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That was kind of to be expected with his post-season vacation, but he'll be fine. I like when people comment "I'll save my sympathy for the poor health care workers that have to deal with the consequences of his vacation", like he's not just going to chill out in Monaco for a couple weeks.
 
3 articles for your reading pleasure, new calendar, testing change, RedBull engine saga.

2021 F1 calendar​

The first draft of the 2021 F1 calendar was published by Formula 1 on November 10th 2020.

It followed a heavily disrupted 2020 season in which many races were cancelled or postponed due to the global pandemic. Covid-19 continued to force F1 to adapt its schedule, and the first changes were announced in January of the new year.

The races in Australia, which was due to hold the season-opener, and China, originally the venue for the third round of the championship, were delayed. While Australia was given a new date in November, with knock-on changes to other races around the same time, the Chinese race was not immediately rescheduled.

An additional race at Imola in Italy was announced to take the place of China’s early-season slot. The original calendar also included a race at an undetermined venue, which remains to be confirmed.

The 73rd running of the world championship will also see the addition of a new race in Saudi Arabia on the streets of Jeddah. The Dutch Grand Prix, which was supposed to return at Zandvoort in 2020 but fell foul of the pandemic, was confirmed for a September date.
However other new races the sport aspired to hold in Miami, USA and Hanoi, Vietnam were not confirmed.

2021 F1 calendar of races​

RoundCircuitDate
1Bahrain International CircuitMar 26-28
2ImolaApr 16-18
3TBC [LNS says...Turkey]Apr 30-May 2
4Circuit de CatalunyaMay 7-9
5MonacoMay 20-23
6Baku City CircuitJun 4-6
7Circuit Gilles VilleneuveJun 11-13
8Paul RicardJun 25-27
9Red Bull RingJul 2-4
10SilverstoneJul 16-18
11HungaroringJul 30-Aug 1
12Spa-FrancorchampsAug 27-29
13ZandvoortSep 3-5
14MonzaSep 10-12
15Sochi AutodromSep 24-26
16SingaporeOct 1-3
17SuzukaOct 8-10
18Circuit of the AmericasOct 22-24
19Autodromo Hermanos RodriguezOct 29-31
20InterlagosNov 5-7
21Albert ParkNov 19-21
22JeddahDec 3-5
23Yas MarinaDec 10-12
SOURCE: https://www.racefans.net/2021-f1-season/2021-f1-calendar/

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F1 to move pre-season testing from Spain to Bahrain​

2021 F1 season​

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12th January 2021, 13:07 | Written by Dieter Rencken and Keith Collantine

Formula 1 teams have agreed to delay and relocate pre-season testing, RaceFans understands. The move comes as changes were announced to the opening rounds of the new season.

A revised 2021 F1 calendar was revealed today. The Australian Grand Prix has been postponed from mid-March to November, making the Bahrain Grand Prix on March 28th the first race of the new season.

Teams have therefore agreed to delay pre-season testing, which was due to take place at the Circuit de Catalunya at the beginning of the month. It will now be held in Bahrain from March 12th-14th. Last year’s pre-season tests were concluded by the end of February.

Bahrain last held pre-season test sessions in 2014, which followed another test at Jerez in Spain. While testing in Spain offers the advantage of being closer to the teams’ bases, weather conditions at the desert track are more reliable and predictable.

Teams will have just three days of running with their new cars ahead of the season, compared to six last year. However their cars are expected to be substantially similar to those raced last year as the technical regulations are largely unchanged and a ‘token’ system has been introduced limiting how far teams can alter their previous designs.
SOURCE: https://www.racefans.net/2021/01/12/f1-to-move-pre-season-testing-from-spain-to-bahrain/
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RED BULL CLOSING ON HONDA ENGINE DEAL WITH FRESH FREEZE TALKS​

6 hours ago
By Scott Mitchell

Renewed discussions over an early Formula 1 engine development freeze mean Red Bull is closing on a deal to take over Honda’s engine from 2022 onwards.

Honda is leaving F1 at the end of this year, leaving its partners Red Bull and AlphaTauri in need of an alternative engine supply.

