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Before Hamilton exits motor-racing, I would dearly love to see him reconnect with his enthusiasm for the sport in another series. I don't want to remember him as the unhappy, rudderless character he has become.
I've posted this before, but it's worth watching again.


I miss the old Lewis Hamilton.
He'll fuck off to some cushy NGO role where he gets money delivered in dump trucks to say "not nuff blacks" about whatever topic they want him to this week.
As well as a part-time gig on Sky F1. Of course he won't be commentating every race; just the ones where he can safely virtue signal without fear of being called out on it. So no trips to sandy Middle Eastern shitholes or anywhere even slightly based such as Brazil or Russia (once Russia is back on the menu again).
 
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There remains the dangling carrot of an eighth world championship but is that realistic without sticking a knife in Russell's back? And are Mercedes still prepared to do that now that the bloom is off the Hamilton rose? He could change teams, but who among the frontrunners would have him? If you were in charge of one of the three top teams in F1 and could bring a former world champion on board - anyone from Alonso up to the present day - where would Hamilton be on your list? He underperforms. He's temperamental, stroppy and entitled. Besides his formidable legacy, he brings very little.
I think age has likely caught up with Hamilton and I previously said that 2023 was the last chance he had of being a WDC, as I thought by 2024 and beyond, Russell would be too quick for him.

With how strong Redbull are now, it may not be till the new engines come in in 2026, that they no longer have the best car.

As for Hamilton moving to another team and winning a WDC again, whilst I see this as unlikely, the only team that this has a chance of happening, is Ferrari in 2024.

LeClerc can swap with Hamo, or Sainz get be given the boot.
 
LeClerc can swap with Hamo, or Sainz get be given the boot.
They'd never do either of those. Leclerc is their boi, they've brought him through junior series and very quickly established they were backing him over his much more experienced team mate. Sainz is ferrari idea of a good number 2, will grab points and pick up the pieces when Leclerc is fucked over either by fate or their own strategy department.

Even if they did eject either of those (or they left which ferrari money says they probably wont) they probably wouldn't make a move for hambone. He has had this air of being bigger than the team since he entered the sport and thats only gotten worse, if any team wouldn't accept that shit it would be ferrari.

As I said previously look st the drivers over a weekend, all of them bar hambone will be milling around in team caps and tops. Hambone is busy playing at propping up some probably money laundering "designers". How many other sponsors would accept the "main" driver of a team they sponsor wandering round without a single logo on them?
 

How F1 managed to shake off it's 'bro-y and hyper-masculine' past to capture a new generation of fans​

by Tom Maddocks
Posted 36m ago
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Scout Boxall is part of a new generation of F1 fans.(Chris Le Page)

By their own admission, Scout Boxall is not your typical Formula 1 fan.

Key points:​

  • A legion of new fans have been drawn to F1 by the Netflix documentary series Drive To Survive
  • The number of female fans at the Melbourne Grand Prix last year was up by 14 per cent compared to 2019
  • The F1 Academy will launch next month with a view to offering a new all-female, junior-level racing class
"I think I've carefully cultivated this persona of being a lactose-intolerant leftie that can't drive," Boxall said.

The Melbourne comedian never thought they would become so consumed by fast cars that the sport would feature in their stand-up routine.

"So I am politically diametrically opposed to it but when the cars go that fast," they grinned to the audience at the Sydney Comedy Festival late last year.

"They go 320 kilometres an hour … and every time they go that fast I'm overwhelmed by this latent toxic male urge to punch through some drywall, then scoop out the little dry bits and eat 'em."

Their show featured a rap about Max Verstappen that is far too rude to describe here. Let's just say Scout isn't Verstappen's number-one supporter.

"I thought it was a very, like, inaccessible sport to me. It seemed very 'bro-y', like hyper-masculine," they told ABC Sport.

But during lockdown, their perception of the sport turned on its head.

Like many, Scout binged Drive to Survive, a high-octane documentary series that has brought the human drama of the sport to screen, converting new audiences to fans.

"It's cracked my whole world open. I love it so much. I'm so obsessed with it," Boxall said.

"I have Formula 1 merchandise. I know words like understeer and lock-up and tyre marbling."

Columnist Kate Halfpenny has spent much of her media career writing about celebrities and was drawn into the world of F1 through the stories of the drivers.

