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I held off watching race live as I hung out at my daughter's this afternoon and her fiance and I watched it together.

I was amazed at the spread between cars, such large gaps other than the train Ham was in. I was hoping for an SC with about 15 laps left to tighten it back up. Disappointed with Mag falling off, was hoping he'd keep in top 6. Bottas should have had that podium if it wasn't for the pit stop issue. That would have been great as an additional smackdown on Merc/Ham. It was amazing watching how shit he was in this race. So much for master of rain. He couldn't pass shit cars with mediocre drivers. A couple more races like that and he will be lucky to finish top 10 in the standings.

George certainly looked great and if it wasn't for him being able to deal with the bad Merc, they'd be way down in WCC standings. Still not ready to fully write them off yet though. While that wasn't a night race, it was like Australia where the temps were not what most of the races would be encountering. Miami should be much warmer and see what effect that has on the various teams. While I don't see Merc challenging top 2, warm conditions might allow them to be more solid 3rd best team. As of now I put McL a notch above them, but see if that is case when the tracks are 30+C temps.

Merc really have fallen hard though. I mean I could see them maybe being .2 or .3 behind when the year started, and expected them to claw that back. But today they were easily close to 1.5 secs behind on pace.

It was not a barnburner of a race but fairly good. However the spread between cars was just ridiculous. Like 5 to 10 secs between a lot of cars. The weather conditions for me didn't really help to sort out the competitive order much so I am hoping Miami is just straight nice warm/hot weather, no rain and no heavy wind as generally that is what we expect most races to be. So until we have one of those races, the true order is still a bit fuzzy, for me anyway. Like will AM be top 10 in Miami and Merc sucking balls again? Somehow I doubt it.

I stuck with Charles as my Turbo in both teams so that bit my ass this time. I cant remember who I all had to be honest so will be interesting to see who struck gold amongst us with this result when I check the standings later.

Just reading articles from post-race. This sounds concerning.

Extreme porpoising isn’t sustainable warns Russell after suffering chest pains in race​

Posted on 24th April 2022, 19:58 | Written by Will Wood and Claire Cottingham

George Russell says the physical effects of porpoising from the new ground effect 2022 Formula 1 cars is not sustainable for drivers.

His Mercedes team have struggled with the severe bouncing phenomenon at high speeds caused by the high downforce levels generated at maximum velocity by the new floors for 2022. The W13 has been prone to porpoising to such a degree that team principal Toto Wolff revealed on Friday Russell’s car had broken a stay on its floor designed to held increase its rigidity.

The impact of the constant bouncing at high speeds is beginning to take a toll on his health, Russell says, with the phenomenon being at its most severe during today’s Emilia-Romagna Grand Prix.

“I think when the car’s in the right window and the tyres are in the right window, the car, except for the bouncing, feels really good to drive,” said Russell after finishing fourth in Imola.

“But the bouncing really takes your breath away. It’s the most extreme I’ve ever felt it. I really hope we find a solution and I hope every team who’s struggling with the bouncing finds a solution because it is not sustainable for the drivers to continue with this level.

“This is the first weekend I’ve truly been struggling with my back. Almost like chest pains from the severity of the bouncing, but it’s just what we have to do to go get the fastest lap times out of the car.”

After his fourth consecutive top-five finish at the start of the 2022 season, with Mercedes clearly lacking performance in comparison to their rivals Red Bull and Ferrari, Russell says the team must get more out of their package if they want to continue to finish in the higher places.

“I think in terms of results, we’re definitely getting the most out of it and things have definitely fallen our way in these first four races,” said Russell.

“It gives me and I’m sure it gives the team confidence that when the car improves, we’ll be there to get even more points on the board. So, as I said before this weekend, we can’t sustain this level of these results if we don’t improve the pace of the car.”
 
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Just reading articles from post-race. This sounds concerning.

Extreme porpoising isn’t sustainable warns Russell after suffering chest pains in race​

Posted on 24th April 2022, 19:58 | Written by Will Wood and Claire Cottingham

George Russell says the physical effects of porpoising from the new ground effect 2022 Formula 1 cars is not sustainable for drivers.

His Mercedes team have struggled with the severe bouncing phenomenon at high speeds caused by the high downforce levels generated at maximum velocity by the new floors for 2022. The W13 has been prone to porpoising to such a degree that team principal Toto Wolff revealed on Friday Russell’s car had broken a stay on its floor designed to held increase its rigidity.

