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In case you don't know, Macau is an invitational F3 race on a track that makes Monaco seem like Monza. People like Ayrton Senna and David Coulthard have won it before they went to F1. It's usually a pretty good way to see which drivers do well on that knife-fight of a track. And I doubt neither Monaco or Indy want to move from the same day they race. Though that's part of the allure of that weekend because you get two very different kinds of races that require elite-level skills to win.
I think back in the old days winning the Macau Grand Prix was basically the entry ticket to F1. Schumacher also won that race in 1990 and in 1991 his F1 career began His brother won in 1995 and he also ended in F1.
 
So, Tsunoda received a 10 place grid penalty after what happened in Zandvoort.
Not for any kind of fuckery with the race as Luise-simps would suggest or for stopping his car unsafely as others might like to claim, but rather for loosening his safetybelts and then driving to the pits after his mechanics found out the tyres were fitted properly.

It's a damn shame his differential broke and ended his race. It wasn't a particularly impressive one, but still... I just want to see a successful Japanese driver, only to see Japanese fans go fucking crazy.
 
Not that anyone cares because no one watches it, but Extreme E, due to lobbying from Hamilton, is adding a sixth mechanic position for each team for someone who is "female, minority ethnic, or from a lower socio-economic background":

Extreme E launches Racing for All initiative​

September 5, 2022

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Extreme E is pleased to announce the launch of its new Racing for All initiative, informed by the findings of The Hamilton Commission, which will create opportunities for a new generation of mechanical and engineering talent to join the world’s most radical off-road electric racing series.

Through The Hamilton Commission’s report – Accelerating Change: Improving Representation of Black People in UK Motorsport – which was published last year, and programmes such as the FIA’s Girls on Track programme, Extreme E is aware of the substantial barriers of opportunity and bias that exist throughout the motorsport talent pipeline, from primary school age to those already in the industry. Identifying an opportunity to have real impact, the series has been working with some of those behind these initiatives, including Extreme E team owner Sir Lewis Hamilton, to develop an action-based programme that will have a tangible effect on addressing some of those barriers.

Extreme E teams are limited to just five mechanics or engineers each to help reduce overall attendance numbers across the Championship, but the Racing for All initiative provides an additional position for a sixth member to join each team to gain hands-on experience. This position is open to those with less than one year’s professional motorsport experience, to enable them to learn exactly what it takes to be part of a professional race team, providing a first step on the career ladder in a very competitive industry.

As a sport for purpose series which seeks to accelerate cultural and behavioural change, Racing for All supports the founding ethos of Extreme E, which is inspire positive action. The programme aims to reduce barriers and attract those who might not otherwise be able to have this opportunity, with particularly those who are female, minority ethnic, or from a lower socio-economic background, encouraged to apply. Extreme E is working with consultants from EqualEngineers in their goal to educate its teams on inclusive recruitment processes which ensure all applicants are welcome and considered.

Lewis Hamilton, Seven-Time Formula 1 World Champion and Team Owner of Extreme E Team X44, said: “We know from the findings of The Hamilton Commission that our industry is a tough place to break into, particularly for those from underrepresented backgrounds, which is why it’s so important that the Racing for All programme will be creating genuine opportunities for the next generation.

“When I first discussed the idea of creating a programme with Alejandro and the Extreme E team, we all agreed that it had to be something which led to real change, and I believe Racing for All does just that. I’m so excited to see this program adopted across the paddock, and I can’t wait to see what the first group of Racing for All candidates goes on to achieve.” Alejandro Agag, Founder and CEO of Extreme E, said: “We are delighted to launch the Racing for All initiative. We are fully supportive of the findings of The Hamilton Commission and are working with our teams to provide a clear path for the brilliant engineers and mechanics of the future, who may not so readily have the opportunities to succeed. Our goal is for Racing for All to instil an inclusive mindset and a wider recruitment pipeline which enables the next generation of race mechanics and engineers to reach the highest levels of motorsport, regardless of factors such as race, gender or social economic status, and reduce the barriers which exist for certain communities.”

Extreme E has been working with its teams, who, with support from the series, will ultimately select and manage their own candidates and integrate them into their team set ups. The Racing for All team member opportunity is open now, with the majority of the paddock indicating that they are actively starting their hiring processes ahead of Season 3.

In July 2020, Sir Lewis Hamilton launched The Hamilton Commission, alongside the Royal Academy of Engineering (RAE), to research and understand why underrepresentation persists within the UK motorsport industry and look for ways to address this lack of representation.The final report provided ten recommendations that the Commission believe will help to improve the representation of Black people in UK motorsport, which was based around three key strands of action – Support and Empowerment, Accountability and Measurement, and Inspiration and Engagement.

The Commission has called on all in leadership roles across motorsport to take personal responsibility for driving measurable progress on diversity and inclusion, to provide equity of access and experience for all underrepresented groups, and as an enabler of organisational success.