"To have found F1 this late in my life, it's safe to say I've been blindsided by my obsession with it," said Halfpenny, the founder of Bad Mother Media.

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Kate Halfpenny is the founder of Bad Mother Media and said she was "blindsided" by her new F1 fandom. (Scott Jewell)

Halfpenny admitted to being a sports nut but always found F1 "noisy and a little bit pointless" until a friend recommended the documentary.

"This is a sport which is very much about the fastest cars in the world and how to make them," she said.

"It's super technical. We know that it's about a lot of money, and it's about gas-guzzling machines.

"But at the heart of it, it's actually about these extraordinary athletes — and there are only 20 every year — and it's about these men who go to work every week and are prepared to die."

No more 'ladies day' as women crave cars​

The face of the sport is changing.

Between the 2019 and 2022 Grands Prix in Melbourne, the proportion of female attendees grew from 24 to 38 per cent, according to the Australian Grand Prix Corporation.

That proportion was even greater for women aged between 18 and 34. That trend is expected to continue this weekend.

"We saw more women and girls turning up and we can't deny Netflix had a big effect on that," said the corporation's brand manager, Lani Evans.

"I think Netflix really helped really showcase the personalities behind the sport and now everyone has their favourite driver.

"So it's our job to then encourage our event."

This year, Mercedes canned Ladies Day because women didn't want to head to the track unless there were F1 cars (they don't feature on Thursday when the lunch was traditionally held).

"It's nice that Mercedes have actually seen the stats on the growth of females and their interest in F1," Evans said.

"They are now offering a product that is equal to everyone."

As the shift continues, organisers are considering how to cater for their new fanbase.

"Before we probably had to do a lot more outside of the sport itself to entice females to come to the event," said Evans.

"But now I think with those personalities shining through in our content, as well as Drive to Survive, they have that emotional connection.

"So that's definitely changed … how we target the event."

Halfpenny believed it would be a bad PR move if the Grand Prix Corporation failed to take advantage of its burgeoning new following.

"I remember when my kids were little it was very much the dads who were taking the sons along to F1," Halfpenny said.

"And you don't see that anymore. If you rock up to the Formula 1 grand prix in Melbourne, you'll see stacks of women, you'll see little girls.

"It's a new captive audience and certainly from a branding perspective, there's money to be made."

A new era for female drivers​

Men dominate Drive to Survive, which makes the interest from an audience other than men even more compelling.

Women spoke for only about 6 minutes in season five, which ran for more than 6.5 hours in total, according to research by advocacy group Females in Motorsport.

"There's key people within the Formula 1 industry and landscape who are women, but there's just so few in comparison to all the men around," said Boxall.

"At the end of the day, you're watching men drive cars but you're mostly just watching people that you've become very invested in.

"I just really wish there was some women on the grid."

While the series might not be representative in that sense, the sport is experiencing a shift.

The F1 Academy is set to launch next month, offering a new all-female, junior-level racing class designed to give the world's best female drivers the chance to reach the top of the sport.

Remarkably, a woman hasn't competed in a Formula 1 grand prix since 1976.

Boxall hoped the sport embraces its new followers.
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"I think there are definitely initiatives coming from top down and also coming from notable drivers and from notable teams that have tried to make it a more gender-inclusive space," they said.

"Lewis Hamilton races with a pride rainbow flag on his helmet."

"So I think there is this kind of cultural shift in terms of where the sport is going.

"Some of the fans, particularly of Max Verstappen … a lot of those guys who are not used to having women in their car space can be pretty yuck and not behave very well."

"I think if Formula 1 as a whole, and as a fan base, can come to terms with the fact that more and more women are into this motorsport — and that's a good thing for the sport — then I think a lot of those attitudes will change.

"And I think we'll see more women in the garages, more women behind the computers, more women, hopefully, in cars on the track, and more women in the grandstands."

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The absolute state of the F1 fandom in current year. Fuck DTS to the moon.
 
I am old and this is honestly the first time in my life I have been told I wasn't 'allowed' or 'supposed' to like Formula 1. This is legit brand new information to me.
 
To the surprise of no one that f1 Elly girl who is a “f1 social media influencer” who rb hired is now going into of
 
How F1 managed to shake off it's 'bro-y and hyper-masculine' past to capture a new generation of fans
Nice post, thanks I think! LOL You heading to the GP, you're in AUS are you not man?

