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With a (questionable) W from James Drake, how would you rate season 5 of Fishtank?

  • 1 Star — Absolute disaster. Unwatchable, boring, production fucked it up bad, the fish were lame

    Votes: 62 7.8%
  • 2 Stars — Pretty bad. Some funny moments, dragged, too many vibe repair days. Barely worth checking.

    Votes: 93 11.7%
  • 3 Stars — Average. Solid entertainment in spots, some good chaos and crashouts, but nothing special

    Votes: 180 22.6%
  • 4 Stars — Really good. Lots of hilarious moments, strong fish personalities, solid content and vibes

    Votes: 412 51.6%
  • 5 Stars — Peak Fishtank / Masterpiece. Non-stop insanity, legendary fish and production, pure chaos

    Votes: 51 6.4%

  • Total voters
    798
  • Had no actual realized plans for the plant (Damiel). It seemed like the only content Damiel made was from his xanied out brain.
  • Invited Damiel back onto the show with no clear plan as to what he would do when back on.
It's time for this retarded narrative about "plants" to die. Damiel was friends with several members of the crew so they let him come on the show. There was no secret plan for him to spy or get info because he wasn't there as a plant. What would a plant even do on a show that's being livestreamed 24/7 what info could they possibly leak to the crew that they aren't already seeing on camera? He along with the majority of the fish knew about MDE, Sam or Jet and were fans the only difference was he had directly interacted with them before.
 
It's time for this retarded narrative about "plants" to die. Damiel was friends with several members of the crew so they let him come on the show. There was no secret plan for him to spy or get info because he wasn't there as a plant. What would a plant even do on a show that's being livestreamed 24/7 what info could they possibly leak to the crew that they aren't already seeing on camera? He along with the majority of the fish knew about MDE, Sam or Jet and were fans the only difference was he had directly interacted with them before.
The idea of a plant isn’t to leak info to the crew, it’s to fuck with the fish in ways the audience cannot with the added benefit of the fish thinking it’s an actual contestant fucking with them instead of the crew. As an example, if Jet or a shark came up and fucked with a fish they can justify it as being apart of the show, “this sucks but I have to do it for the money.” If a plant fucks with them it seems less justifiable and will evoke a completely different more genuine emotion of hatred, “this person has no reason for doing this and is just being a dick.”

I’d agree with you that Damiel wasn’t a plant and just a friend of Jet who he let on the show, except Jet and the entirety of the Fishtank crew continues to this day saying Damiel was a plant. So either Damiel was a (terrible) plant as Jet says, or he wasn’t a plant and Jet insists that he was. The latter meaning Jet wasted a perfectly good contestant spot on a friend, gave him a phone, weed, and many special privileges for no reason and is continuing to lie to his audience. It’s a lose lose either way for him.

My personal guess is that Damiel was planned to be a plant by the crew, but like the vast majority of things on that list it wasn’t fully planned out and as a result we got a drug addicted wigger being annoying. Jet has too big of an ego to admit he was meant to be a plant, but the planning didn’t work out because he’s incompetent so he continues to insist that Damiel was a 200iq plant.

TLDR: Damiel was such a terrible plant he doesn’t even seem like a plant.
 
The latter meaning Jet wasted a perfectly good contestant spot on a friend, gave him a phone, weed, and many special privileges for no reason and is continuing to lie to his audience. It’s a lose lose either way for him.
That's exactly what happened. Also I don't remember anyone on the crew confirming him as being a plant.
 
You know there was that one night where Jon got so balls to the wall drunk during the Simmons cooldown party, and Jon was puking. I rightly remember them leaving him downstairs to sleep on his back for a solid while. So you can add that to jet's list of failures that he miraculously didn't have come to bite him in the ass.