The preferred solution outlined months ago is for Red Bull to take over Honda’s products and information and maintain the engines itself with a beefed-up facility in Milton Keynes and most likely some third-party support.

Red Bull and Honda have fostered a strong relationship during their partnership, which began in earnest with a visit by senior Red Bull personnel to Honda’s Sakura base ahead of the junior team Toro Rosso running Honda engines in 2018.

The strength of this relationship was indicated by the swift revelation from Honda’s F1 project leader Masashi Yamamoto to The Race that supporting a plan for Red Bull to take over the engines beyond 2021 was realistic.

Private discussions between Red Bull and Honda took place to establish the specifics of their arrangement but the bigger issue for Red Bull has been to negotiate with rivals over the engine freeze, which would protect Red Bull from taking on development requirements during 2022.

Red Bull has insisted for some time that it is unable to foot the bill or have the technical capacity to develop the Honda power unit, which is being heavily revised for this year already, and can only maintain the V6 turbo-hybrid engine.

Under the current rules, manufacturers would be allowed to develop their power units between the end of 2021 and the end of 2022, which would give Mercedes, Renault and Ferrari an opportunity to gain performance vs the 2021 Honda carry-over.

The negotiation process has spilled into this year despite claims from Red Bull it needed to be resolved by November, and then December.

The Race understands it is back on the agenda as of this week and at least two parties involved are believed to be confident a resolution is close.

The reason for the delay in getting this finalised is in its complexity. Rival manufacturers have been open to compromise and granting Red Bull the freeze it desires, but some fundamental positions clash.

Ferrari wanted an early next-generation engine (in 2025 rather than 2026) and ‘convergence’ mechanism that would allow a manufacturer with a substantial performance deficit at the point of the freeze a way of bolstering their performance.

The Italian manufacturer is catching up its rival engine makers after a big decrease in performance last year following multiple FIA technical directives, while Red Bull team boss Christian Horner was also in favour of that kind of “safety net”.

Mercedes and Renault were vehemently opposed, going as far as calling it a Balance of Performance-style system and labelling it unnecessary as engine performance has closed up anyway.

While the process of finding common ground within that mess has been dragged out, it is nearing a conclusion.

Meanwhile, Red Bull and Honda’s negotiations are understood to have swiftly moved in a good direction and gained support from Honda in Japan, not just its F1 operation, early in the process.

They established what Red Bull wanted to request from Honda and by the end of 2020 it is believed both parties were largely in agreement, and awaiting news of whether the regulations would be changed.

The freeze was therefore the only factor holding up an engine takeover being formalised as it defined the details and practicalities that Red Bull and Honda would have to consider.

In addition to agreeing that Red Bull will take over part of Honda’s Milton Keynes facility, and expand its own Red Bull Technologies campus as well, it is expected that the takeover plan will include at least some Honda personnel remaining involved beyond 2021.

Yamamoto told The Race in December: “It is very difficult to say suddenly goodbye in the opening race in Melbourne, in 2022, practically.

“I think they will need some kind of support. I’m not sure the length, or how much. But we will support somehow.”
SOURCE: https://the-race.com/formula-1/red-bull-closing-on-honda-engine-deal-with-fresh-freeze-talks/
Saw the name "Paul Ricard" and it didn't ring any bell whatsoever, so I looked it up.

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That track looks completely bonkers with these 3,5 high speed straights. I love it.
 
The Alpine livery is out. No more yellow as it was for Renault.

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Peronally, it looks ok but not amazing. Too many dulled down paint colours in the modern era.
Looks really boring. And I don't get it, don't you want your car to stick out as much as possible by its paintscheme?
So make it bright and visually pleasing.

I still think Benetton had one of the coolest paintjobs:
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Dem white rims, man. I'm not even that much into the color blue, but this just has such a nice blend of blue, light blue, white and a bit of green and yellow. It's just so nice looking.

There was also the Jordan with the snake-head painted on the nose, that was really cool:
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Kinda silly, but I'd love to see someone go for a WW2 plane-like noseart with a shark-mouth. It's kinda cheesy, but in a good way.

