Formula 1 Discussion - And favourite driver?

[Coccxys]

I wonder if all of this is to cover for king Lewis leaving "on the top" due to his "disgust with the FIA" to save from Hamilton leaving next season when the car is crap.

I think they bet the farm on this season, Max was away free and clear winning the championship no question until Brazil. They seemed to make a step change in car performance from then on, coincidentally the race at which Lewis winning everything from then on the champion no matter what Max did.

I bet that took a significant diversion of resources from their 2022 car, something certainly happened at that point because that merc was unbeatable from then on. Interlagos might be a good overtaking track but no one goes 10th to 1st and wins by over 10 seconds in any gp unless their car is just ridiculous. Plus they turned up with loads of new toys like the grooves on the rear wing etc. That plus the lack of performance of Bottas' car at the same time suggests new parts that they only had 1 of.

It wouldn't suprise me if they went all out to avoid having any of the "turbo-hybrid" era go elsewhere at the expense of the next era. Then when they lose it realise they screwed themselves all for nothing.

 

[valis]

About the number assignment discussion from a few pages back, I saw some off-season space filler article a couple of years ago about 'Will Max change his CURSED number 33 if he doesn't get WDC this season?'; they seemed to think a driver could apply to change their number if they wanted. But that could be total bullshit.

Frankly, I'd have an easier time claiming this was Mercedes' doing to enforce a safety car that'll cover the last few laps up to the checkered flag, since they might have feared their old tyres might blow out from stress.

This is my new favourite conspiracy theory.

I don't dislike Hamilton, though he's hard to warm to. One thing I do really like about him is what seems to be his binary view that you win or you lose, there's a number 1 and everyone else, second place is as worthless as last place when you could have won. It's disappointing seeing people who should have contended for first celebrating fourth - fight for it, ffs, and do blame yourself if you don't do what you could have. All this toys out of pram shit from Mercedes throws a bitter light on Hamilton when I don't think he's said anything publicly about it except politely congratulating Max (yeah, the radio messages were petulant).

Until this season I'd have said it wouldn't be bad if Hamilton retired, but the challenge Max has given him especially the last couple of seasons has been the making of Hamilton. Brazil this year was genuinely amazing. They're so far ahead of the rest of the field that if Hamilton retires, Max becomes Hamilton, the guy you hope gets beaten. I hated young Seb, when he was every race a minute ahead of everyone else and ruined the race as a competition; now I adore him. Unbeatable winners aren't likeable or good for sport.

Anyway, let's hope all the reviews end up putting in place a single steward team throughout the season, which would solve so many problems directly, and so many problems that spin out from the perceived unfairness of the inconsistency.

 

[Full Race Replay]

ain't no way lewis wins the personality of the year award. That's the new biggest heist of the year.

anyway, screw yall, Max is CHAMPION OF THE WORLD

 

[Pee Cola]

Hamilton, whether by accident or design, is 100% a product for the American market. He doesn't really represent F1 anymore, he's a personal brand that made its name as a driver in some European racing series. I don't know what he'll do post-F1 but I am certain he could go to LA and easily live out some kind of influencer life if he wanted to. And let's not pretend race doesn't play a part in it.

If Hambone does rage quit F1 as Toto alleges, he'd have no trouble walking into IndyCar. Heck, I'd pay good money to see Sir Hambone in NASCAR. That'd be a real turd in the punchbowl for both Sir Hambone's dickriders and the Good Ol' Boys.

He's an exceptional driver in many respects, but he's also a diva who appears souless and graceless even with 7 titles

He's a competent driver flattered by exceptional hardware. He may be one of F1's most successful drivers of all time, but he'll never be one of F1's greatest. Unfortunately, Sir Hambone's dickriders conflate success with greatness.

 

[Coccxys]

If Hambone does rage quit F1 as Toto alleges, he'd have no trouble walking into IndyCar. Heck, I'd pay good money to see Sir Hambone in NASCAR. That'd be a real turd in the punchbowl for both Sir Hambone's dickriders and the Good Ol' Boys.

"And now a moment of silence for the NASCAR we race as one message in support of BLM".

Yeah, I could see that being hilarious.

Hamilton wants to be an African American celebrity so badly. That why he always has an entourage of black muricans, produced his own rap album, started all this BLM shit. He's so desperate to be accepted as one of them. A move to America would probably be the end of his racing career because he'd be too busy hanging round with a bunch of rappers to train or actually attend races.

