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Electric rally cross event cancelled after battery fire puts the safety of the electric cars into question.

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Coccxys said:
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There's a video on Nico Rosberg's YT where he features his electric super/hypercar and he wanted to do run it hard immediately and the guy who owns the company wanted to get out of the car in case he Mazespins it and the battery melts them.

So yeah, not even the guy making those things trusted it. TBF, how could he?
 
Things Once Remembered said:
Well cost cap rumors are starting up again, place your bets: who has been spending hella stacks?
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The way this is handled is pretty embarassing. The endless yearly speculation does nothing good for the sport, either increase transparency or tell everybody to shut up until the investigation is done. And stop letting your FIA underlings yap their mouths over lunch with Toto or however they keep leaking this shit.
 
Not At All A Lizard said:
The way this is handled is pretty embarassing. The endless yearly speculation does nothing good for the sport, either increase transparency or tell everybody to shut up until the investigation is done. And stop letting your FIA underlings yap their mouths over lunch with Toto or however they keep leaking this shit.
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Not only that, they should outright say that any monetary penalty will not be payable separately, but will instead be applied as a penalty to next years' cost cap. If teams can pay out of pocket instead of being hit directly on their racing budget they'll continue to try to skirt the rules. If they know that any penalty will be applied to their next budget (albeit with a 1 year gap) they'll perhaps tread more carefully.
 
Quiritium said:
Not only that, they should outright say that any monetary penalty will not be payable separately, but will instead be applied as a penalty to next years' cost cap. If teams can pay out of pocket instead of being hit directly on their racing budget they'll continue to try to skirt the rules. If they know that any penalty will be applied to their next budget (albeit with a 1 year gap) they'll perhaps tread more carefully.
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Fines in general are always a way to let the powers that be solve a problem without having to make a hard decision. You see this in every sport. I agree that having the cost of fines come out of the cost cap definitely wouldn't hurt, but I think the direct competitive punishments they already have (like RBR got) are probably more painful.

Teams will argue that "Look, it didn't hurt them one bit", but ask them to give up any of their windtunnel/sim time and they'd tell you something very different. Red Bull aren't suffering currently because 1) it will probably take more time to have impact, 2) they were far ahead enough that they can take the hit, and 3) they have Adrian Newey who can make a racewinning car with a pen and paper. And of course that was a pretty minor breach, the FIA can totally dock points if it's more serious.
 
Not At All A Lizard said:
Fines in general are always a way to let the powers that be solve a problem without having to make a hard decision. You see this in every sport. I agree that having the cost of fines come out of the cost cap definitely wouldn't hurt, but I think the direct competitive punishments they already have (like RBR got) are probably more painful.

Teams will argue that "Look, it didn't hurt them one bit", but ask them to give up any of their windtunnel/sim time and they'd tell you something very different. Red Bull aren't suffering currently because 1) it will probably take more time to have impact, 2) they were far ahead enough that they can take the hit, and 3) they have Adrian Newey who can make a racewinning car with a pen and paper. And of course that was a pretty minor breach, the FIA can totally dock points if it's more serious.
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Yeah, what I'm advocating is applying the monetary penalties to the cost cap along with current direct development punishments. Not only do you have less development time, you also have less money to try and make up for that deficit in other ways. Make it really hurt if you want teams to be less "creative" with their accounting.
 
Quiritium said:
Yeah, what I'm advocating is applying the monetary penalties to the cost cap along with current direct development punishments. Not only do you have less development time, you also have less money to try and make up for that deficit in other ways. Make it really hurt if you want teams to be less "creative" with their accounting.
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Fuck fines. I say penalize violators in game. Your team broke the rules? Ok. Every race this season, including the ones already finished, you get +30 sec (or more) added to your time. Or just dock points from them.
 
blablabla said:
if you break the cap your results on track should be targeted. the FIA is legit run by a bunch of retards
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Not to mention that wealth and money runs the "sport" at the end of the day and it is corrupt as hell as a result. I wonder what Bernie would do with cost cap violations, someone should ask him, love to hear his thoughts.
 