That's exactly what happened. Also I don't remember anyone on the crew confirming him as being a plant.
What a shitty friend, being lazy af on your friend's "passion project"

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Why does Jet give such an increasingly violent reaction to KiwiFarms now? We literally didn't do anything!!!! :stress:
 
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Why does Jet give such an increasingly violent reaction to KiwiFarms now? We literally didn't do anything!!!! :stress:
Jet's family information and history on /r9k/ as a tripfag is documented in I think Sam's thread which bothers him. Not going to lie I'd be pissed too if I was him. Jet's not a lolcow. He's a wigger and not very smart but he's not a lolcow.
 
Late on this but while Josie was in NYC some of the josiecels put together a surprise for her in Times Square. Definitely embarrassed her but I'm sure she appreciated it after the fact. One of two josiecels who met up with her and recorded is Andy/tankwatching (Twitter).


Here's a cut Andy made with more of her reaction.

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Andy gives credits in a reply to that post which outs some notable weirdos on Twitter. I can't say they're all creeps but plenty are. If you've ever wanted to see who obsesses over her, I've linked the profiles below.
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@trollingesports - Makes art and shitposts, seems to enjoy the collaborative art streams
@SpruceTeamSix - Makes shorts she has up now, runs his own clip channel
@lrblasser - Luke, donates and buys a lot of stuff. Met her at Game On Expo
@hisocarl - Donates and used to buy a lot of troll things on her Throne page
@NathanCG - Active in stream chats, does his own streams. Featuring @Ducks3n lately
@AndyjackV - tankwatching, keeps up with Fishtank and Josie
@vicnoodle2 - Likes to drink. Also went to NYC. Likes making his drawings look like flags
@Queso_4_Life - Obsessed fan. Spams pics of Josie on 4chan and refers to her as his wife
@dokkaebi_1 - Obsessed German fan. Spams pics of Josie on 4chan, makes art, also calls her his wife
@onliny1ne__ - Makes art and contributed to the Plushie Pimp shirt and possibly upcoming patches
@RexPolaroyd - Is annoying on 4chan

Some others
@GucciManga - Edited the Anime Expo video and posts his own edits on Twitter
@HooterHotToes - Obsessed stalker
@DewkyShewt - Troll and huge Fishtank fan. Spams "big nose" edits of Josie on 4chan constantly. Active in Fishtank chat
@Ducks3n - Interviewed Josie at Anime Expo (link), general fan and active in stream chats

This is probably the most comprehensive list of "Twitterfags" conveniently bundled up, there are more but it's not that big of a deal. It's funny that they pretend they aren't a thing then Andy goes and does something like this.
She also started doing Youtube shorts and Tiktoks for her channel with the help of another fan, SpruceTeamSix (Twitter), and they've done alright.

Today she flaked on her stream with the only acknowledgement being a like on a Twitter post.
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I've been too busy to do proper stream summaries but overall it's more of the same.
 
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I don't think the content of the show is advancing culture but the project is "advancing" culture in a few different ways, whether you like Jet or not.
Advancing culture that was already well and truly circling the drain.....
I don't actually believe people hate jet so much as they are indifferent to his existence outside of his attachment to Sam. The fishtank is a let down by every metric, not a ip2 fag but I was hoping for that level of reality tbh.
 
So so so fucking cringe. Do they think josie is going to fuck them eventually or what? waifufags truly boggle my mind.
You have no idea... That said, I think she thinks it's cringe but appreciates the intent behind it now that it's over.
Her hardcore fans should consider that Josie, of all people, probably doesn't want to be put on the spot like that and then cornered with a "WHAT'D YA THINK?" from the people who put her there. Though the "cornering" took place on her first stream after NYC, I think she felt obligated to acknowledge it positively due to the effort put in by those involved more than the content itself.
 
