First "Liberal" Mosque Opens in Berlin - bans niqab/burka/segregation, allows gays.

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https://www.rt.com/news/392558-german-mosque-bans-burqas/

Germany's first “liberal mosque” has opened inside a Protestant church in Berlin. Niqabs and burkas will be banned from the place of worship, with its organizer saying they are a “political statement” and “have nothing to do with religion.”
“Fundamentally, the mosque’s door is open for everyone, with one exception: No one will come in with a niqab or burka,” organizer Seyran Ates, who moved to Germany from Turkey when she was six years old, told Spiegel Online.

Banning the headwear often worn by females in the Muslim community isn't the only modern-day twist being brought to the Ibn Ruschd-Goethe mosque, which is named after Islamic philosopher Ibn Rushd (Averroes) and iconic German author Johann Wolfgang von Goethe, according to the Berliner Morgenpost.

According to Ates, men and women will also be allowed to pray and preach together, rather than separately. Members of the LGBT community will also be welcomed.

Sunni and Shiite Muslims are also encouraged to pray together at the mosque.

“Our goal is to offer a place to worship to all people that do not feel at home in the existing mosques, to women that seek equal rights [with men], to homosexuals and primarily to all separate [Muslim] denominations: Alawites, Sunnis and Schias,” Ates told Ruptly.

Ates, a feminist, peace activist and lawyer, said she felt it was "ultimately irresponsible" for a progressive Muslim woman like herself to simply complain about conservative Islamic organizations, rather than start her own mosque.

She said she was inspired to launch the mosque after speaking to Finance Minister Wolfgang Schäuble, who once told her that liberal Muslims should band together.

“I worked on this idea for eight years and finally found supporters,” she told Ruptly, adding that she believes that all those people who came to her aid did it because they “were fed up” with conservative Islam and had “courage to express their true thoughts despite all the threats.”

Ates is renting space for the mosque from the Protestant St. Johannes Church. However, she previously told DPA that she hopes the mosque will one day have its own building.

She said she aims to reach "those who have not felt at home in any mosque in Berlin," who want to live a "modern, peaceful, liberal, and tolerant faith" and "do not want any politically divisive sermons."

READ MORE: ‘We do not wear burqa:’ Germany’s interior minister favors introduction of ‘dominant’ culture

She also hopes she can reach more conservative Muslims, noting that this is only achieved "through setting an example, open doors, in a space where every question can be asked."

“Here we do not tell anyone what a good Muslim is, and what a bad one is.”

The first day of prayer will see Ates preach in German, with her words translated into Turkish and Arabic.

However, Ates said the path to opening the mosque hasn't been entirely smooth, and that she has received some "very violent and obscene" threats which prompted her to request police protection at the mosque's Friday opening.

Ates admitted she was afraid for her security, but her primary concern was the security of the congregation. “I can take care of myself and say, ‘It is my life,’ however, I am afraid that something happens to the others,” she told Ruptly, adding that she must “protect her people.”

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this is going to get truck of peace'd so hard.
 
This is how any religion should operate, but yes, it will get attacked by terrorists.
 
How are we handling the betting on this for being Peaced? I wager 5 didnus or 3 good boys on getting Peaced in the first month.
Or are we betting on method of Peacing? 5 or 3 on a firebomb.
 
Not only will it be blown up by a truck of peace, somehow, the whiteys who get the job of explaining it to the public will blame the mosque itself for actually being a reactionary hate group.
 
You realize not all Islams are like the ones who constantly blow shit up? If they all were, there would be way more shit blowing up, considering there's 18 gorillion of them.
 
I dunno, if the extremists try to truck of peace this Mosque it might just be the thing to get European governments to finally put the foot down on them. Rate me optimistic but I feel like them going after other oppressed brown Muslims, especially ones who are cool with lgbtq people, isn't going to be tolerated nearly as well as them going after whitey.
 
I dunno, if the extremists try to truck of peace this Mosque it might just be the thing to get European governments to finally put the foot down on them. Rate me optimistic but I feel like them going after other oppressed brown Muslims, especially ones who are cool with lgbtq people, isn't going to be tolerated nearly as well as them going after whitey.

