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Of course they blamed Max for Hamilton not knowing how to overtake a slower car without Bono telling him how. At least it changes nothing.

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There was no way they were going to do anything that would change their dream scenario of them being on equal points going into Abu Dhabi. Don't see how it was Max's fault though. But yeah, at least it changes nothing.

Better news: Theo Pourchaire who was driving the stalled car in the F2 race has tweeted that he's fine though maybe going to miss next week. Enzo Fittipaldi apparently has a broken ankle. Pretty amazing they weren't more seriously injured.


https://twitter.com/TPourchaire/status/1467609311614488578

https://twitter.com/VortexMotio/status/1467629079859896320
 
There was no way they were going to do anything that would change their dream scenario of them being on equal points going into Abu Dhabi. Don't see how it was Max's fault though. But yeah, at least it changes nothing.
Yeah but 10 sec Vestappen penalty is bullshit even if nothing changes. That's the same as what Hamilton got for Silverstone for fuck sake. They should have called it a nothing burger.

The plus side to the whole equal points, nothing changes is Max has more wins so if neither score in Abu Dhabi then Max is champion. It firmly stopped Hamilton trying to pull some bullshit while making him very aware of the risk of trying to overtake Max.
 
The plus side to the whole equal points, nothing changes is Max has more wins so if neither score in Abu Dhabi then Max is champion. It firmly stopped Hamilton trying to pull some bullshit while making him very aware of the risk of trying to overtake Max.
If Mercedes weren't balls deep down the FIA's throat, my suggestion to Max would be to go full 1990 Suzuka in Abu Dhabi. The trouble is that in the current year, Max would get the book thrown at him if he tried such a thing.
 
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The 10 sec penalty doesn't change the points thankfully, so they go into the final race level. Can't really understand the 10 sec since a car slowing down means you get to overtake unless its under the safety car that's racing or did Hamilton suddenly forget how to overtake . What a drama queen
He's had no real competition in several years off which hes collected numerous titles and this year they have had to race for a change and he's still complaining
 
As much as Hambone and Toto annoy me (and it's no small amount of annoyance) I've come to the conclusion that Massi is mainly responsible for the sorry state of F1 racing. His decisions are each and every time baffling. The standing starts were the worst choice possible after the 2 red flags considering the track. The VSCs wouldn't allow proper clearing after incidents. When Alonso was complaining about the track being full of debris and that they needed a real SC it was painfully obvious that Massi's decisions are either too little or he goes way overboard. He makes the worst decisions and has no measured response to new situations.

I really miss Whiting...
 
Its hard for me to see the track as something other than a mess
High speed , yes but clearly certain drivers are going to have problems e.g. HASS who lost both cars, The resultant debris is going to foul up other cars in the mess particularly on blind corners so we are going to have safety and virtual safety cars out and red flags
The result is likely to be a long frustrating race with numerous stoppages and gambling on such by teams to tyre change
Given its at night in the dark, gloomy with check point Charlie like features, not much sign of spectators , and stewards working overtime , not to mention track officials dodging in and out of the track to pick up a bit of a wing here, or some carbon fibre there before scampering back through a hole in the fence , it doesn't look good

Meanwhile his royal bone saw ,crown Prince MBS, is seen on high,in well lit opulence looking down mopping his brow with his headgear
 
Of course they blamed Max for Hamilton not knowing how to overtake a slower car without Bono telling him how. At least it changes nothing.

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Some grade A bullshit right there. Had they disqualified Max, RB (and maybe AT too) should have just gone and boycotted the final race altogether. It's shit like this where I would howl with laughter if a promising team would just resign from the sport in protest... or, you know, anounce that they will never work on their car again unless to make it rule compliant, not invest in it further than the bare minimum to participate in races and turn their team into a pure pay-driver act. Turn the shitshow into a public farce, you know. Just imagine RB with some oil-sheikhs offspring driving for three quarters of the season before they run out of spare parts and go "that's all folks, see you next year".

His decisions are each and every time baffling. The standing starts were the worst choice possible after the 2 red flags considering the track. The VSCs wouldn't allow proper clearing after incidents. When Alonso was complaining about the track being full of debris and that they needed a real SC it was painfully obvious that Massi's decisions are either too little or he goes way overboard. He makes the worst decisions and has no measured response to new situations.
I don't even think that with this race, it was purely based on incompetence. I think the VSC decisions were meant to keep up face with the investors from saudi barbaria.
They bought themselves a major sports event and they don't want to look like the goatfucking fools that they are for paying millions to have their literal slaves put together a shitty track that is barely useable.
The track is perfectly safe to drive on for a lone F1 car, but it's simply not feasible to have a race there. The blind corners and narrow barriers make extensive issues unavoidable.

