Formula 1 Discussion - And favourite driver?

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It's honestly not as crazy as it sounds, Wheatley has a rapport with Max, they have Bortoleto, a good friend of Max, and if Audi performs well enough maybe he'll be enticed to switch and try to pull a Schumacher to Ferrari type of move, build up a team to greatness. Plus Audi can hook him up with more racing series afterwards. They have the cash, they have the pedigree and the right people imo
 
I don't care they're going to be dogshit next year, Cadillac is on the grid and hopefully they don't repeat the mistakes of past manufacturing teams that get cold feet when a championship grid team isn't built in 3 years
 
Honestly if I were a team looking to gain Max, I'd be selling him endurance racing and sports car seats because that's what he really wants because he looks like he'll stay in F1 for about 3 years at this rate.
It's especially silly since Audi stopped its factory GT3 team in 2023 as part of the pivot to F1, maybe they could make some deal with Porche thought.

You need something to get Max interested and the way you do it is a team in GT3, WEC or similar and an offer to drive every round that doesn't clash with an F1 weekend and Audi gave up that bargaining chip.

If anyone of the current teams could prize max away I could see it being Aston Martin (if they make a good 2026 car). Go back to Newey designed machinery, Still can pay well, and they have cars/teams in loads of other racing for Max to basically take his pick.
 
I don't care they're going to be dogshit next year, Cadillac is on the grid and hopefully they don't repeat the mistakes of past manufacturing teams that get cold feet when a championship grid team isn't built in 3 years
I've been seeing AI slop videos about Cadillac coming on board to dominate because that's what Americans do.

There's a reason why America isn't a big presence in F1. We just don't have the culture that supports it; we tend to dominate when we actually give a shit about it. But like everything these days, everyone seems to think "If you build it, they will come", when in reality, it typically is the opposite: you build it because they came.

I'd love for a new team to come on board and be exciting, but does America have the patience to wait 3 years? Maybe we'll hit a culture swing where everyone realizes a slow burn might just be what the doctor ordered, for many areas of life, and they will build it up. But I'm not going to build my hopes on it.
 
I've been seeing AI slop videos about Cadillac coming on board to dominate because that's what Americans do.

There's a reason why America isn't a big presence in F1. We just don't have the culture that supports it; we tend to dominate when we actually give a shit about it. But like everything these days, everyone seems to think "If you build it, they will come", when in reality, it typically is the opposite: you build it because they came.

I'd love for a new team to come on board and be exciting, but does America have the patience to wait 3 years? Maybe we'll hit a culture swing where everyone realizes a slow burn might just be what the doctor ordered, for many areas of life, and they will build it up. But I'm not going to build my hopes on it.

Well America does have strong Endurance program why I'm excited for it because the hypercars are cool and competitive.
 
I've been seeing AI slop videos about Cadillac coming on board to dominate because that's what Americans do.

There's a reason why America isn't a big presence in F1. We just don't have the culture that supports it; we tend to dominate when we actually give a shit about it. But like everything these days, everyone seems to think "If you build it, they will come", when in reality, it typically is the opposite: you build it because they came.

I'd love for a new team to come on board and be exciting, but does America have the patience to wait 3 years? Maybe we'll hit a culture swing where everyone realizes a slow burn might just be what the doctor ordered, for many areas of life, and they will build it up. But I'm not going to build my hopes on it.
The problem with F1 is that it has a TON of gay rules. If it still had the open-ended rules it had in the era of the Braham fan car, it'd be a lot more popular in the US.

F1, not "football", is the most European sport in the world because it exemplifies the European love for bureaucracy.
 
I don't care they're going to be dogshit next year, Cadillac is on the grid and hopefully they don't repeat the mistakes of past manufacturing teams that get cold feet when a championship grid team isn't built in 3 years
One reason that may not happen this time is that costs are less and rewards are more.

I really want to see BMW and Porsche in F1 in some meaningful capacity.
 
One reason that may not happen this time is that costs are less and rewards are more.

I really want to see BMW and Porsche in F1 in some meaningful capacity.

Well honestly had the doomed teams of the early 2010s had the cost cap assurances that they have now, at least one of them might have been around to this day.
 
I've been seeing AI slop videos about Cadillac coming on board to dominate because that's what Americans do.

There's a reason why America isn't a big presence in F1. We just don't have the culture that supports it; we tend to dominate when we actually give a shit about it. But like everything these days, everyone seems to think "If you build it, they will come", when in reality, it typically is the opposite: you build it because they came.

I'd love for a new team to come on board and be exciting, but does America have the patience to wait 3 years? Maybe we'll hit a culture swing where everyone realizes a slow burn might just be what the doctor ordered, for many areas of life, and they will build it up. But I'm not going to build my hopes on it.
The thing that American teams of the past have tended to do is that they expect to do things their own way and then get very salty when their own methods are not actually optimal for sporting success. This is something the Japanese teams of the past had to learn the hard way, but at least they have shown more patience compared to the previous outings of Americans.
The problem with F1 is that it has a TON of gay rules. If it still had the open-ended rules it had in the era of the Braham fan car, it'd be a lot more popular in the US.

