Fire Emblem series

[Ceiling Kitten]

Here’s a deep lore : the original script was written by a manga author - forgot the name- and he wrote like 2000 pages total for all routes. Unfortunately, some fuckhead decided against the draft and locked the whole thing inside a vault, until their asses get Teraleaked somehow there is no way for us to know what’s in there.
With that said IS did share few points about what was in there:

• Fucking Hinoka wasn’t originally there at all. I find this extremely hilarious because it does explain why she barely has any presence in Birthright and especially Rev. Unless if you actively fielded and supported her ass you will forget about her existence until the final cutscene.
• Sakura was basically another Elise

So yeah, Fates was completely butchered because they found it funny.

The one who wrote the plot was Shin Kibayashi, the author of The Kindaichi Case Files and GetBackers among other stuff.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shin_Kibayashi

 

[Lone MacReady II]

China has blacks as extras in their films, Crazy Tsunami (2021). They even marry blacks. A Chinese woman who called a black a nigger was forced to apologize, happened some months ago.

Wooooooow movie extras despite them removing niggers entirely from their posters... I guess China must really worship at the feet of niggers just like the Kosherized west does. I'm sure those .00001% mudshark chinks out there are also very well respected by other Chinese in their community, LOL, nice try dude. To quote a Chinaman in Wakanda, "It's all so tiresome".

In Fire Emblem the writing might as well be black and white since the games always cuck in having actual moral issues and differences in worldview.

Kaga did it first! The black and white AND the morally grey Fire Emblem stories. What a well-rounded guy.

 

[NerdShamer]

Sounds like I've got a good time ahead of me. I'll stop trying to care too much about the story and enjoy it for what it is

<groans of increasing discomfort>

 

[Metamorpho]

If making you play as an underprivileged urban youth isn't bad enough, they have literally blacked the generic enemies.
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Oh God, they made the bad ending canon then.

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They went with some nerdy girl whose design doesn't even fit with the time period, and the dude, well, i could accept the tan, but the tarantula hair makes me think that he's supposed to appeal to certain demographics, which is not me.
God, that hairstyle is awful, who in their right mind would choose that of all things?





Also, Rhea did nothing wrong and Silver Snow route is objectively the best one.

I feel like shitlibs are still going to bitch about the designs because they aren't le hecking dark enough like they did with a bunch of the Genshin Impact cast.

 

[NerdShamer]

Honestly, I'd expect them to bitch about the setting first,

 

[Bixnood]

Fates sucks ass, everything about it sucks ass, the charater designs, the story and even the game play is just awakenings gameplay with bloat.
I payed through all three paths and it was rough, even the norh path sucked.
Charaters lack any personality other than waifu or husbando shit.
Worst game is the series and its not even close.

 

[Freezard]

PoR started it cringely,

I mean Devdan looks pretty black for an anime character, but there's literally nobody else in the game that looks like he does so I have no idea what the fuck he's supposed to be.

He's pretty fucking orange for a subsaharan though, in a setting where there's no evidence Africa exists since in Tellius niggers come from Kilvas. Is he an Oompa Loompa? Or is he-

You know what, yeah, that's probably it.

He tends to get sidelined as a replacement for Nephenee though, since there's rarely any reason to use two soldier classes (even though they have support levels, bizarrely) especially when the first is in a miniskirt that belongs in Sacred Stones and a rare respect for head protection. A bit of a shame, since I find Devdan a compellingly strange character, with his evasiveness towards his true personality that only appears in snippets because of his self-inflicted schizophrenia. I feel you only get his "real" persona with Tormod, every other person getting a warped comedian persona with various levels of him bothering to explain his whole deal.

 

[Gorton Colu]

I liked Fates more than 3H tbqh. Music was better too which helps alot.

What also helps is that I had extremely low expectations for the story because it was very weeb oriented and most JRPGs and anime have lacking stories. I just enjoyed the retardery for what it was. The combat was good enough.

Spoiler: Awakening Spoilers

Awakening's story makes much more sense with a female Robin as that explains Chrom's simpery when she just assumes an important role in the army as a complete stranger. Grima's possession is more interesting with a Chrom and Female Robin romance too. Now I know some argue that a male Robin romance with Lucina is just as interesting, but I disagree for one reason. I remember almost asphyxiating via laughter when Lucina confronts Robin as her mother and argues that she has to kill her mom to save her dad. Peak writing right there.