AFAIK this is only the winter livery, similar to how Renault had the black livery for testing.
Let's hope so, a few splashes of color never hurt a racecar.
 
Even Eddie "I want me some Hamilton dick" Jordan is getting fed up of the Hamilton wanting the world show. This nonsense is not a good look for Hamilton since its basically certain Merc want him if he's reasonable. Even Hamilton cocksuckers among F1 pundits are turning on him.

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Even Eddie "I want me some Hamilton dick" Jordan is getting fed up of the Hamilton wanting the world show. This nonsense is not a good look for Hamilton since its basically certain Merc want him if he's reasonable. Even Hamilton cocksuckers among F1 pundits are turning on him.

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If this delay in signing a contract is indeed about Hamilton refusing to budge on unreasonable demands, it goes to show that he's every bit as self-absorbed and delusional about his own person as every hamilton-hater says he is. The longer this farce continues, the more obvious it gets. It's not like Mercs don't want him, but they absolutely do not need him for anything. As I have said, having someone like Russel take on his seat and winning races would obliterate Hamilton's reputation while it would increase that of Mercedes as a car manifacturer, whose engineering prowess is the single biggest kingmaker in F1 history. Hamilton's personal achievements mean nothing to them, so they don't give a shit if someone else takes over and they win yet another consecutive WCD title alongside their umpteenth team-title.

But it's certainly nice that someone finally talks straight, one can only hope it'll be the first of many such instances.
 
The main thing they'd face is accusations of racism but about 95 percent of those complaints are gonna be coming from Brits who will take any word of Hamilton as gospel and replacing him with Russell will get Sky F1 to be positive towards the team so most complaints won't last for a month because they get to hear Rule britannia followed by Deutschland über alles with a very high probability every weekend.
 
Grosjean's got the dressings off his hands now. Look pretty nasty but still far better than it could have been.

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Kinda silly, but I'd love to see someone go for a WW2 plane-like noseart with a shark-mouth. It's kinda cheesy, but in a good way.


Let's hope so, a few splashes of color never hurt a racecar.
Say what you will about NASCAR, they do get the paint schemes right with each car being distinct when on track.

Here's your 'shark-mouth', on the #43 of Bubba Wallace in 2019. Similar schemes are run in both NASCAR and IndyCar whenever the US Air Force decides to put themselves on a car - they do pop up in other US/NA series, but predictably less so than the top two.
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Say what you will about NASCAR, they do get the paint schemes right with each car being distinct when on track.

Here's your 'shark-mouth', on the #43 of Bubba Wallace in 2019. Similar schemes are run in both NASCAR and IndyCar whenever the US Air Force decides to put themselves on a car - they do pop up in other US/NA series, but predictably less so than the top two.
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I like that. I like that a lot. Also having the US Navy as a sponsor is pretty badass. Kinda makes me laugh to imagine the shitstorm if the Bundeswehr did the same.

Grosjean's got the dressings off his hands now. Look pretty nasty but still far better than it could have been.

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Holy shit, this looks horrible... The gloves are the weakest part of the suit, but iirc, the rest of his suit was on the brink of what it is designed to take, too. ~10 seconds longer within that cockpit and the rest of his body would look like that, I fear. Even if the suit could have taken those additional seconds, his hands surely would have been irreparably damaged.

Really drives home how close of a call that was, how absurdly lucky he was and how absurdly strong the driver's protection is in modern F1 cars, doesn't it? Dude might be able to return to driving racecars later this year, from an accident that would have been lethal just 3 years ago.
 
Holy shit, this looks horrible... The gloves are the weakest part of the suit, but iirc, the rest of his suit was on the brink of what it is designed to take, too.
Agreed. The FIA introduced thicker driver suits for the 2020 season because they offer better fire protection. Even in the 2019 season it would have been a very different outcome. Those pictures demonstrate why he was worried about losing the movement in his left hand, that index finger knuckle burn can't be far off bone and how his nerves weren't destroyed I don't know.

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Agreed. The FIA introduced thicker driver suits for the 2020 season because they offer better fire protection. Even in the 2019 season it would have been a very different outcome. Those pictures demonstrate why he was worried about losing the movement in his left hand, that index finger knuckle burn can't be far off bone and how his nerves weren't destroyed I don't know.