Also fun fact of the day: Kvyat got to Max's girlfriend first and has a kid with her.

 

[Pee Cola]

Hamilton wants to be an African American celebrity so badly. That why he always has an entourage of black muricans, produced his own rap album, started all this BLM shit. He's so desperate to be accepted as one of them. A move to America would probably be the end of his racing career because he'd be too busy hanging round with a bunch of rappers to train or actually attend races.

He'd still have tens of millions of simps on both sides of the Atlantic rooting for him, even if he was a solid midfielder. As an added bonus, he could always blame unfamilarity with the car as the reason for the lack of success in America instead of his focus on chasing clout rather than chasing results on the track.

Hambone could be a modern day Willy T. Ribbs, only more successful and less likable.

 

[Full Race Replay]

I think lewis was lowkey planning to retire if he won title #8 this season, so he could duck out before any possible merc butchering of new regulations next year. Now he has no idea what to do especially because he lost the last race because of dissatisfying but fair circumstances, but he'll get over it in a week or two and he'll be back. And next year we may get more dirty driving from lewis because he will be hungry for it, compared to this year when he had gotten so complacent from the last 7 years that he would pass people with DRS and not expect anyone to try anything to pass him.

 

[Coccxys]

Lewis has 2 years on his contact, will be interesting to see if he sees it through or throws in the towel should the 2022 merc be a dog of a car. I think you are right that he was hoping to walk this season and spend a couple of seasons kicking back and handing over the tourch to Russel. It's clear Merc don't see a long term Hamilton commitment since they're clearly fitting Russel up to be the future where as Bottas was very much a placeholder because they didn't want another Rossberg/Hamilton shitshow.

The F1 gala announcement and pictures they posted on twitter are a smoking hell hole of a comments section. The pure cope and seethe is just crazy, it's getting beyond the 2016 presidential election levels of salt in there. I mean it's just beyond even laughing at them, it's gone to pitying them for their delusions at this point. They're definitely displaying all the signs of denial, anger, bargaining and a few in depression mode.

 

[Pee Cola]

The F1 gala announcement and pictures they posted on twitter are a smoking hell hole of a comments section. The pure cope and seethe is just crazy, it's getting beyond the 2016 presidential election levels of salt in there. I mean it's just beyond even laughing at them, it's gone to pitying them for their delusions at this point. They're definitely displaying all the signs of denial, anger, bargaining and a few in depression mode.

DTS was a mistake.

 

[Coccxys]

DTS was a mistake.

I actually say someone claiming that everyone thinks it should be reversed because #justiceforlewis is trending and that should be reason enough for them to reverse it. Twitter is utterly devastating to the minds of the stupid, they just can't comprehend that something trending there means precisely fuck all in the real world. See also the Brexit referendum, the American election in 2016 and the 2019 British general election, in all cases they were utterly devastated that their side didn't get a 99% majority like their straw poll on twitter did.

I've been asking a lot of people who're saying this is illegitimate, won't really count or will be ignored in future if they consider 1989, 1995 and 2008 legitimate since they were all championships that involved controversial bullshit (or worse in the case of 2008 ) but still stand for Prost, Schumacher and Hamilton. No one says they're illegitimate, no one has an asterisk nect to them in their list of championships and everyone still says Prost won 4, Schumacher 7 and Hamilton 7 so clearly they count them. No responses from any yet, though I'm unsure if that's because they don't have an answer or don't have the slightest knowledge of pre-2014/DTS F1.

 

[Full Race Replay]

I actually say someone claiming that everyone thinks it should be reversed because #justiceforlewis is trending and that should be reason enough for them to reverse it. Twitter is utterly devastating to the minds of the stupid, they just can't comprehend that something trending there means precisely fuck all in the real world. See also the Brexit referendum, the American election in 2016 and the 2019 British general election, in all cases they were utterly devastated that their side didn't get a 99% majority like their straw poll on twitter did.

I've been asking a lot of people who're saying this is illegitimate, won't really count or will be ignored in future if they consider 1989, 1995 and 2008 legitimate since they were all championships that involved controversial bullshit (or worse in the case of 2008 ) but still stand for Prost, Schumacher and Hamilton. No one says they're illegitimate, no one has an asterisk nect to them in their list of championships and everyone still says Prost won 4, Schumacher 7 and Hamilton 7 so clearly they count them. No responses from any yet, though I'm unsure if that's because they don't have an answer or don't have the slightest knowledge of pre-2014/DTS F1.

