that THE RACE's WatchMojo-tier Top 10 videos are pretty cringe, but their most recent video had at least one based commenter.


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I miss last season triple headers, what's this waiting multiple weeks for the next GP nonsense.

Wow, can't wait to lose another classic track for another Tilke ring.

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If they alternated seaons with the other American GP then fine but somehow I doubt that's what they're after. Especially since they keep pushing for a New York and a Nashville GP too. Liberty are just going to push for it becoming a North American series.
 
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I miss last season triple headers, what's this waiting multiple weeks for the next GP nonsense.

Wow, can't wait to lose another classic track for another Tilke ring.

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If they alternated seaons with the other American GP then fine but somehow I doubt that's what they're after. Especially since they keep pushing for a New York and a Nashville GP too. Liberty are just going to push for it becoming a North American series.
I can almost feel it. They'll give up on some classic track like Spa, Silverstone or Monaco in favor of this shit.
If Liberty was worth its salt, they'd ditch Saudi Barbaria, Bahrain and China and go to their US courses instead. Fuck the oil-shits and pollution-goblins.
 
I can almost feel it. They'll give up on some classic track like Spa, Silverstone or Monaco in favor of this shit.
If Liberty was worth its salt, they'd ditch Saudi Barbaria, Bahrain and China and go to their US courses instead. Fuck the oil-shits and pollution-goblins.
Part of me wants them to do a race on either Daytona or Talladega's super speedway. Just to see how fast they can really go. That, or they could go with the Watkins Glen or Daytona road courses.
 
I can almost feel it. They'll give up on some classic track like Spa, Silverstone or Monaco in favor of this shit.
If Liberty was worth its salt, they'd ditch Saudi Barbaria, Bahrain and China and go to their US courses instead. Fuck the oil-shits and pollution-goblins.
I can't work out why Liberty has such a hard-on for the US. F1 has never really gained much traction in the States, and it's not like the US has produced any notable F1 drivers since Michael Andretti. As far as open-wheelers go, US racing fans appear to be satisfied with IndyCar.

Any more than one F1 round in the US per season seems excessive to me, especially if it means losing heritage tracks rather than the modern Tilke abominations.
 
I can't work out why Liberty has such a hard-on for the US. F1 has never really gained much traction in the States, and it's not like the US has produced any notable F1 drivers since Michael Andretti. As far as open-wheelers go, US racing fans appear to be satisfied with IndyCar.

Any more than one F1 round in the US per season seems excessive to me, especially if it means losing heritage tracks rather than the modern Tilke abominations.
IIRC, Phil Hill won the '61 F1 title with Ferrari. Also won at Le Mans.
 
IIRC, Phil Hill won the '61 F1 title with Ferrari. Also won at Le Mans.
Dan Gurney left a serious mark on F1 both as a driver and a constructor. He invented the Gurney flap, as well as contributing to three constructors' championships in the '60s.

idk what happened, but it just seems to me that F1 is a long way off from engaging Americans to the same extent as they were back in the early days. The only American with significant F1 involvement in current year is Gene Haas, and it's been a very expensive disaster. He's definitely getting better bang for his bucks with his NASCAR team.

Maybe it's F1's shitty return on investment compared to the likes of NASCAR and IndyCar that's preventing more Americans from getting involved? Not just for potential team owners, but drivers (and their sponsors) too. I can't see how running 3 or 4 US Grands Prix per season is going to address this particular problem.
 
I can't work out why Liberty has such a hard-on for the US. F1 has never really gained much traction in the States, and it's not like the US has produced any notable F1 drivers since Michael Andretti. As far as open-wheelers go, US racing fans appear to be satisfied with IndyCar.

Any more than one F1 round in the US per season seems excessive to me, especially if it means losing heritage tracks rather than the modern Tilke abominations.
I guess in their mind, it translates into "The US is a growing market".

If they actually abandon a legacy course in favor of yet another "guaranteed no overtakes" Tilke city course, I'll be super pissed.

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Watching this, you wonder if Ferrari ever had star-drivers leave on good terms. Just a matter of time until Leclerc, Sainz or both get shafted.
The shit they pulled with Niki Lauda has to be some next-level douchebaggery. Dude almost dies in a race, they attempt to delay his comeback for petty bullshit reasons, try to turn him away from the team and he still knocks out another championship the next year for their sorry asses.
When they decide to drop your ass, you're most likely going to learn about their decision from a newspaper, these Italians don't even have enough balls to tell their drivers about their intentions.
 
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I want to see laguna seca, not that any of them have suspension approaching what the corkscrew would need.
I'm not familar with US tracks, so I had to look it up.
That corner is simply insane and just imagining a bunch of F1 cars screaming down that hill gives me goosebumps.

Here's an onboard of the 2003 Ferrari setting a new record for fastest lap during a test:


That drop into the corkscrew is just surreal.

2nd Edit: Geez. Crashes in that corner are terrible. If that racetrack would host an F1 race, I think some changes would be needed.
 
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