Dr Mark McBride-Wright CEng, Founder and CEO of EqualEngineers, said: “Extreme E presents a fantastic opportunity for the engineering sector to help encourage individuals from underrepresented backgrounds who will lead future changes in technological innovation, and also themselves become our future leaders.

“Extreme E is looking to break the boundaries of traditional motorsports, and that is something which we fully support. We welcome the action-focused mindset and we look forward to supporting them and their teams as the championship develops.”

As a sport designed with purpose at its heart, Extreme E seeks to inspire and empower all individuals, from all backgrounds, to be a part of motorsport, providing equal opportunity between genders and across cultures. This includes encouraging diversity in the teams and drivers, aiming to remove inequality and barriers to access that diverse communities face in motorsport.

Nico Rosberg, 2016 Formula 1 World Champion Team Owner of Rosberg X Racing, said: “Extreme E’s commitment to environmental and social matters was the main draw for us to join the series and I am excited to see another progressive initiative come to fruition, aiming at removing barriers to motorsport. It is a sport that lives from different experiences, backgrounds, views and skills, so we all benefit from welcoming more diverse talent into our team.“

Jenson Button, 2009 Formula 1 World Champion and Team Owner of Extreme E Team JBXE, said: “With all my years in motorsport, I’ve seen first-hand just how vital the push for equality in motorsport and engineering is so it is encouraging to see Extreme E making this issue such a priority. Everyone, no matter what their gender, race, or background, should be able to get involved, and Racing for All will be huge step towards making this the norm.”

Extreme E has already seized the initiative in integrating the next generation of young talent into its paddock, with a focus on STEM subjects and engineering. During the recent NEOM Island X Prix double-header in Sardinia, Extreme E worked with McLaren Racing to recruit four female Student Ambassadors to its Championship team.

Leena Gade, Senior Principal Race Engineer at NEOM McLaren XE Team, added: “I am delighted that Extreme E is doing their bit to help widen opportunities to people from underrepresented backgrounds in motorsport. Diversity is so important to bring together different ideas and perspectives to help us innovate and be better at what we do.

“Racing for All will give these young people vital experience and exposure, setting them up for their futures. Everyone at McLaren Racing cannot wait to see the impact this has on the series and the wider industry.
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I hope Danny gets a seat in Indycar then, he would fit that series well.
This goes to show how dumb he was to turn down Mclaren's seat. They offered him one. I guess Andretti will have an open seat next to RoGro, Kirkwood and the Canadian Pay Driver.
 
Thank you to the People's Republic of China and Top Tier Driver Guanyu Zhou for your generous internet hosting! Chairman Mao will always be the enlightened leader of the people. Lucas Roberts will never be a woman.
Alpine and Red Bull have reached terms for Gastly dependant on Herta being given an exemption by the FIA to drive for AT.
I'm of the opinion that they should not grant him an exemption. You made the rules, stick to them. Your rules are proven to be stupid and keep out a guy who everyone knows has the skill to compete? Change your rules then. Bending them to satisfy a team/sponsors/demographics makes your series a joke.

And, honestly, if God forbid the FIA grants him an exception...I'm rooting for him to fail, if just because I want it to blow up in their faces and show them why you stick to your own rules that you made. F1 does not need American drivers. I'd rather they stay home and improve the local series.
 
I'm of the opinion that they should not grant him an exemption. You made the rules, stick to them. Your rules are proven to be stupid and keep out a guy who everyone knows has the skill to compete? Change your rules then. Bending them to satisfy a team/sponsors/demographics makes your series a joke.
I agree that Herta shouldn't get an individual exemption, but there is no real reason for F2 to grant more superlicense points than Indycar.
 
Ricciardo is ruling out anything but F1 even if it means a reserve driver position instead.

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In other news sky are still pushing the Hamilton totally had a chance to win angle, I would also like to know how a VSC is a "free pitstop". Of course we all know exactly where the hateful morons in the sport come from.

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Lewis fans, the Keffals Krew of F1. "It's not us, IT'S THEEEEEMMMMM."

And.... Ugh. Ric's probably right in that I don't think in modern F1 you will come back if you leave, but I don't really think he's going to come back after this anyway, the way the top tier's so youth-focused now.
 
And.... Ugh. Ric's probably right in that I don't think in modern F1 you will come back if you leave, but I don't really think he's going to come back after this anyway, the way the top tier's so youth-focused now.
Hambone is out of contract end of next season. Unlikely but would be great if they got rid of that douch and hired someone actually likable.
 
There's a point where your best mate is supposed to take you to one side and tell you with as much tact as they can muster that the dream is over. In hindsight somebody should have done that to Kubica

I think Ricciardo has reached that point in his F1 career.

There are younger drivers hammering on the door. Teams that want someone with experience are probably also looking for consistency. No matter what he says, I think he's hit the ceiling of his potential and I don't his heart is it anymore. There is not really anything to be gained from staying on, beside a paycheque.