F1, not "football", is the most European sport in the world because it exemplifies the European love for bureaucracy.
You're being ridiculous. Americans don't like this sport because there isn't enough V8s that have all the refinement of agricultural equipment.
 
I really want to see BMW and Porsche in F1 in some meaningful capacity.
I utterly hate the factory team and corporatisation of the sport. I woild much prefer independents getting back in, but with the rules around what can/can't be bought and the insane complexity of the cars these days it will never happen.

Imagine where we'd be as a sport with the likes of Prost and Stewart sat in those meeting deciding the direction of the sport rather than faceless corporate drone #1 and #2 wanting the best roi for their shareholder overlords.
 
You're being ridiculous. Americans don't like this sport because there isn't enough V8s that have all the refinement of agricultural equipment
You realize that some of the finest engines are American v8s. I think we fail in making larger exotic and super cars because there's no real demand for an American supercar as the closest is the Viper. Id say American racing culture is more due to being more blue collar in origin than the gentleman's origin of Euro series barring rally.


Though I'll add that failures of Ford and GM in the past were due to thinking arrogantly they could come in and dominate without the legwork.
 
I utterly hate the factory team and corporatisation of the sport. I woild much prefer independents getting back in, but with the rules around what can/can't be bought and the insane complexity of the cars these days it will never happen.

Imagine where we'd be as a sport with the likes of Prost and Stewart sat in those meeting deciding the direction of the sport rather than faceless corporate drone #1 and #2 wanting the best roi for their shareholder overlords.
Back in the day I always loved the Williams Team when it was being run by Sir Frank Williams and Patrick Head, but eventually the sport got too complex for them and I had to accept that their era was over and never coming back.
 
I think the removal of jr teams killed a bunch of the fun of the 2000’s like super aguri.

Now we have two engines that are reliable and super safe cars that are tanks. They race on circuits that are either too small or designed by tilke.

I’m really missing the years of automotive companies dumping insane amount of cash into it.
 
I've been seeing AI slop videos about Cadillac coming on board to dominate because that's what Americans do.
Speaking of slop content regarding Cadillac's F1 car this video is top of the chart. Insufferable faggots influencers and almost no actual information. I hate advertising/marketing so much and don't really expect Cadillac to be anything but a wet fart.
Part of why F1 isn't popular in the states is there isn't enough places for advertisement breaks. If there are not 10 minutes of ads every 5 minutes of competitive play then no broadcasting company wants to deal with it.
 
Part of why F1 isn't popular in the states is there isn't enough places for advertisement breaks. If there are not 10 minutes of ads every 5 minutes of competitive play then no broadcasting company wants to deal with it.
Which is hilarious to me since no other sport is absolutely slathered in advertising the way both the drivers and cars are.

Seriously, I can only imagine the tens of hours spent in meetings about where the company logo is placed on the car. You can tell there are some poor, tired interns out there who are crunching data about what cameras are most used over a season so that marketing execs are on the phone negotiating for logos to be centimeters from where they're proposed to be, or which part of the car they get to be on.
 
I think we fail in making larger exotic and super cars because there's no real demand for an American supercar as the closest is the Viper
The new Corvette is best-in-class by far and competes with vehicles more than double its price. It's not an exotic because it's actually attainable.

Definitely helps that Euro manufacturers (cough Porsche) have jacked up their prices for no reason.
 
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The new Corvette is best-in-class by far and competes with vehicles more than double its price. It's not an exotic because it's actually attainable.

Definitely help that Euro manufacturers (cough Porsche) have jacked up their prices for no reason.
Corvettes and Cadillacs are insane value for the money in performance but yeah it's awesome a Vette will dust many super cars and still be attainable for the upper middle class man.
 
The new Corvette is best-in-class by far and competes with vehicles more than double its price. It's not an exotic because it's actually attainable.

Definitely help that Euro manufacturers (cough Porsche) have jacked up their prices for no reason.
I'm still sad that they went mid engined this generation. The previous generation was THE American sports car in my opinion. Fat, powerful engine in the front, rear wheel drive, bunch of torque, a great chassis that can do it all.
And now, while "affordable" and highly potent, it's just one of the hundreds mid engine super car offerings out there. They mostly look the same now.

And I hate how the luxury car market it now. Everything gets sold just to be flipped. Normal Joe doesn't have a chance to get his dream car, even if he had the money, because you need to have connections in order to get on the waiting lists. It's more exclusive this way. Absolutely gay.
And the used market is the same, because everything could be a future collectible, let's price it accordingly.
 
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