Just imagine if there had been 3 red flags within 25 laps or so with a few stints behind the safety car, just for good measure. This racetrack is garbage. There can be overtakes, thankfully, sometimes even without DRS, but that only applies to like 1, maybe 2 corners on the entire track.
It is terrible for racing and it's terrible to watch. You get whiplash from all the quick camera pans showing cars going past and vanishing behind a wall before it cuts to the next shot of the same car or another one shooting past for a split second. It's annoying to watch and you can barely tell what's going on beyond a very basic understanding that cars are moving around on the tarmac. There were several times when the battle for 1st between Verstappen and Hamilton was replaced by scenes of Bottas trying to overtake someone and I was legit confused where the McLaren or Alpine suddenly came from and if it was Hamilton lapping them until I realized I had been watching Bottas for a minute or so.

It's like the Anti-Sochi. Where Sochi bores you with nothing ever happening, this track is like the ADHD counterpart that gives you whiplash and sensory overload.

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Also in regards to Max and ABLOOwis' crash, check out how Lewis attempted to overtake Max a bit earlier in lap 36.

Hamilton follows Max up to the very last moment, like he's sniffing his endpipe before swerving out of the slipstream at the last moment. He attempted the very same when Max tried to let him pass, only that time Max didn't attempt to pull ahead and instead went off the gas, so Lewis got his kisser up Max' diffusor.
FIA must be coked off their socks and drowning in underage saudi sexslaves to give Max a penalty.
 
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Meanwhile his royal bone saw ,crown Prince MBS, is seen on high,in well lit opulence looking down mopping his brow with his headgear
I saw there was an interview with prince bone saw, can't find it now. That is truly embarrasing for Formula One, even more than anything about the race.. And the only thing worse is reddit faggots who say "but muh america or something" when people complain about racing in saudi arabia.
 
I saw there was an interview with prince bone saw, can't find it now. That is truly embarrasing for Formula One, even more than anything about the race.. And the only thing worse is reddit faggots who say "but muh america or something" when people complain about racing in saudi arabia.


Mohammed Bin Salman wasn't meant to be crown Prince but he is and effectively de facto King
He's young,and his apparent desire for reforms were seen as a positive step by many in the west
Women would be allowed to drive . But he is also a thug who will suppress dissent by whatever means necessary . They executed a 17 year old kid for non violent protesting Kashoggi was a journalist working for the Washington Post . He was in Turkey and had to go to obtain documents from the Saudi consulate. He's on cctv going in. He never came out, least not in one piece . Saudis denied everything until the Turks said they had audio of the event , including the killers discussing how to cut him up . The tapes were released to selective individuals then Saudi changed their story and claimed it was a rogue operation by MBS bodyguards .

The F1 track is just an attempt at Saudi PR
Personally my view the track is badly designed, meant to create drama by designers who had never really been involved in F1 . The only drama I saw was Toto throwing his Mic down
The rest was stop go stop

To be fair after I saw maxs tyres after first red flag I thought he would certainly be on hards not medium which is what they put on. Pirelli said good for 30 laps so several laps under safety should have seen him to the finish ok but didn't.

The little guy jumping through a hole in the fence close to a blind corner looking terrified is not my idea of safety in race . I personally hope that venue gets dropped
 
About 50 years ago my grandmother told me, "Money is the ruination of the world." I was just getting to be old enough to start school then, but for some reason that always stuck with me (besides her telling me she knew a little girl who was bad and the devil reached in a window at night and pulled her hair, to put some fear in me so I didn't act retarded! LOL).

Now I understand what she meant. The amount the common man makes compared to the 1% is just ridiculous. Someone will buy a Pokemon card for $36000, or buy a banana taped to a wall for a 150K, or a guy gets a three year contract to play baseball...for $140 million (I remember when the first $1 million contract was signed by someone (40 years ago or so IIRC).

But that's nothing compared to good old F1! Driver contracts, yeah I think they should make as much as they can given every time they do their job they risk injury or death (numerous precedents for that in racing don't you know!) so have no prob with that. If a dude can shag flies and swing a bat 20 or 30 times a night and get paid same as Hamilton, then drivers should get waayyyy more than they do using that logic.

But the drivers are nothing compared to the guys who buy an entire team so their kid can race, while there are other drivers without a mega rich dad who are much better than those who are driving based on the $$$ behind them. Or, to bring it back to topic, these wealthy sandrats who can drop enough cash that they essentially buy their way in to the schedule, while there are many other great tracks that would offer fantastic racing and depending on venue, have a history of hosting F1 races.

Its the way of the world now. Money talks. And more you have it the louder you are and the more will listen. F1 is for the rich and famous and powerful. Everyone involved, except for the grunt workers that bring a televised F1 race to you, are raking in the dough. Even the broadcast people like Pinkham, Brundle and Lazenby et al probably make a good chunk of quid.