Anyway, that article ties in with what I just saw on Twit:

Pollock confirms he is planning a return to F1 with new ‘equal-gender’ team​

Posted on 28th March 2023, 15:14 | Written by Keith Collantine

Former British American Racing Formula 1 team principal Craig Pollock has confirmed he plans to return to the sport with a new team in 2026.

Earlier this year the FIA opened applications for new teams to enter F1 in 2025, 2026 or 2027. Pollock plans to submit an application for his new project, named Formula Equal.

He intends the team to include an even split between genders at all levels. “The concept and the idea was to try and build a F1 team, 50% male, 50% female, which is extremely hard to do if you have an existing F1 team,” he told CNN. “It’s a lot easier with a clean sheet of paper.”

The FIA previously indicated it will confirm at the end of next month which if any prospective new F1 teams have been selected. Among the criteria they will be judged on is “considerations of sustainability, EDI (Equality, Diversity, and Inclusion), and societal benefit”.

The backing for Pollock’s project is rumoured to come from Saudi Arabia, which joined the F1 calendar in 2021 with a race in Jeddah. The country is keen to increase its involvement in motorsport and has also hosted Formula E and the Dakar cross-country rally in recent years.

The president of the country’s motorsport federation, Prince Khalid Bin Sultan Al Faisal, said in January he is keen to attract teams to the country. Pollock said he is planning the “first F1 team that is truly outside of Europe”.

“This has to be built from the bottom up in a Gulf state and this is what we are aiming to do,” he said. “This is a long-term project – this is not short-term.”
Regarding the source of his funding, Pollock said his company is “in intense discussions” with “a Gulf area country”.

Pollock previously managed 1997 F1 champion Jacques Villeneuve. He formed the BAR team, backed by British American Tobacco, which entered the world championship in 1999 with Villeneuve as one of its two drivers. Pollock was replaced at the head of the team at the end of their third season of competition.
 
Nice post, thanks I think! LOL You heading to the GP, you're in AUS are you not man?
Not this year. I live a fair distance away from Melbourne. Last time I went was pre-COVID.
im all in for a female driver into f1. lets bring the chad and see how she goes.
The thing is that genuinely competitive female racing drivers are pretty rare. We're due for another soon, though.
 
I wonder what they mean by 50/50 men and women. Is that in every position on the team? If so, I'm wondering who is going to actually build the damn car. Where are they going to find enough women to replace half the mechanics and pit crew?
 
I wonder what they mean by 50/50 men and women. Is that in every position on the team? If so, I'm wondering who is going to actually build the damn car. Where are they going to find enough women to replace half the mechanics and pit crew?
What I wanna know, if that reasoning is accurate, who the lady behind the wheel is gonna be! LOL Drivers are a "position" in every team. Imagine also a half female pit crew.
 
Can't wait for the nail biting "will the diversity team beat the 107% time". Should make Q1 more entertaining.

I'm not a fan of this "must add more teams" idea. 20-22 cars feel about right. Any more and it's just a game of adding congestion in qualifying and more blue flag fodder for front runners. It's been a while since we've had a real train wreck team (even the worst these days are less than 2s behind) and I can live without a 5+ second joke team.

I suppose we just need to see which unbacked F2 driver wants the F1 drive enough to get on the horse piss. Will Tiktum take one for the team (plus no one could ever criticise the stunning and brave trailblazer, the deliberate running that other driver off the road was justified because he probably misgendered her).
 
The DIE team are going to have women in administrative positions with a few visible ones for PR. It'll still be men doing the actual important stuff. Calling it now.
 
Ferrari doing well and lewlew struggling? Can't have that hit them with a TD.

All the new designs are based on the TF but merc are going for a redesign? Withdraw the TD.

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If the new merc comes along and blitzs the field based on making a new design that would have been illegal under the TD then the sport is truly dead and they just want to hand it to diversity boy.
 
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Doubtful. The TD was just the basis which led to the rule changes for 2023. Merc is still struggling to find out what exactly happened though there were stories that they used wrong models or data in their windtunnel. And the budget cap limits your time to develop. Unless of course you cheat by using "external companies" which are totally not connected to your team

Also I just read that Ferrari will dirch the "bathtubs side pods" from Imola onwards. Let's see how this goes. hopefully they will figure out what went wrong for a 2024 restart
 
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