The impact of the constant bouncing at high speeds is beginning to take a toll on his health, Russell says, with the phenomenon being at its most severe during today’s Emilia-Romagna Grand Prix.

“I think when the car’s in the right window and the tyres are in the right window, the car, except for the bouncing, feels really good to drive,” said Russell after finishing fourth in Imola.

“But the bouncing really takes your breath away. It’s the most extreme I’ve ever felt it. I really hope we find a solution and I hope every team who’s struggling with the bouncing finds a solution because it is not sustainable for the drivers to continue with this level.

“This is the first weekend I’ve truly been struggling with my back. Almost like chest pains from the severity of the bouncing, but it’s just what we have to do to go get the fastest lap times out of the car.”

After his fourth consecutive top-five finish at the start of the 2022 season, with Mercedes clearly lacking performance in comparison to their rivals Red Bull and Ferrari, Russell says the team must get more out of their package if they want to continue to finish in the higher places.

“I think in terms of results, we’re definitely getting the most out of it and things have definitely fallen our way in these first four races,” said Russell.

“It gives me and I’m sure it gives the team confidence that when the car improves, we’ll be there to get even more points on the board. So, as I said before this weekend, we can’t sustain this level of these results if we don’t improve the pace of the car.”
Here we go. Might not have said this here but I was worried about driver safety during porpoising, especially neck injuries. Will be interesting how the Ferrari drivers handle this. Btw, Russel is a fucking hero for how many places he gained on lap 1, and merc don’t deserve him.
 
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Edit: about the pourposing, they can just raise the ride height... What they don't want to lose performance? Tough shit bouncy boi.
 
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Just reading articles from post-race. This sounds concerning.

Extreme porpoising isn’t sustainable warns Russell after suffering chest pains in race​

Posted on 24th April 2022, 19:58 | Written by Will Wood and Claire Cottingham

George Russell says the physical effects of porpoising from the new ground effect 2022 Formula 1 cars is not sustainable for drivers.

His Mercedes team have struggled with the severe bouncing phenomenon at high speeds caused by the high downforce levels generated at maximum velocity by the new floors for 2022. The W13 has been prone to porpoising to such a degree that team principal Toto Wolff revealed on Friday Russell’s car had broken a stay on its floor designed to held increase its rigidity.

The impact of the constant bouncing at high speeds is beginning to take a toll on his health, Russell says, with the phenomenon being at its most severe during today’s Emilia-Romagna Grand Prix.

“I think when the car’s in the right window and the tyres are in the right window, the car, except for the bouncing, feels really good to drive,” said Russell after finishing fourth in Imola.

“But the bouncing really takes your breath away. It’s the most extreme I’ve ever felt it. I really hope we find a solution and I hope every team who’s struggling with the bouncing finds a solution because it is not sustainable for the drivers to continue with this level.

“This is the first weekend I’ve truly been struggling with my back. Almost like chest pains from the severity of the bouncing, but it’s just what we have to do to go get the fastest lap times out of the car.”

After his fourth consecutive top-five finish at the start of the 2022 season, with Mercedes clearly lacking performance in comparison to their rivals Red Bull and Ferrari, Russell says the team must get more out of their package if they want to continue to finish in the higher places.

“I think in terms of results, we’re definitely getting the most out of it and things have definitely fallen our way in these first four races,” said Russell.

“It gives me and I’m sure it gives the team confidence that when the car improves, we’ll be there to get even more points on the board. So, as I said before this weekend, we can’t sustain this level of these results if we don’t improve the pace of the car.”
I think Russell might be the one who suffers the most as he iis the tallest driver in the current grid. Isn't Russell nearly 2 meters tall? I can imagine that his back suffers more then those of other drivers. Of course we haven't heard from other drivers so far. Leclerc and Sainz seem to have the mindset of "tough it out" as Ferrari has also big porpoising but they don't loose speed over it
 
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thats cool you got to go, what corner did you get seats at? and did it ever start raining?
I found a spot near Tosa where you could watch over the barriers they put in place through either a gard rail or standing on one of the ladders provided by helpful Neapolitan citizens.
Also at some point a guy just handed me a couple of tickets said he didn't need them and I just got in and went as close to the track as I could.

The smell of rubber and the engines was an aphrodisiac.

And yes it did rain at some point but thankfully it stopped right by the time the race was about to start.

