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The reddit seeth and cope is just glorious. They seem to think is Russell stayed out he would have held max enough for hambone to win. In reality he would have drove around Russell at the restart then nuked hambone the next time around. The only way it would have worked is for Hambone to know what's going on and make a strategy call himself.
 
The Grognard said:
That was a weird-ass race.
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It really did swing backwards and forwards.

The commentator/Reddit seething about a perfectly normal event in F1 is just ridiculous. SC/VSCs happen, they have allowed cheap pitstops since forever and having to rewarm everything after going slow has always been a thing. But apparently it suddenly needs looking at and changing now.
 
I sat through the whole thing, and I have no idea if it was a good race or not.

I'd say it was a perfect 5/10, but that's heavily lifted by the safety car. Everything else before it really didn't have a lot of highlights.
 
It was a pretty slow burn race with strategies looking like they would be coming together at the end to create a bit of a battle which then became a frantic rethink with the VSC and SC. With a fairly insufferable commentary track layered over it because of who one of the drivers was.

Ultimately I don't think Hambone was on for the win, maybe 2nd but Max showed he could be silly fast when necessary on the track.

I can't believe the commentators were saying Russell could have taken both mercs off there when it was hambone's erratic jink coming off a fast corner onto a straight that almost crashed them both out.
 
Max Verstappen on fresher soft tires right behind him on a SC when he has older harder tires is what keeps Lewis Hamilton awake at night now I suppose.
 
Also Dutch fans be trollin

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Croft was absolutely insufferable.
The only shot Lewis ever had at winning this race was staying on the Hards and nursing them to the end. That disappeared as soon as the SC happened.

Even on softs, it would have been a Merc 2/3 at best. Max would have had them sooner or later, even if there was a 15 second gap between them. My favourite part about the whole thing was how they talked for like 5 minutes straight on Merc holding Max back, only for George to pit and Lewis to be dumped at the earliest possible point where a driver can be legally overtaken.

Well done to George for taking the initiative and deciding to go for Softs, securing 2nd place and getting his own back for what the team did to him back in Austria.

Great weekend for Alonso, 13th up to 6th. Could have been 5th if he didn't let Lando squeeze him off that one lap, but a magnificent result nonetheless, and now marks the ninth consecutive race he has scored points, tying both Mercs in that regard. The only driver who has done that more times is Max, with 12 and counting.

Commiserations to Mick, with Haas once again ratfucking the everloving piss out of his race, sealing two shitty pitstops up with a piss-poor end strategy. If they hadn't fucked his pitstops up and did the Haas special of a long Hard stint, and then pitted for meds/softs towards the end, he'd have been fighting for 9th at the bare minimum, potentially as high as 6th/7th if he managed to undercut and hold back Lando.
 
Just found the site again lads. I was laughing my ass off. Can't believe they forgot the tire. Replay of Irvine's famous stop
 
Becky McDonald said:
Croft was absolutely insufferable.
The only shot Lewis ever had at winning this race was staying on the Hards and nursing them to the end. That disappeared as soon as the SC happened.

Even on softs, it would have been a Merc 2/3 at best. Max would have had them sooner or later, even if there was a 15 second gap between them. My favourite part about the whole thing was how they talked for like 5 minutes straight on Merc holding Max back, only for George to pit and Lewis to be dumped at the earliest possible point where a driver can be legally overtaken.

Well done to George for taking the initiative and deciding to go for Softs, securing 2nd place and getting his own back for what the team did to him back in Austria.
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Exactly this. The 1 stop strategy got Hambone track position but Max would have only been a couple of seconds off after a stop whith brand new tyres and a faster car at the end.

No way George was holding off Max to give lewlew the win if he didn't stop, they both would have ended up losing out to Max and Leclerc.

George made a good call and the team didn't stop it because they knew it was their best chance for a good result after Max had fitted the softs.

George is on track to easily outscore Hambone this season and its not just down to luck like the dick riders will claim.
 
Becky McDonald said:
Croft was absolutely insufferable.
The only shot Lewis ever had at winning this race was staying on the Hards and nursing them to the end. That disappeared as soon as the SC happened.