There is more to motor sport than F1.
 
There's a point where your best mate is supposed to take you to one side and tell you with as much tact as they can muster that the dream is over. In hindsight somebody should have done that to Kubica

I think Ricciardo has reached that point in his F1 career.

There are younger drivers hammering on the door. Teams that want someone with experience are probably also looking for consistency. No matter what he says, I think he's hit the ceiling of his potential and I don't his heart is it anymore. There is not really anything to be gained from staying on, beside a paycheque.

There is more to motor sport than F1.
I keep saying it: He'd have so much more fun over here. You got a kick out of driving Dale's car, Daniel. How about becoming his kid's drinking buddy? Buying a vintage stock car of your own? Hell, going and racing stock cars. Or running the 500. You wanna be a lovable goofball driver? We do that here.
 
Thank you to the People's Republic of China and Top Tier Driver Guanyu Zhou for your generous internet hosting! Chairman Mao will always be the enlightened leader of the people. Lucas Roberts will never be a woman.

I'm of the opinion that they should not grant him an exemption. You made the rules, stick to them. Your rules are proven to be stupid and keep out a guy who everyone knows has the skill to compete? Change your rules then. Bending them to satisfy a team/sponsors/demographics makes your series a joke.

And, honestly, if God forbid the FIA grants him an exception...I'm rooting for him to fail, if just because I want it to blow up in their faces and show them why you stick to your own rules that you made. F1 does not need American drivers. I'd rather they stay home and improve the local series.
But their rules are fucking arcane and bullshit. And they contradict themselves all the time. If this was the first time exceptions were being made or the rules being interpreted outside the lines, then sure, let them have it.

The fact that a 6 time Indycar winner needs to prove he can drive an F1 car is insane.
Roy Nissany has had 9 FP1 outings. If he's allowed in an F1 car around other F1 drivers than anyone should be eligible.
The FIAs anti-American or any other series of racing bias is bullshit.


I think Andretti has a solid plan here though. Let him get his seat time somewhere else, and then stick him as the lead driver in their team come 2026 (hopefully).
 
Yeah that was a bummer. I might not agree with his idolization of Lewis but kid got robbed by his favorite driver being shitty.

If you had, say, a Cup driver over here skipping out on meeting an up and coming kart kid he had an obligation to be around because his feefees were hurt he would be flayed alive by the fans.
 
If you had, say, a Cup driver over here skipping out on meeting an up and coming kart kid he had an obligation to be around because his feefees were hurt he would be flayed alive by the fans.
If it were literally any other F1 driver they would have been. There would have been severe punishments for the little unsporting tantrum he and Mercedes threw. If it were Vestappen they would have thrown the book at him with race bans or outright disqualification from the championship.

In the past the likes of Balestre or Bernie would have destroyed the driver that dared to do that shit. Like end of career destroyed. The FIA and FOM have become so weak during the last decade and that power gap has been filled by Toto and co.

Instead of any real punishment he got a tiny fine that he refused to pay unless he decided where it was spent by the FIA, who bent the knee and let him.
 
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I think Andretti has a solid plan here though. Let him get his seat time somewhere else, and then stick him as the lead driver in their team come 2026 (hopefully).
I'm (perhaps irrationally) worried that the FIA is going to wrap Herta up in the politics of Andretti trying to enter. They'll waive the requirements and let him in, but only if Andretti drops the attempt to entry and gets Mario to shut up about it. With the FIA so dead set on only 20 teams, maybe Andretti could try to buy out AT?
Yeah that was a bummer. I might not agree with his idolization of Lewis but kid got robbed by his favorite driver being shitty.

If you had, say, a Cup driver over here skipping out on meeting an up and coming kart kid he had an obligation to be around because his feefees were hurt he would be flayed alive by the fans.
Danica got shit on by NASCAR fans for being a massive cunt that confronted people heckling her, and blowing off fans. Especially little girls covered head to toe in Danica gear.


Edit: Almost forgot. Fuck troons I just want to laugh at retards and bitch about cars going vroom.
 
I'm (perhaps irrationally) worried that the FIA is going to wrap Herta up in the politics of Andretti trying to enter. They'll waive the requirements and let him in, but only if Andretti drops the attempt to entry and gets Mario to shut up about it. With the FIA so dead set on only 20 teams, maybe Andretti could try to buy out AT?

Danica got shit on by NASCAR fans for being a massive cunt that confronted people heckling her, and blowing off fans. Especially little girls covered head to toe in Danica gear.


Edit: Almost forgot. Fuck troons I just want to laugh at retards and bitch about cars going vroom.
Yeah, that's what I'm getting at. The cup fanbase will castigate a driver because they saw them blowin' off a kid wanting a diecast signed once. This would've been next level.

And this is ABSOLUTELY getting tied up in the Andretti politics. They're forming a firewall, for monetary and political reasons.
 
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