And the Frecce Tricolori are just pure aerial poetry.
 
I think Russell might be the one who suffers the most as he iis the tallest driver in the current grid. Isn't Russell nearly 2 meters tall? I can imagine that his back suffers more then those of other drivers. Of course we haven't heard from other drivers so far. Leclerc and Sainz seem to have the mindset of "tough it out" as Ferrari has also big porpoising but they don't loose speed over it
George Russell appears to be 185cm tall.

 
As I thought and the link @SargonF00t provided says, it's Ocon who's tallest at 186cm. I think Ocon might hold the record for tallest driver, but I'm not too sure on that.
I might have remembered it wrong but I thought Russell was over 1,90. He also had problems when he drove as a replacement for Hamilton in 2020 not fitting into his car. I must have remembered it wrong.
 
I might have remembered it wrong but I thought Russell was over 1,90. He also had problems when he drove as a replacement for Hamilton in 2020 not fitting into his car. I must have remembered it wrong.
Hamilton is 173 and Bottas is around the same height, so Merc probably didn't build/have ready a chassis capable of fitting George.
 
As I thought and the link @SargonF00t provided says, it's Ocon who's tallest at 186cm. I think Ocon might hold the record for tallest driver, but I'm not too sure on that.

wasn’t Alex Wurz terrifyingly tall? 186 is a big lad though

edit: hang on wasn’t poor Justin Wilson absolutely MASSIVE
 
wasn’t Alex Wurz terrifyingly tall? 186 is a big lad though

edit: hang on wasn’t poor Justin Wilson absolutely MASSIVE
Funny how Austrian F1 drivers are all the same height. Gerhard Berger is 1,86 meters, Karl Wendlinger is 1,86 meters and Alexander Wurz is also 1,86 meters if the data I found is correct.
And yeah Justin Wilson was 1,93 meters tall
 
In regards to the height of the drivers: during the era of natural aspirated engines tall drivers were actually costing themselves power. During Berger's first year at Mclaren in 1990 he not only had an uncomfortable seating position but due to his height his helmet blocked parts of the air box which allegedly dide cost him up to 20% of engine power due to the reduced air intake. The same would also count for Karl Wendlinger.
 
Rumours started by some Spanish F1 journo about some "insider info" is that there will eb a driver swap between two teams sometime this season.

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The main speculation is Ricciardo for Gastly (though why would Ricciardo go back to the red bull set up?). The other mentioned name is Vettel retiring mid season though I doubt that.

The best swap would be kick Zhou's underperforming by a long way ass out of that car and put Piastri in that seat. Alfa would be in a position to fight for 3rd/4th in the WCC with two good drivers.

In the end as long as it isn't Hamilton lucking his way into a fast car I'm fine. In before FIA/FOM threaten ferrari into taking hamildouche.
 
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It says switch between two teams, so unless he counts Piastri as being a member of Alpine, then it infers it is two active drivers but I note its translated so who knows exactly the intent of what was said. Vettel retiring also could be ruled out.

Yeah, that seems to be a weird bit of news if true. How about Stroll to Merc for Ham? LOLOL But who could it possibly be? I am running the possibilities through my head at the moment...

EDIT-I cant see any logical swaps. Bottas-Sainz? Is the only one I briefly paused on to consider. Nothing leapt out at me that's for sure. Weird.
 
Vettel for Latiffi make a super Canada pay driver team. I wouldn't be upset at that, though it would be for meme value.
That would be good too! Have the two worst drivers in F1 on the same team! Then we can figure out which one sucks the most.

I could see Vettel wanting to drive for the illustrious Williams team to close out his career as well.

Its all probably just some goofy rumour or maybe it is just academy drivers switching or something. I believe Fabrega is fairly respect in the journal circles and it will be interesting to see if he does have some deep insider knowledge or is left with egg on his face if this doesn't happen.
 
The best swap would be kick Zhou's underperforming by a long way ass out of that car and put Piastri in that seat.
Zhou won’t be kicked out because he’s the only driver who is Chinese. Formula 1 wants to grow its Chinese audience, and the best way for that to happen is to have a Chinese driver for them to root for.
TV unique viewers (the number of individuals that tune into at least one race during the season) for 2021 stood at 445m (+3% YoY). The biggest market on this metric was China (70.8m unique viewers in 2021, +13% vs 2020), but there were also significant YoY gains in Spain (+272%), Russia (+129%), and the USA (+53%).
 
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