Damiel was absolutely the plant, it's not in doubt. I think at most they didn't know the word for what they were doing with him or they didn't have any plan but I can lay out exactly how he was definitely the plant.
  • Damiel was in the house on day -1. The cameras were hot and Ben shouted Damiel's name and Jet told him not to say it, later Damiel arrived and was told to stay in the basement but eventually was allowed upstairs with a white shark mask on to use the toilet.
  • Obviously the phone thing, I don't think he actually did have weed but he was constantly using his phone in very obvious ways where if he actually won the grand prize after doing that on camera people would have gone ballistic. He was talking out loud to people in the YouTube chat asking for advice on what to do.
  • Damiel was removed from the house less than an hour after he had a fight with Jon that climaxed with Jon pointing out that he had seen Damiel in a photo with Sam. They pulled him initially because he was pointless if he couldn't even fool Jon. I think they probably reconsidered taking him away when the other fish said they missed having him there.
  • The deadlining thing I mentioned like 50 pages ago- Damiel told Vance his baby would be born on what was eventually the day Frank and Simon left the tank. It was a stupid lie but I assume if he stuck it out they wanted to give him a semicoherent thing to say on his way out the door to save him from accidentally winning.
I think before he was removed he was the plant, but without his phone on his return he was more there as just a spare contestant to fill the house with.

If they do do a plant again 1) they need to keep a much tighter grip on censoring TTS, including censoring TTSes that they don't understand 2) the plant needs to be directly responsive to requests from the audience with the producers having the final say.
 
If they do do a plant again 1) they need to keep a much tighter grip on censoring TTS, including censoring TTSes that they don't understand 2) the plant needs to be directly responsive to requests from the audience with the producers having the final say.
They also need to make sure the plant isn't stupid and starts shit in a better way. They need a plant that can do what Jons' autism allowed him to do.
 
Damiel is just their idiot errand boy now who picks up food or does whatever Sam tells him because he’s getting free housing and probably thrown a few bucks while for some reason they’re trying to prop him up as some kind of comedian.
The dude is so retarded he couldn’t even fool Jon.

I agree with what a lot of people have said that Jet’s ego is getting crazy. He has to be aware that if this project didn’t involve Sam it wouldn’t have succeeded at all. Jet made all the major fuckups and it’s so retarded seeing him sperg over not getting some rapper on the show. He was super unprofessional after the show with the cast as well and used poor judgement making quick decisions to bring people like Betty on without vetting her and then she caused problems and went on to snitch and talk shit about everyone on the show when she was gone after what, not even two days?

I think Sam is funny most of the time and Fishtank was a great premise but he definitely surrounds himself with very young yes-men. He pays their rent, gives them work and a little bit of clout and it seems cultish. Sometimes he reminds me of a younger, less fucked up Joe Exotic who just goes to a bus station or unemployment office to find people who have little to nothing and could never find gainful employment on their own and brings them in. It’s fine to give people a chance and teach them some valuable skills, but it seems like those are the only people who he will allow under his employ long-term as they know they’d be nothing without him.

If Sam keeps allowing Jet to moral posture and believe he’s actually some talented rapper, e-celeb, mastermind baller who keeps bringing in his brain dead, drug addicted wigger friends things are going to implode.

I don’t have a lot of faith in season two unless Sam takes over more and gives Jet way less control.

Edit: I understand Sam was busy with WP2 while season one was filming but his absence made it extremely boring most of the time. I got to where I was only checking in once or twice a day and just saw people sitting around in silence on the couch, spread out alone throughout the house doing nothing interesting or having unintelligible convos around the island so I just started watching when Sam said he was about to go in. After like three weeks of this I’d just check the clip channels on YouTube and twitter for anything interesting that may have happened that day and watched the finale live. Plus, that Willy Wonka ending was 100% Sam’s idea. Jet isn’t creative enough to think up something like that or act it out. I also think right before the Willy Wonka finale the angry speech Sam gave calling out the audience was actually how he felt to a certain degree. He hates most of his fans, especially the types of people who get super obsessive over things like fishtank but he’ll happily take their money. He seemed so bored and irritated towards the end trying to come up with final challenges for Josie and Letty off the top of his head and was probably creatively exhausted having to wing it with the final challenges after dealing with WP2.
 