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Here's food for thought: Before Grosjean, when did we last see an F1 car engulfed in flames? When his accident happened, the only thing that came to my mind was Jos Verstappen's ill-fated pitstop, where a malfunction on the fuel system splashed the enitre car in fuel, which promptly ignited. That was in the early 90s. I don't know if there had been anything more dramatic than a car's engine going up in smoke and even that has become increasingly rare in the past decade...

And still F1 pushed on with their standard and improved it to a point that it had a measurable impact on Grosjean's chance of survival. I don't think FIA is without fail, but I'll be damned if their strife to make F1 as safe as possible isn't utterly impressive.
 
The Hambone cock guzzlers are getting more and more vocal calling mercades racist because apparently if he was white they would give him anything he want to sign him. Then going all about if he isn't there next season they ain't watching. As if half of them ever watched a race before him and wont stop as soon as he leaves. As I've recounted before I have 2 aquatences who are massive Hamilton fanboys, before Hamilton they always asked why the fuck I would waste my weekend watching cars going around in circles.
 
I'm still of the firm belief that they'll work something out and he's gonna drive this year, and I think most people should believe that's the case. It is hard not to believe the rumors that Hamilton wants a lot more than he's worth from Mercedes, however.

Actually fuck it. Kick out Lewis, bring in George and Aitken fills in his seat at Williams. Let's go crazy.
 
I'm still of the firm belief that they'll work something out and he's gonna drive this year, and I think most people should believe that's the case. It is hard not to believe the rumors that Hamilton wants a lot more than he's worth from Mercedes, however.

Actually fuck it. Kick out Lewis, bring in George and Aitken fills in his seat at Williams. Let's go crazy.
I agree with every part of this. With the season fast approaching someone will blink first and I bet it will be mercades even though they don't need him as much as he needs them. The rumours that he wants way more than Daimler will sign off on certainly rings true. I really wish they would go "fuck it" and get Russell in, Hamilton can go to the vacant seat at Williams if he's desperate to stay in the sport, let's see how amazing a driver he is then.
 
I came across another non-english article a few days back about the Hambone contract issue. I wasn't going to bother posting it but since this is becoming a topic of discussion as each day passes without a contract signed, some of you might find it of interest.

Obviously it can't be fully relied on as true, but I can kind of see how it could play out. Who knows if talks have not already been had about/with Max about '22. Maybe Merc is only offering Ham a one year deal and Lewis doesn't want to take it knowing he is either out of Merc or has to retire end of 2021. Whatever the case or situation, it's weird the contract isn't done and dusted as yet, so something is going on.

Regardless, I would be quite happy if Lewis doesn't drive this year, or ever again. He's had his multiple years in the sun, time to go and make clothes or music or vegan burgers now.

Marko could be preparing for a possible departure from Verstappen​

Autosprint journalist Alessandro Gargantini said that Sergio Perez may have gone to Red Bull to cover a possible departure from Max Verstappen. There is a chance that Lewis Hamilton will leave the sport after 2022 and Verstappen could very well take his place at Mercedes.

Since Mercedes has not yet renewed Hamilton's contract, and wants to do so for only one year, and Valtteri Bottas has a contract for 2021 only, that could mean that two places would be vacant in the team in 2022. George Russell is a strong candidate for Bottas, and Verstappen could be the ideal replacement for Hamilton.

So Mercedes would be rejuvenating the team, which now has two of the oldest drivers on the grid. Gargantini see the combination of Verstappen and Russell as a good chance, and also thinks that the counselor of Red Bull, Helmut Marko, want to be one step ahead of the situation.

According to Gargantini, this may be the reason why Perez was named the new Red Bull driver. Perez has nothing to do with the team's training program, but brings with him extensive experience. Should Red Bull lose Verstappen, it would be very good for the team to have someone with Perez's talent and experience.
SOURCE: https://www.f1mania.net/f1/marko-poderia-estar-se-preparando-para-uma-possivel-saida-de-verstappen/
 
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