Formula 1 Discussion - And favourite driver?

[RomanesEuntDomus]

It's an absolute embarrassment for the sport and the supplier they get to build them. It is well known which materials do and don't get along with ethanol.

The UK and quite a few European countries have had E10 as standard from pumps for a while now and before the switch there was an awareness campaign for those that would need to retrofit to handle it.

The FIA need to have a review of why the hell this has happened from a company which is trusted to be the sole supplier of the component and this is the result. The switch to E10 has been long known about and they have had ample time to design and test the part.

As someone who works as an engineer designing systems which are safety critical I can't comprehend them not know this was going to be a problem and taking appropriate precautions.

Boggles the mind. All you need to do is pick a one gallon tank, fill that with F1's E10 fuel, slap the fuel pump on there so it just drops the fuel back into the tank and let it run on the max setting for 2.5 hours. Bam. You just did a worst case simulation for a timeframe that is longer than an F1 race is even allowed to be. Do that a couple of times and check for wear and tear every now and then.

If the double fuel pump failure on RB had happened 10 races in with the same fuelpumps they used from the start, I'd say okay, you might run into some issues with this kind of equippement after some time, but these pumps failed in the first race. That's indeed embarassing to the company that made the pumps.

Also, what was wrong with Verstappen's steering, do we know? Cause I doubt the steering got damaged by the broken fuel pump.

No idea about Porsche but there's been a bunch of rumors that Audi is going to buy Mclaren.

Audi McLaren just doesn't have a nice ring to it, don't you think? Minor point, yeah I know, but still.

 

[quaawaa]

No idea about Porsche but there's been a bunch of rumors that Audi is going to buy Mclaren.

Porsche and Audi are two brands from the same company (Volkswagen) and half their cars share their platform with a car from the other brand.

 

[LiveFromNS]

Also, what was wrong with Verstappen's steering, do we know? Cause I doubt the steering got damaged by the broken fuel pump.

I believe that one of the rods going to the tire got bent or something during the last pit stop when the car dropped from the jacks. Don't quote me, but pretty sure I read/heard that. Could have been a soundbite from Horner actually shortly after the race.

 

[DapperShark]

Porsche and Audi are two brands from the same company (Volkswagen) and half their cars share their platform with a car from the other brand.

I'm aware, thing is unlike Audi, Porsche does have a certain degree of independent decision making thanks to the Piech family being majority shareholders of the VAG group,

 

[LiveFromNS]

Fourth DRS zone added for F1’s return to Albert Park circuit​

Posted on 4th April 2022, 14:54 | Written by Will Wood

The Australian Grand Prix will be the first to feature four separate DRS zones around the lap this weekend as F1 returns to Albert Park.

The Melbourne circuit has undergone major re-profiling since the last Australian Grand Prix held at the venue in 2019, with a number of corners being made wider and faster in a bid to improve racing.

The Albert Park track map on the official Formula 1 website has been updated to show that the circuit now features four DRS zones to aid overtaking. This will be the first time a grand prix has been held with four separate DRS activation points around the circuit.

As well as the three DRS zones present at the circuit the last time the race was held in 2019 – along the pit straight, on the run to turn three and on the run to turn 11 – a fourth zone will be added on the newly-created straight approaching the fast chicane of turns nine and ten.

There will be two DRS detection points around the circuit. The first just after the re-profiled turn six at the start of sector two, which can be activated before and after the high speed chicane at the start of sector three. The second DRS detection point comes before the turn 13 hairpin just before the final corner and will be activated along the pit straight and after turn two on the run down to turn three.

This weekend will be the first time the Australian Grand Prix has been held since 2019. The 2020 event was cancelled on the morning of Friday practice after McLaren withdrew from the race following two of their team members testing positive for Covid-19 during the early phase of the coronavirus pandemic. The race was set to return to the calendar towards the end of the 2021 season, but was cancelled due to logistical reasons because of the Australian government’s Covid restrictions.

 

[Coccxys]

Ah some more sky cope.



"Oh maybe merc can suddenly win everything". Why merc eh sky why not wonder if McLaren, Haas or Williams can bring upgrades that give them a massive boost?

Fourth DRS zone added for F1’s return to Albert Park circuit​

Posted on 4th April 2022, 14:54 | Written by Will Wood

The Australian Grand Prix will be the first to feature four separate DRS zones around the lap this weekend as F1 returns to Albert Park.