The only thing Islams love killing more than non-Islams is each other. That's the root of this entire refugee crisis in the first place. All Europe's leaders do when confronted with this is point out how this clearly means it's got nothing to do with Islam because if religion was the sole motivator why are they killing so many members of their own religion?
 
I dunno, if the extremists try to truck of peace this Mosque it might just be the thing to get European governments to finally put the foot down on them. Rate me optimistic but I feel like them going after other oppressed brown Muslims, especially ones who are cool with lgbtq people, isn't going to be tolerated nearly as well as them going after whitey.

Absolutely not. Liberal Muslims have been reaching out to secular governments in Europe for decades now asking for help protecting them from threats from radicals in the community and they've done jack all to help. It wasn't just white children who were abused in Rotherham, for example, and the police ignored tips and warnings from Muslim families just as much.
 
I dunno, if the extremists try to truck of peace this Mosque it might just be the thing to get European governments to finally put the foot down on them. Rate me optimistic but I feel like them going after other oppressed brown Muslims, especially ones who are cool with lgbtq people, isn't going to be tolerated nearly as well as them going after whitey.

Considering where the Turkish situation is going and how the West has reacted to it, I wouldn't count on an overt reaction to the Islamic situation in Europe coming any time soon.

This "liberal mosque" better be a converted Taco Bell or something, because I'd say the guys up top predicting Truck of Peace visits are probably not far off in their estimations. There is a good chance that some "pious" loony out there aims to make the place a drive-in.
 
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It's kinda nice to see someone actually trying to help Islam come away from being the massive mess it's become by encouraging people to co-exist and be friends with one another instead of actively segregating because a book told them to

Too bad it is guaranteed to get truck of peace'd because someone thought it was blasphemy
 
A female Islamic preacher, and preaching in German rather than Arabic. Props I guess. A genuinely positive development.
In b4 bomb.
 
Absolutely not. Liberal Muslims have been reaching out to secular governments in Europe for decades now asking for help protecting them from threats from radicals in the community and they've done jack all to help. It wasn't just white children who were abused in Rotherham, for example, and the police ignored tips and warnings from Muslim families just as much.

While it's sad that just "police please help us because savages our raping our children" constitutes "liberal" in Islam, it's absolutely ridiculous not to reach out to these communities and try to bring them in to civilization.

If every single Muslim were a bomb-throwing maniac, like many of you seem to think, terrorist events wouldn't be a weekly or a monthly thing. They would be an hourly thing, and every single city in the world would be on fire at all times.

How hard is this to understand?
 
While it's sad that just "police please help us because savages our raping our children" constitutes "liberal" in Islam, it's absolutely ridiculous not to reach out to these communities and try to bring them in to civilization.

If every single Muslim were a bomb-throwing maniac, like many of you seem to think, terrorist events wouldn't be a weekly or a monthly thing. They would be an hourly thing, and every single city in the world would be on fire at all times.

How hard is this to understand?

Because your appeals to rational thought with the goal of gradually bringing reform to Islam over a long-period and trying to cast a light on the repressive nature of the Islamic communities that have become embedded in western nations is gay as fuck. Clearly we should all be in-favour of policies that cannot actually be enacted such-as deporting "the Muslims" (even though they only have citizenship in your country) or blind reaction that won't address the problem./sarcasm

Whether we like it or not guys, the Muslims are here and have been for decades. With citizenship and everything. Unless your an advocate for genocide or empowering the government to remove citizenship on racial grounds things aren't going to go back to how they were. Maybe we shouldn't have encouraged mass-immigration into the UK for all these decades and allowed these immigrant enclaves to develop. Too late now.

That's why its important to get rid of the apologists so these communities can finally be uplifted.
 
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Because your appeals to rational thought with the goal of gradually bringing reform to Islam over a long-period and trying to cast a light on the repressive nature of the Islamic communities that have become embedded in western nations is gay as fuck. Clearly we should all be in-favour of policies that cannot actually be enacted such-as deporting "the Muslims" (even though they only have citizenship in your country) or blind reaction that won't address the problem.

Bullshit. What you say is definitely true about the crazy elements. They're not going away.

But just pretending every single person who claims to be a Muslim is automatically an insane murderer is equally insane.

Do you actually think deliberately increasingly marginalizing the parts of the community that are trying to integrate into the community is going to make things better? Why do you think that? How do you think that works?
 
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