I remember a poll last year from one of the formula one highlights channels saying which was Lewis’ hardest year, and 2020 won the poll over other options like 2008, 2018, 2016, or any of the other years in his mcclaren days. So yes, these are all post 2019 fans you are talking about

 

[Hard Toothbrush]

I remember a poll last year from one of the formula one highlights channels saying which was Lewis’ hardest year, and 2020 won the poll over other options like 2008, 2018, 2016, or any of the other years in his mcclaren days. So yes, these are all post 2019 fans you are talking about

jfc I still remember Lewis regularly finishing outside of points in 2009 with that dogshit McLaren, but it was 2020 that was "hard", fucking kill me.
I'm starting to get those who hardcore gatekeep their hobbies, it's a fucking necessity at this point to keep what you love away from the grubs of the homo twitterus.

 

[737 MAX Stan Account]

So... can we count Lewis' 2008 title as invalid now?

 

[DapperShark]

I'm starting to get those who hardcore gatekeep their hobbies, it's a fucking necessity at this point to keep what you love away from the grubs of the homo twitterus.

The biggest reason I dislike Hamilton is because he's singlehandedly responsible for introducing identity politics garbage to what's already a massive crybaby bitchfest, it's why I mostly stick to endurance racing these days, the barrier of entry for fans is far more autistic so you get none of that F1 diva bullshit.

 

[Thiletonomics]

If Hambone does rage quit F1 as Toto alleges, he'd have no trouble walking into IndyCar. Heck, I'd pay good money to see Sir Hambone in NASCAR. That'd be a real turd in the punchbowl for both Sir Hambone's dickriders and the Good Ol' Boys.

I want to see Hambone try to take on Jimmie Johnson in IndyCar, especially if Jimmie smokes the hell out of him, given that Jimmie will be running full-time in IndyCar next year.

And imaging the scene of Hambone getting roughed up by the likes of Kyle Busch in NASCAR would be quite the scene to say the least.

 

[Weeb Slinger]

If it turns out that Hamilton now throws in the towel and leaves the sport, it will be my new mission in life to find out where Masi lives, sneak up on him when he leaves the house and give him a giant fuck-off present basket.

Btw: There was a big photo shoot for those that won FIA constructor's titles (Formula E, F2 and so on)... and Mercedes refused to participate as well. Their team and car will not be featured in the official photos.

I am pretty sure that this display of bullshit is going to lead to reprimands, since they are contractually obligated to participate and above all, it is unsportsmanlike, shows utter disrespect to the FIA, the sport and every other team and driver.

I sincerely hope FIA fines Mercedes and Hamilton for this publicity stunt. Fuck me, if Mercedes fucks up enough and they get their entire season annuled retroactively, I am going to piss myself and double the amount of raw cocaine in the Masi-present-basket.

Edit: Holy shit, the seethe and cope from the Redditor fanboys lmao.

If these clowns turn their back on the sport alongside their dramaqueen, all the better.
And you just gotta fucking love these clowns bitching about how DA BLACK MAN can't lash out against discimination a year after BLM burned down entire blocks over a vile piece of human trash like Floyd got nubbed.

If we are putting together a gift basket for Masi, then I would like to add a rare blend of British and German salt, harvested by indentured Indian slave labour, who travelled to the gulf states to build condos for multi-millionaires, but who have instead had their passports confiscated and been put to work mining the crystalline sodium deposits that have accreted within the virtue-signalling racing helmets of Lewis Hamilton, and the Dubai landfill that has been hurriedly excavated among the red sands of the Empty Quarter to accommodate the broken headsets of Toto Wolff - the number of which is equivalent to the stars that crowd the desert firmament. The salt has been air dried in a tornado of Hamilton and Wolff's farts, which have been cycled through the potentially regulation-infringing architecture of the Mercedes engine that propelled Hamilton to a stunning and brave second place in the 2021 WDC. A small pinch of this precious seasoning will both enhance and add nuance to those precious moments of schadenfreude.

You don't really get to know the quality of a man, a woman, or a xir otherkin in a powder-blue fur suit, until they have comprehensively had their arse handed to them. If Hamilton returned to the sport more focused on racing and with a newfound stoicism, then I could respect that. What we are probably going to get is more shady car parts, more passive aggressive whining as a substitute for driving, and more selective moral finger wagging recalibrated according to where F1 is racing that particular week - all delivered by a personality that has been neutered by media training.

Early signs indicate that Russell is cut from the same whinging cloth as his co-driver. Good luck managing those two egos.

