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It is now well past 1AM there and according to Scott Mitchell, the drivers have been meeting for 2.5 hours and now teams bosses are meeting again. I wonder if a fair amount of drivers are refusing to race now?

Like I said, fiasco/disaster regardless of what happens now all due to choosing to race in these retarded countries. Just stick to Europe/West Asia/NA+SA/Japan/Australia and this shit wouldn't keep happening.
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Some of the pics I saw that were taken outside the windows most people in there weren't wearing masks. I saw Tsu, Max, Albon, George, Hulk, Gasly, Stroll for sure not wearing one. Lewis, Daniel and Zhou had theirs' on.
 
Apparently the drivers had about an hours meeting before they asked Domenicali to join them, about half an hour after Ross Brawn went in too. About an hour after that they both left and the drivers continued the meeting for another hour or so and now George and Seidl have gone to chat to race control.

They must be taking it pretty seriously if its still being discussed at 2am the night before fp3 and qualifying.

The only driver comment so far
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Looks like it's on
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Yeah, I think there must be at least one, probably more, driver(s) who said they won't race. If they were all united I am sure one of them would have said something or they would have made a statement to press,

So, if that is the case, then the discussion must be centered around do we go ahead with those that want to race? I am pretty sure they need 14 cars to race per contract/concorde or whatever legal docs deal with that. Obviously any who don't want to race, especially top teams, want it completely cancelled.

Anyway, see what morning brings I guess.

SA 1982 vibes with the brief drivers' strike over licenses or something like that. I think that race went fully ahead. I seem to recall there was another race around that time frame (late 70s/early 80s) that some teams didn't participate/boycotted, or weren't allowed over tech issue or something. A vague memory, do you recall what I may be thinking of @Coccxys
 
I am pretty sure they need 14 cars to race per contract/concorde or whatever legal docs deal with that. Obviously any who don't want to race, especially top teams, want it completely cancelled.
I guess we won't see a repeat of the 2005 US GP, where the only 6 drivers who participated were on Bridgestone tyres due to safety issues with the Michelins that the other 14 drivers were on. The motivation for refusing to drive this weekend appears to be the same (i.e. safety), but if the underlying cause of said safety concern is completely different.
 
Apparently the drivers had about an hours meeting before they asked Domenicali to join them, about half an hour after Ross Brawn went in too. About an hour after that they both left and the drivers continued the meeting for another hour or so and now George and Seidl have gone to chat to race control.

They must be taking it pretty seriously if its still being discussed at 2am the night before fp3 and qualifying.

The only driver comment so far
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Looks like it's on
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They seem conflicting comments in a way! Why would it take them 4 hours to reach a united stance if the stance is we are racing! That implies, since it took so long, that there may have been detractors and either they were cowed into racing, or perhaps those that want to drive are getting out ahead with showing they aren't scared and will race on.

I wonder if any driver(s) who left that meeting still don't feel down for racing, but now they can't say anything for fear being called a wimp or something?

Just weird, 4 hours to agree to race, so who had concerns and how/why did they change their mind? Cant wait for DTS to hype it up! Probably make it look like some driver was crying his eyes out and cowering in the corner!

I am sure some of the pundits/.journos will get some inside info on what went down.
 
I doubt they would target the actual race because any collateral right there on live TV in the west would be all the causes belli murica and friends would need to go stomping in.
Wouldn't say that. And I also wouldn't say that I'd be particularly sorry if some Yemeni drone launched a missile into the VIP-lodrge with all the head-honchos of Saudi Arabia.
In the event of a drone strike or other catastrophic event, the red flag shall be thrown and all cars will stop in the pit-lane. All competitors will be allowed to change tires or change parts for identical copies depending on FIA approval.
Non-essential-parts like Hamilton can be replaced by generic spares.
I'd love to know who wants to race and who doesn't. To be a fly on the wall at that driver's meeting...
I'd assume anyone with a shit car would prefer not to race, just to get another week's worth of preparation before they get the Ferrari shlong.

McLaren and AM might be against a race. Maybe even Mercedes. Ferrari would be in favor of racing and so would be RB.
 
I guess we won't see a repeat of the 2005 US GP, where the only 6 drivers who participated were on Bridgestone tyres due to safety issues with the Michelins that the other 14 drivers were on. The motivation for refusing to drive this weekend appears to be the same (i.e. safety), but if the underlying cause of said safety concern is completely different.
Yeah, imagine like only 4 or 5 teams or a dozen drivers (whoever makes the ultimate call as to do we race or not) want to race? Would FIA be dumb enough to do another US GP fiasco? Probably.

It would be even more amusing if you have a team where one driver will race but other won't. LOL

Maybe the FIA paid a bunch of money to the Houthis to not shoot any rockets until after they leave! HAHAHA They have enough to do it. Whatever, I hope when I wake up it is either all united and race is on, or its cancelled fully. Don't want to see/hear A team(s) or B driver(s) aren't willing to race. Also, what happens if another missile tomorrow, even closer to track?

Like I said as soon as this started going down, another fucking shitshow.
 