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Today she flaked on her stream with the only acknowledgement being a like on a Twitter post.
Josie apparently did do her Friday stream, around 11PM EST/8PM her time. It was Halloween themed and reportedly very scuffed so she privated the vod. I was busy at the time so I wouldn't have been able to catch it live but I never got a notification before or after. Youtube is horrible with notifications, I get them hours after the fact or never at all
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This is probably the most comprehensive list of "Twitterfags" conveniently bundled up, there are more but it's not that big of a deal. It's funny that they pretend they aren't a thing then Andy goes and does something like this.
These people will occasionally pop into my feed and they have so many inside jokes and running gags they repeat on stream that they've got to have some kind of private group chat or Discord for their little group of Josiecels. Hooter (who I'm pretty sure was confirmed to be Tony from Hack the Movies, the fat neckbeard who had her review Willy Wonka with him) got into it with some other Josie fan on Twitter and long story short, some of these tards are deliberately making ugly edits and spreading rumors of her being a slut, I guess as some sort of weird negging thing? Or to get potential competition away from her so they have a better chance at being her boyfriend? The whole thread was pathetic, Hooter "joking" that he's insane, down bad, retarded, a bad person, etc. Then the whole thing got nuked before I got time to screenshot anything. My takeaway was that if these guys don't get enough acknowledgment or appreciation to feel like her #1 fans, then they'd rather be her #1 haters instead

Her Twitter following is such a cesspool sometimes,
Half of these guys will deactivate their Twitter accounts for a day or a few hours, half of the remaining ones will respond with "I blame Josie" or "It's so over". This happens like once a week
They keep posting their weird baby art of Josie and spamming the Josiegang hashtag with their atrocities
Andy is almost constantly doomposting, seems like he's severely depressed
That Bad Ideas guy is still DMing her, paying $5 every now and then asking her to read and pls respond to his presumably schizoid meltdowns
Luke is still giving $5 reminding her about something he sent her and wants her to look at
I almost forgot about that Joseierecipts account that was supposed to "expose" her or whatever back in September or August. I guess nothing came from that. I wouldn't be surprised if it was one of these freaks doing it

I get that every e-celeb has to deal with weirdos but Josie has got a LOT of them to deal with. It must be pretty embarrassing for her
 
Josie, Letty and Betty by far have the craziest fucking freaks orbiting them.

Betty fed into the freaks leading to people like @SkullHyde on Twitter who bought then posted to twitter her patreon porn of her pissing into the helmet and putting it on her head along with other NSFW content because I guess she wasn’t giving him enough attention on discord and he realized she’d never fuck him. Betty is also cringe doing weird shit like going after iDubbbz and Anisa because it was the cool thing to do back then, then backtracking saying she wasn’t trying to be mean to them when she was clearly trying to rattle them as she was on a Sam Hyde show. A lot of people in the house had negative shit to say about idubbbz at the time but hers felt like a grift when she was out because she was trying to fit in. Her orbiting of the entire Sam Hyde multiverse was weird. Following and trying to get attention from everyone down to Brandon Buckingham, Frank and Froggy Fresh (who wasn’t even on the fucking show and was just casually mentioned by airsoft fatty and Jon).

Josie and Letty have appeared to handle their weirdo stalkers the best. To be fair, I don’t know their personal lives and if they live alone, with boyfriends or family, but if I were them I’d be a little scared of one of these freaks finding me.
 
starts shit in a better way. They need a plant that can do what Jons' autism allowed him to do.
Agreed. The documentary is really showing off how bad Damiel's method is. Sitting 20 feet away shouting "shut up!" and "stupid bitch!" plays just as bad in the documentary as it did live, nothing can save it. And it's worse now that we find out Damiel was talking about punching Sylvia on day two, because his entire span of time in the house now is bookended by fantasizing about beating women.

I'm sure that's the height of comedy for the wiggers but some component of the show is parasocial and watching a man talk about how good it would feel to strangle the girls, punch the girls, punch his own mom... it's not funny.

All Jon had to do to tick people off was be bad at arguing and be overconfident. That's what people respond to. If you turn to someone and shout "stupid bitch" unprovoked they'll know you're trying to tick them off and it doesn't work.
 