My problem with the way the cost cap system is set up is that the accounting is like filing corporate taxes. You can spend towards the cap sure but you can apparently get credits on that spending? By the time teams have their accountants put the filing together, the FiA reviews everyone's tax returns, investigates any issues, and audits themselves in triplicate; the season is almost over and there's nothing to be done about it.

If it were any other kind of cheating (DRS gap, showing up with an undeclared engine upgrade, race fixing, ect) you could point at the offense and say "Hey dipshit you got caught" and punish them accordingly. Finances are all too soft and fuzzy. It should be a hard line, either you overspent or you didn't.
 
Sooo, saw the RaceFans nightly wrap summary tweet and saw this:

Mason steps in for Benavides at Spa​

PHM Racing by Charouz have announced 21-year-old driver Joshua Mason will replace Brad Benavides for this weekend’s Formula 2 races at Spa-Francorchamps.

Mason, who has F3 experience in British F3 and EuroFormula Open, has one win in both this year’s EuroFormula Open season and the Formula Regional Oceania series at the start of the year. He replaces Benavides, who has not scored a point this season.

“It’s a mix of emotions – excited, nervous and all the emotions are flowing through,” said Mason. “To jump into Formula 2 around Spa in the wet means there’s quite a lot being thrown at me, but I’m looking forward to get started.”
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Ok, so what you might say. Well, you might think wow, a guy who has never raced in the official F3 series (only the regional forms of F3) has gotten the call to F2, ahead of many drivers who are currently racing in F3. You might think why one of them did not get the nod over this Joshua Mason fellow. He must be a super talent and like another Max that he is good enough to make such a lofty leap.

Well no. He sucks pretty badly. But he is a nigger.
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Watch out brothers, someone could be in the background using various means and trying to get the next spook into F1 to cry apartheid and replace King Spook when Lewis finally fucks off. I thought he faded into obscurity after last season when he sucked balls in the EuroFormula Open championship and this season he wasn't doing anything fantastic in the 2 series he was racing.

So, gonna be a bit of sweat for awhile cause if he does get some results in F2 and noticed (more importantly starts getting heavy backing) given he is getting this lofty F2 chance when he has never appeared in F3, is worrisome. I read the new blurb there as him replacing the Benavides guy for rest of season. Anyway, do we want another jungle bunny shitting up F1 for 15 years again? Its not out of the question.

Sorry for bringing potentially bad news, but better to have it on your radar so you dont get shocked if he suddenly does a Free Practice in F1 or something. Hopefully he will continue trend and be shit this weekend. If they even race, which is another story that may unfold over the weekend as I think I saw rain is expected and with Hubert and van'T Hoff dying at Spa, we may get no racing at all.

Also Mekies leaving Ferrari for AT: https://www.racefans.net/2023/07/27/ferrari-confirm-mekies-departure-ahead-of-move-to-alphatauri/
 
You can push these people up, but ultimately f1 is enough of a meritocracy that all it does is embarrass them. Especially in the current year with cars being as close as they are, and likely only to get closer. I'm sure a black dude will get a big sponsor and seat, and eventually a woman or tranny too, but they'll just be Latifi or Mazepin.

And if you're not the first black guy to do something the media can't go on about it either. So thank Pewis Pamilton for that taking all of that for himself.
 
Hey, I'll take a GOATifi anyday, even if it is a femoid or a tranny. I want that element of absolute chaos back to spice things up. Just imagine how glorious Hungary could've been with a late race GOATifi crash to fuck up the whole standings. Might have fucked up Lando and Oscar's races to my dismay, but it would be very entertaining. Sargent is being quite the disappointment this season, only small spins.
 
There’s just something great about qualifying in the wet. Haas really does make the dumbest moves, eliminating Hulk by not giving him enough time to get an out lap. Riccardo’s lap deserved deletion, wasn’t even close to being in.

Edit: Max potentially got saved by Ocon not being out there at the end.
 
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