Even on softs, it would have been a Merc 2/3 at best. Max would have had them sooner or later, even if there was a 15 second gap between them. My favourite part about the whole thing was how they talked for like 5 minutes straight on Merc holding Max back, only for George to pit and Lewis to be dumped at the earliest possible point where a driver can be legally overtaken.

Well done to George for taking the initiative and deciding to go for Softs, securing 2nd place and getting his own back for what the team did to him back in Austria.

Great weekend for Alonso, 13th up to 6th. Could have been 5th if he didn't let Lando squeeze him off that one lap, but a magnificent result nonetheless, and now marks the ninth consecutive race he has scored points, tying both Mercs in that regard. The only driver who has done that more times is Max, with 12 and counting.

Commiserations to Mick, with Haas once again ratfucking the everloving piss out of his race, sealing two shitty pitstops up with a piss-poor end strategy. If they hadn't fucked his pitstops up and did the Haas special of a long Hard stint, and then pitted for meds/softs towards the end, he'd have been fighting for 9th at the bare minimum, potentially as high as 6th/7th if he managed to undercut and hold back Lando.
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How about them going "WHY ARE THEY SLOWING DOWN" for a solid 20 seconds while the safety car notice was up.

Weird but fun race. Imagine if Ferrari (or F1 in general) had to deal with pit crew/chief suspensions on loss of equipment like NASCAR does.
 
Bill Elliot said:
Max is 109 points clear of Charl. It's over.
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Realistically, it was over when Leclerc binned it at France. He'd had some pretty rotten luck leading up to that point, but that mistake was all him.
Leclerc doesn't have the champion's temperament just yet.

With 109 points, Max's margin for error further widens to Charles winning every race that's left + every fastest lap + P1 in the Brazil Sprint, with Max settling for 4th in each race (including the sprint), and Max still winning the championship by 399 points against Leclerc's 391.

In this position, Max now has the ability to break some records.

If he wins one more race this season, he will equal Lewis Hamilton's best win/season record.
If he wins three more races, he will equal Schumacher and Vettel's all-time win/season record, as well as overtaking Fernando Alonso to have the 6th most wins.
If he manages to finish on the podium in every remaining race, not falling to DNFs, mistakes, or crashes, he will break his all-time podium/season record by one.
So long as he makes at least 104 more points (i.e. 4 wins + fastest laps) he will break Lewis Hamilton's all-time points/season record of 413.
And this one's very wishful, but with his 4th victory in a row, Vettel's all time consecutive win record of 9 now looks very much at stake.
 
Balr0g said:
And almost double the points of Hamilton. Now that must be hurting. Also what are the bets Hamilton goes without win this season? He seems inching closer and closer to a win
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That's the main thing I want out of this season.

The close championship looked on until ferrari remembered they are ferrari and started doing ferrari things. So both are all but over.

The hambone dickrider's last major cope being taken away will be glorious.
 
Button and the rest of the commentary team were speaking mountains of bullshit trying to hype up Lewis, but Max and Redbull would have won under literally every circumstance, whether there was a VSC or no VSC, or there was a full safety car or not.

Annoying that their bias would genuinely be misleading newbies to the sport.
 
Coccxys said:
That's the main thing I want out of this season.

The close championship looked on until ferrari remembered they are ferrari and started doing ferrari things. So both are all but over.

The hambone dickrider's last major cope being taken away will be glorious.
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It isn't even that special of a record.

Jim Clark didn't win a race until his third season in the sport, Lauda didn't win a race until his fourth season in the sport, Prost didn't get it because of the dreadfully uncompetitive 1980 McLaren, Senna didn't get it because of his 1984 season (and even if he did, 1994 would have stopped him from achieving this honour anyway), Schumacher didn't get it during his first run because of 1991, where he spent one lap in a self-destructing Jordan and the rest of the season in a generally uncompetitive Benetton against the race-winning McLarens and Williamses, Alonso didn't get it because of his 2001 season with Minardi and his unlucky '04 season (+ Schumacher's dominance that year), Vettel didn't get it because of his 2007 run with Sauber/Toro Rosso, and Verstappen hasn't got it either because of his first season with Toro Rosso.

It is one of the most pointless statistics in existence, based purely on circumstance of having a race-winning car. And I cannot wait for it to die.
 
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