I guess its all what they call progress?? Just too bad so few on the planet lead/live that lifestyle. I am sure if I had a billion to spare and called up those in charge of F1 and said I wanted to host a race and would give them a billion to come, they'd do it. I'd make it like the Avus GP that ran on the autobahn with two hairpins and use a highway outside the city! LOL Don't worry, I'd grease another 100 million to the local politicians to give me the permit and allow me to do it.

Enough on that nonsense. So, my teams were 1st & 2nd this weekend in the fantasy game! Since I had Max and Lewis as Megas, makes sense. Sadly, too little too late, but definitely got a bit closer to 3rd with that haul, only 17.5 out. My other team moved up one spot to 6th, only 4.5 ahead of Coccyxs team. Those are the closest battles left. @New Fag lead is over 300, so I am pretty sure FRR can't surpass you now.

In real world racing, its pretty clear whoever finishes ahead will win. The only way they can stay tied on points after the race is if Lewis gets P9 and Max P10 with FL. That would keep them tied, Max would win title based on # of wins. But the chance of that happening is pretty much non-existent. Oh yeah! There is another way they can end tied on points. If BOTH DNF. Hmmmmmmm... Unless Max can take Ham out without it looking like Schumi/JV '97 I don't think he would do it deliberately as that would likely cause some serious shitstorm and if it is blatant, it would tarnish his image to some degree. While a postrace penalty wouldn't matter, a DSQ from the standings, like they did with MSC, would be quite likely.

The WCC is Mercs' for sure, RB have to come 1-2 and Merc get zip basically for them to lose the title to RB. As for the big one, I hope Max solidly beats him and there is no crying about some cheating, favoritism or other garbage. If Max wins, even if everything is entirely clean next weekend and no controversies, how much crying and pouting do you think Toto/Ham will still do if they lose?

What are you guys hoping to see this weekend...a great scrap down to the last lap, Max running away with it (or Lewis, IF anyone in this thread likes him! LOL), someone else winning the race, or Senna/Prost in to first corner or similar type situation between the two of them?
 
Whilst I want Max to win, didn't he brake test Hambone and get only a slap on the wrist for it?

If Hamilton had fully crashed into Max, the FIA would likely have taken the same action as in 1997, when they excluded Schumacher from the Championship, and Max's 2021 campaign would have been over, rather than still alive.
 
Whilst I want Max to win, didn't he brake test Hambone and get only a slap on the wrist for it?

If Hamilton had fully crashed into Max, the FIA would likely have taken the same action as in 1997, when they excluded Schumacher from the Championship, and Max's 2021 campaign would have been over, rather than still alive.
After reading the stewards documents it was clearly DRS shenanigans between the two of them, i'm not surprised max got a light penalty
Unless Max can take Ham out without it looking like Schumi/JV '97 I don't think he would do it deliberately
There have been so many crashes in the final race through the years, and surprisingly many of them don't go penalized.
 
After reading the stewards documents it was clearly DRS shenanigans between the two of them, i'm not surprised max got a light penalty
Well, 10 seconds is the hardest they can go without outright diqualifying him I think. You can't give grid penalties for this kind of infraction... though I still stand by what I said: I see the fault primarily with Hamilton. Does the steward document mention whether Max actually braked or not? Didn't seem like it to me tbh, just going off the gas will make the car slow down like it threw out an anchor.

All prior to 1997.
And 1997 was FIA finally putting a stop to it in the most brutal manner, so no one dares attempt it again.
 
For many I think its more a case of not wanting Mercedes and Hamilton to win another drivers title. Hamilton was v disgruntled at McClaren because of lack of pace. Moving to Mercedes essentially won him most of his titles with not much competition.
This year is different, so like others I'm hoping it's a max win
Even with 7 titles Hamilton is still whining, and really he should show a bit more generosity
One race he reckons Bottas is being helpful to max and a traitor to him and Mercedes
Last race he was all over Bottas like a rash

One advantage max does have in the final is if they both tangle and DNF then max has more wins
 
Abu Dhabi is gonna be favoring RBR's set-up more, especially on the final sector. All Max has to really do is to perform as well as he did last year there.
 
@New Fag lead is over 300, so I am pretty sure FRR can't surpass you now.
We gave it our all, but will need a miracle to win the kiwifarms fantasy league. Ah, well, kiwifarms fantasy league doesn't have the same prestige...even though that's where the money is paid out...like, I'm sure no one remembers who won the 1996 kiwifarms fantasy league ;)
 
Abu Dhabi is gonna be favoring RBR's set-up more, especially on the final sector. All Max has to really do is to perform as well as he did last year there.
I hope so, but they have made some changes to the layout of the track for this year.
 
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