The Melbourne circuit has undergone major re-profiling since the last Australian Grand Prix held at the venue in 2019, with a number of corners being made wider and faster in a bid to improve racing.

The Albert Park track map on the official Formula 1 website has been updated to show that the circuit now features four DRS zones to aid overtaking. This will be the first time a grand prix has been held with four separate DRS activation points around the circuit.

As well as the three DRS zones present at the circuit the last time the race was held in 2019 – along the pit straight, on the run to turn three and on the run to turn 11 – a fourth zone will be added on the newly-created straight approaching the fast chicane of turns nine and ten.

There will be two DRS detection points around the circuit. The first just after the re-profiled turn six at the start of sector two, which can be activated before and after the high speed chicane at the start of sector three. The second DRS detection point comes before the turn 13 hairpin just before the final corner and will be activated along the pit straight and after turn two on the run down to turn three.

This weekend will be the first time the Australian Grand Prix has been held since 2019. The 2020 event was cancelled on the morning of Friday practice after McLaren withdrew from the race following two of their team members testing positive for Covid-19 during the early phase of the coronavirus pandemic. The race was set to return to the calendar towards the end of the 2021 season, but was cancelled due to logistical reasons because of the Australian government’s Covid restrictions.

Oh fuck off with this fake overtake nonsense. You made DRS because the cars couldn't follow, the new rules are making it so they can why do we need this easy mode bullshit anymore?

How many classic overtakes, defensive drives would we not have had if DRS was a thing. Fuck the Senna vs Mansell battle, just give him a push to overtake button.

How many more times are we going to have to see drivers deliberately slow to let the other past before the DRS line and other such nonsense?at this point fuck it.

Let's just hold a twitter vote for which 3 drivers have DRS this lap should we? Just go full fuck it let's manufacture some bullshit. We're already adding as many Formula E type circuits as we can to the calendar, let's just go IRL Mario cart.

 

[Pee Cola]

Audi McLaren just doesn't have a nice ring to it, don't you think? Minor point, yeah I know, but still.

Hmmm... McLaren could rebrand Audi engines in the same way the Lamborghini uses rebadged Audi engines in some of their road cars. Otherwise I'd expect the team to race as McLaren-Audi. This is all assuming VAG buy McLaren (last time I checked they were considering buying both the racing team and the road car business).

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Geez... the way The Race are carrying on, you'd think that the Albert Park track was designed by Tilke. It's not that bad. Sure, it's not as good as Adelaide was, but it's far from the worst track on the F1 calendar.

Meanwhile, the Australian F1 GP could be a wet race.

 

[Coccxys]

Will be interesting to see the new inters/wets and how these cars function in the wet. On the plus side spray should be less of an issue in these cars since they shove the "used" air up instead of back.

 

[RomanesEuntDomus]

Will be interesting to see the new inters/wets and how these cars function in the wet. On the plus side spray should be less of an issue in these cars since they shove the "used" air up instead of back.

I think drivers already remarked that spray is way less of an issue in the new cars during pre-season testing.

Looking forward to the first wet race. I'll laugh my ass off if Mercs do even worse on slippery road, but with my kind of luck, that's going to be their bread and butter.

 

[Coccxys]

I'll laugh my ass off if Mercs do even worse on slippery road, but with my kind of luck, that's going to be their bread and butter.

They may well do so, they clearly have high downforce hence the porpoising and will have less of a straight line disadvantage due to less traction onto straights. Would be good for McLaren too, their cooling issues will be a lot less of a problem in the wet meaning less of a compromise on the aero.

Typically in the wet on the old cars you raise the ride height, I wonder if they will need to do that on these since keeping them as low as possible is the way to get best performance.

 

[Full Race Replay]

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I'm not super excited about these new track updates. Seems like the bend after OG turn 10 could be very dangerous now. We'll see how it goes. Also, adding a fourth drs zone is rediculous. The cat and mouse to not be first over the detection zone will be off the charts this GP.

 

[The Grognard]

Everyone's gonna be running a fairly high-downforce set-up in Melbourne anyways because it's got 4 DRS zones and the rest of the straights aren't either straight or long enough to really get much use out of in any duel of top speed.

 

[SargonF00t]

I'm not super excited about these new track updates. Seems like the bend after OG turn 10 could be very dangerous now. We'll see how it goes. Also, adding a fourth drs zone is rediculous. The cat and mouse to not be first over the detection zone will be off the charts this GP.