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The time any of the Fishtank contestants can stay in even the shadow of limelight is limited, so it's pretty kooky that Betty is trying to ride this wagon so hard. Her impact on the show was mildly attractive woman who doesn't mind saying nigger on camera, very odd
 
WAIT A MINUTE I JUST REALIZED SOMETHING!!! When Betty airs her grievances about Fishtank or other contestants in a public setting, it's "based" and "giving the insider scoop"...However when Letty does it, it's her trying to use her own personal traumas to manipulate others emotionally...

How curious :cunningpepe:

Obvious autistic ramblings aside...

Just one question...what's the point of clans? Do they get their own chat rooms? I tried checking around and couldn't find anything on it aside from just being able to rep yourself. But then I saw this.

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Hypothetically speaking, do you think Jet would allow us to have our own Kool Kiwi Klan? Imagine going on there and seeing the KF logo with Threat Level: TOXIC. I mean it makes sense, right?

Her Twitter following is such a cesspool sometimes,
Half of these guys will deactivate their Twitter accounts for a day or a few hours, half of the remaining ones will respond with "I blame Josie" or "It's so over". This happens like once a week
They keep posting their weird baby art of Josie and spamming the Josiegang hashtag with their atrocities
I fail to see how Letty's fanbase is more insane than Josie's. These antics a long with the NYC greeting are things I thought would be real only in cartoons. You know like those cartoons where there's this one very attractive woman and like a whole flock of men are just lovestruck and all trying to get her attention? I wish I could remember a specific example. But it's like that.


Edit: Have all these Josiecels even considered that with all this effort being made to orchestrate these gestures of "kindness", only one of them would be able to get with her?
 
Knew there was something I forgot to share... Froggy has privated his Jon collab videos. He hasn't said anything about why and I'm not sure if it was this week or some time ago but you can't see either of them anymore.
Interesting. I just looked on Twitter and they’re not following each other and he’s following all the fish except Jon, Sylvia and Betty (barely a fish). I don’t know if he was ever following Sylvia or Betty but they were all streaming together two nights ago.

He has also removed the two songs he did with Jon from Spotify. He hasn’t removed any of the Sam content and is also following the rest of the MDE crew so it seems like a Jon problem.

Jon has been acting like a major faggot lately so maybe he got fed up with him. I don’t see any likes, replies or posts giving a clue what happened from either side. Now I’m super curious to know what Jon did to piss off Froggy Fresh enough for him to delete content and for them to unfollow each other because I highly doubt Jon was the one to get upset with him unless he’s pissed off if Froggy Fresh wouldn’t go on his podcast or didn’t want to work with him again. I’m leaning towards the former theory that Jon pissed off Froggy.

Tyler, I hate typing Froggy Fresh because it’s retarded, seems to have a hair trigger temper when people piss him off like with the idubbbz text exchange that idubbbz revealed so who knows. He probably won’t say publicly because it’d be seen as punching down on a “poor autistic kid”.
Jon might end up spilling the beans eventually, especially if he gets drunk again. That last stream with Jon, Sylvia and for a while Betty was a complete disaster. I popped in and out and couldn’t handle it.
 
question...what's the point of clans?
You can pool cash in them for the leader to withdraw. Periodically users are rewarded with XP for contributing $0.10 or more to the clan, so leaders are incentivized to grow and advertise an initiative that people will want to contribute to. Right now they are pointless so the branding and teams don't make sense, but what you can't see is that most "high" or "highest" clans have at least $500 pooled already.
What is likely is, if we had had clans last season, there would have been a "take Damiel's bed" clan or "give Josie a plushie" clan or "we only TTS jjjjj" clan, for examples.
I fail to see how Letty's fanbase is more insane than Josie's
They're something of a mystery to me, they seem to pop out in a flood whenever something happens even though Letty has been dormant and even though I don't see them talking amongst themselves anywhere on the Internet. I know she has a much smaller clique of usual suspects who don't seem to fight like Josies do, but she also has this iceberg of Chuds that appear out of nowhere for her.

Definitely not as insane as Josie's, not half as aggressive with trying to get her attention. Even FishtoesMcBack is just kind of merry and retarded.
 
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