 

[Coccxys]

All this wailing and gnashing of teeth is not doing his image any good. I know a few people with a minor interest in F1 that support Hamilton because he's British that now are of the opinion he's a bit of a cunt.

Ironically this kind of crying to the courts, threatening to quit and not turning up to the award of the trophy really goes against you in Britain as a culture that values being stoic in defeat and not being a sore loser. The twitter/reddit fans might be right along with Lewis on this but it is definitely hurting his image with normal people.

Edit to avoid double posting:

Old man E knows what's up. He might not be everyone's taste but he got shit done and turned the sport into what it is today.



Frankly at this point I'd hit then with a DSQ from 2021 formula 1 and E for their behaviour regarding the photoshoots and other obligations of the winners.

 

[New Fag]

Say hello to our new FIA overlord Mohammed ben Sulayem or the guy who hands out trophies at Abu Dhabi.

Now before you scream oil money, just have a look at his wiki page: 14 Middle East rally championships, 18 starts in the WRC, oversees 140 sporting events a year and rejuvenated the Middle East rally championship in the early 10's among a long list of achievements.

and most importantly he's already pissed off hambots by saying he will look into Merc not showing up to the Gala and not in harsh terms either. Which has lead to idiots upset by the 'non following' of rules last Sunday wanting his first act to be not following the rules.

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Also I just have something to say about the football comparisons, they can't even get them right, there have been championships which go into the last match still undecided and have they never heard of Fergie time? Have they never seen a penalty which should have been a free kick or vice versa? Just makes you want to start shouting "NORMIES RAUS!".

 

[RomanesEuntDomus]

I've been asking a lot of people who're saying this is illegitimate, won't really count or will be ignored in future if they consider 1989, 1995 and 2008 legitimate since they were all championships that involved controversial bullshit (or worse in the case of 2008 ) but still stand for Prost, Schumacher and Hamilton. No one says they're illegitimate, no one has an asterisk nect to them in their list of championships and everyone still says Prost won 4, Schumacher 7 and Hamilton 7 so clearly they count them. No responses from any yet, though I'm unsure if that's because they don't have an answer or don't have the slightest knowledge of pre-2014/DTS F1.

I've seen a lot of people claiming rules were broken in the last few laps of the Abu Dhabi GP, I asked them which ones and how, I never got an answer.

Frankly, Hamilton-simps should be glad it ended like this, at least they can now pretend the title was lost due to FIA shenanigans, rather than by Hamilton being outperformed by Verstappen. Better to have a convenient scapegoat than to admit that their awesome driver couldn't match Verstappen, even though Perez held back Hamilton in a weaker position for a full lap.

I remember a poll last year from one of the formula one highlights channels saying which was Lewis’ hardest year, and 2020 won the poll over other options like 2008, 2018, 2016, or any of the other years in his mcclaren days. So yes, these are all post 2019 fans you are talking about

Oh boy. 2020 - what a terrible year that was for Mercedes! With Ferrari having an undrivable shitbox and both RBs combined having less points than Hamilton alone. Truly, no driver has faced such perilous odds and had to struggle this hard! What a true masterclass to snatch a title from the jaws of defeat at the last second for Lewis!

/sneed

Fuck these clowns, if Lewis leaves behind this sport and his shittastic fans move on to whatever else these mouthbreathers enjoy, it'll be a blessed day for F1

I want to see Hambone try to take on Jimmie Johnson in IndyCar, especially if Jimmie smokes the hell out of him, given that Jimmie will be running full-time in IndyCar next year.

And imaging the scene of Hambone getting roughed up by the likes of Kyle Busch in NASCAR would be quite the scene to say the least.

Hamilton? In a stock-car? As in, an identical car to everyone else? You expect him to drive the regular stuff the other riff-raff is using?!

All joking aside, I'd love to see him in a stock-car race, where he can't just fall back on using his utterly and ridiculously overpowered car. I mean, he's a competent driver, he's very consistent, he's very good at starts (his reactiontime is always a tiny bit quicker than his competition), so maybe he could hold his ground, but he would never dominate Indy as much as he did F1.

 

[New Fag]

Oh boy. 2020 - what a terrible year that was for Mercedes! With Ferrari having an undrivable shitbox and both RBs combined having less points than Hamilton alone. Truly, no driver has faced such perilous odds and had to struggle this hard! What a true masterclass to snatch a title from the jaws of defeat at the last second for Lewis!

Schumacher 2002 had much more perilous odds, was a real nail biter.