As The Grognard has stated, the straights at Melbourne aren't very long, I doubt we will see much overtaking due to DRS, even with 4 DRS zones.

 

[Balr0g]

Typically in the wet on the old cars you raise the ride height, I wonder if they will need to do that on these since keeping them as low as possible is the way to get best performance.

That is an interesting point. But even in the pre 2022 regulations the cars had low ride height so they could get more traction. This year the ground effect strengthens it which results in higher corner speeds. Though I think as long as the tracks are only lightly wet and not flooded with rivers (Sopa 2021) I don't see issues.

Then again Merc is bringing upgrades for this race. Let's see if those are actually good or for the trash bin. After all wind tunnel work doesn't simulate porposing. And more importantly how expensive are those upgrades? Spending money now is money you can't spend later this year thanks to the budget cap.

 

[Coccxys]

Cope harder skycucks



My theory at this point is they know its a lost cause but they also know hambone plastics make up 80% of their audience. Saying "nah he just ain't got the machinery (nor ability to win in subpar machinery)" will see their subscriber numbers dwindle.

 

[The Grognard]

My theory at this point is they know its a lost cause but they also know hambone plastics make up 80% of their audience. Saying "nah he just ain't got the machinery (nor ability to win in subpar machinery)" will see their subscriber numbers dwindle.

They remind me of Maple Leaf fans and Tifosi. Always thinking they can get the title against all logic and reason. Little to no respect to the actual sport when their people don't win. When rules are enforced on them, they throw a fit and claim bias but when someone else finds a smarter way of doing things, it's obviously cheating/disrespectful to do so it must be banned.

 

[Coccxys]

Heres an easy graphic for the changes they made to the track.



The only pieces I can see about this go on about making overtaking easier here, drs there, more overtaking in such and such.

The smooth brains who decide if a race/track are good based on the number of on track overtakes will be the death of the sport.

 

[Mikoyan]

Heres an easy graphic for the changes they made to the track.

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The only pieces I can see about this go on about making overtaking easier here, drs there, more overtaking in such and such.

The smooth brains who decide if a race/track are good based on the number of on track overtakes will be the death of the sport.

I've been saying this about F1 for goin' on 25 years and other series almost as long. They all go down a rabbit hole of 'overtaking is the goal', when it's not the goal. Racing is the goal. They spent so long fucking around with things that don't matter, putting tractor tires on the car, hybrid push to pass, DRS, that they lost sight of the goal: You weren't trying to make the cars pass each other, you're trying to make them -be able to pass each other-.

I saw someone on the internet when the tractor tires were announced, call it straight: huge tires for mechanical grip, -ban- wings, make the teams put a 'stabilizing fin' longitudinally along the engine cover to keep the sponsor acreage, then do some limited ground effect stuff. Like someone said, with the new cars clearly able to run together, I'm not sure why we're doing even yet more DRS.

 

[RomanesEuntDomus]

Heres an easy graphic for the changes they made to the track.

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The only pieces I can see about this go on about making overtaking easier here, drs there, more overtaking in such and such.

The smooth brains who decide if a race/track are good based on the number of on track overtakes will be the death of the sport.

Looks like they outright removed corner 6 and 7.

 

[Coccxys]

I'm not sure why we're doing even yet more DRS.

Because clown shoes displayed like Saudi where they fight to not be first across the line is great racing and we should totally embrace it / s

Looks like they outright removed corner 6 and 7.

I think they just massively widened it (7.5 meters!) to increase the ability of them going in side by side. They did the same to corner 1 to prevent "the funnelling effect" because heaven forbid you have a corner that doesn't allow them going flying in 3 abreast after a DRS zone, wouldn't want to to have to fight for position in the braking zone.

Probably opening up a debate here but the days of the late 80s and 90s were the peak for me, you had strategy, cars that could fight and some unreliability for added tension (but not half the cars giving up, half the drivers being killed and ridiculous gulfs in car performance like in previous eras).

Whenever you raise that point on reddit though you just get that graphic about "refuling era vs refuling banned" which shows so many more on track overtakes there are since it was banned as if a drs/push to overtake flyby is so much more exciting than the world of strategies they ran in the old days. Hell we don't even get interesting tyre strategies anymore, it's just what AWS tell them is best.