I seem to recall there was another race around that time frame (late 70s/early 80s) that some teams didn't participate/boycotted, or weren't allowed over tech issue or something. A vague memory, do you recall what I may be thinking of @Coccxys
'82 San Marino GP. It was the constructors (FOCA) rather than the drivers striking over a disqualification at the GP before for the whole water cooled brakes/balast thing that the NA cars used to try and keep up with the turbos.

Apparently race is on but it took some convincing.
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Oh yes, right. The infamous race! How could I forget that! Thanks @Coccxys EDIT-Shit, 40 year anniversary of Gilles passing only about 6 weeks away.

SAUDI GP STILL ON DESPITE EXTRAORDINARY F1 DRIVERS’ MEETING​

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The 2022 Saudi Arabian Grand Prix is still going ahead, despite an apparent effort from Formula 1 drivers to force a U-turn from series chiefs and the FIA.

F1 had initially declared there was unanimous support among drivers and teams for the event continuing as scheduled for now in the wake of a missile strike by Yemen rebel group Houthi on a nearby Aramco oil depot on Friday.

But all 20 drivers remained in the F1 hospitality building after team bosses, series CEO Stefano Domenicali and FIA president Mohammed Ben Sulayem left the initial meeting that had taken place shortly after the delayed second practice session.

A meeting of the Grand Prix Drivers’ Association then developed, with the drivers continuing their talks together for over two hours.

Team bosses returned shortly before 1.30am local time, then after talks with the drivers departed in unison to go to the track’s race tower while the drivers remained together.

The Race understands that some drivers had expressed serious unease about continuing with the grand prix in the circumstances.

And the dramatic recall of team principals for further talks suggested either the GPDA had reached a consensus that the drivers did not want to race, or that enough of them were pushing for a boycott to put the race into doubt.

McLaren team principal Andreas Seidl rejoined the drivers’ meeting after a short time with the other team chiefs.

Following further discussions involving Seidl, the drivers’ group began to disperse, over four hours after they had first met with Domenicali, with GPDA director George Russell going to the race tower building to join team bosses.

As drivers and team principals then began to leave the paddock, it became clear that the outcome for now was that the race would indeed continue as scheduled, suggesting sufficient assurances had been given to sway the drivers that had been against it.

None of those leaving the circuit were willing to make any comments to the media still present, although Sergio Perez promptly tweeted that he was “ready and totally focused” for qualifying.

F1’s preference for continuing the event is based on local intelligence suggesting the grand prix itself would not be a Houthi target, and enhanced security measures around the track.
 
All I know if the DTS director probably didn't pack enough underwear for the amount of times he's cummed from all this and Will Buxton has already said something about how a missile strike during a session is an unusual occurance and that usually when a missile hits something it explodes.
 
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Matt Gallagher made a tweet quoting a portion of BBC article. I made the portion he quoted orange. I guess he is intimating that Saudi govt or powers that be said you don't race you will be fucked around with when trying to leave. This whole thing is getting lolcow worthy now.

Saudi Arabian Grand Prix will go ahead after missile attack​

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The Saudi Arabian Grand Prix is expected to go ahead as planned after hours of meetings following a missile attack near the track in Jeddah.

The drivers spent four hours after practice on Friday discussing whether the race should be run.

But eventually at 2.30am local time on Saturday, after further reassurances from bosses, they agreed to race.

After an extraordinary series of events, team bosses emerged from the meetings to say: "We will be racing."

Yemen's Houthi rebels claimed responsibility for the attack on an oil depot about nine miles from the track, according to the Associated Press.

Second practice was delayed by 15 minutes after the attack as team bosses and drivers were called to a meeting with F1 president Stefano Domenicali.

The drivers went into a meeting with Domenicali and managing director Ross Brawn about an hour after the end of practice and that meeting did not end for another four hours, as various senior figures came and went.

BBC Sport has learned that a significant number of drivers had concerns about the safety of the event following the attack.

But eventually they were convinced to go ahead and race after being given further information by bosses.

Part of this information involved the possible consequences of not racing, such as how easily teams and drivers would be able to leave the country if the race did not happen.


The first signs of the attack came as smoke had billowed across the track during the first practice session in the afternoon.

Before second practice, Domenicali called teams and drivers to a meeting and told them the weekend would proceed as planned and that security for the grand prix has been a priority for the authorities.

He said he would keep them updated through the weekend and met them again just over an hour after practice finished to share further information.

But the drivers continued to be concerned about the potential risks of racing so close to a missile strike on a high-profile Saudi facility. The grand prix is also closely associated with the Saudi royal family.

All the drivers' post-practice media sessions were cancelled.

F1 said after practice had finished but before the drivers went into their marathon meeting: "Formula 1 has been in close contact with the relevant authorities following the situation that took place today.

"The authorities have confirmed that the event can continue as planned and we will remain in close contact with them and all the teams and closely monitor the situation."

Mohammed Ben Sulayem, president of F1's governing body the FIA, said: "They are targeting the infrastructure, not the civilians, and, of course, not the track. We've checked the facts and we've got assurances from the highest level that this is a secure place. Let's go on racing."

There was a similar attack a week before the race, while F1 was at the opening event of the season in Bahrain.
SOURCE: https://www.bbc.com/sport/formula1/60880598
 
Top notch security measures are now in effect!
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Well that is enough for me, given its past 3AM there most of them must be heading to bed now. So, I leave you with Guenther:
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