 

[A Very Big Fish]

I mean Devdan looks pretty black for an anime character, but there's literally nobody else in the game that looks like he does so I have no idea what the fuck he's supposed to be.

The thing with Devdan, and Danved, who is definitely not Devdan, is he very clearly felt like he was supposed to be a foreigner who just kind of chooses to get involved, so it doesn't feel as strange to me that he's clearly from a different ethnic group. Whereas, for example in Fates, Benny looks like he's from a distinct ethnic group, yet he also seems to be from Nohr, and the only character who he has backstory with (Charlotte) doesn't share his complexion.

Awakening's story makes much more sense with a female Robin

I just think that Lucina being Robin's daughter feels infinitely less weird than if Robin is a dude and marries his best friends time-traveling child. That being said, Lucina's mom (except for the generic villager option) just deciding, "Fuck it, back off to war" when they have a two year old daughter is insane.

 

[Computer God Autism]

I just think that Lucina being Robin's daughter feels infinitely less weird than if Robin is a dude and marries his best friends time-traveling child.

Alternatively, Male Robin can just... marry someone else. Someone more interesting than Lucina no less.

 

[Gorton Colu]

"Fuck it, back off to war" when they have a two year old daughter is insane.

Yeah, that cracked me up too. Robin is a strong and independent woman who's not going to let motherhood derail her career in the Army.

Alternatively, Male Robin can just... marry someone else. Someone more interesting than Lucina no less.

Who? Youre pretty railroaded in Awakening when it comes to character romance support. Crom and Lucina are the most developed and interesting party characters on the whole with the most signigficant story beats. In subsequent playthroughs of Awakening I didnt even bother with S supports after doing them with Crom and Lucina.

Fates was better than Awakening here as I never felt compelled towards one character or another.

 

[wtfNeedSignUp]

It would have been pretty cool if Awakenings children had their Paralogue take place in that bad future where you basically have to survive to get to the past while every other unit dies.

But the existence of a time skip bad future that is only alluded/underdelivered is a modern series staple. Like 3 Houses talking on a total war where you get to kill at max four characters since the game allows you to recruit pretty much everyone. It just cucks out on the edge. I wouldn't be surprised if the new game also does that.

Not that it would matter besides multiple playthroughs. How Three Houses should have been is letting you cycle the classes and only before the timeskip allowed you to choose a class without any recruitment bullshit.

 

[Computer God Autism]

Who?

You have every female character as an option and unlike Chrom the game doesn't railroad you into preferring one - even setting aside Tharja being obvious waifu-bait, Cordelia, Tiki, Olivia, even Sumia and Lissa were all pretty popular pairings for Robin because their supports were good. Lucina was the most popular because of being a constant present in the story cutscenes and the family drama dimension, but because of Awakening's emphasis on replayability and supports it's not hard for people to find a character romance they prefer on other playthroughs.

For example, I married Lucina on my first playthrough because I got Awakening a bit later and saw how popular that was, but I didn't think she had any real chemistry with Robin and didn't go with her on any of the subsequent dozen or so playthroughs I did. Comparatively I felt more railroaded to pick Felicia in Fates than Lucina in Awakening because the other options were either a choice between pseudo-incest or characters Corrin just met worshipping him more than his own maid (it helped her supports with Corrin were genuinely sweet).

 

[Berrakh]

even setting aside Tharja being obvious waifu-bait

I dunno. Tharja predated the wide recognition of “I can fix her” retardation. I think they just made an off-beat girl who is horrible but it made her memorable and fun because some toxicity is hot and popularity is often a race to the bottom.

I just think she’s boring.

 

[Gorton Colu]

That's my issue with the alternatives to Lucina. Theyre mostly boring. Lucina is not great mind you, but comparatively she's in her own league. You really have to rely on a lot of head canon to overcome the lack of interesting plots involving the other characters.

 

[Berrakh]

They have just enough character to cover the pre-timeskip period.

 

[Computer God Autism]

I dunno. Tharja predated the wide recognition of “I can fix her” retardation. I think they just made an off-beat girl who is horrible but it made her memorable and fun because some toxicity is hot and popularity is often a race to the bottom.

I just think she’s boring.

Yanderes and hot goth girls are tropes that well predate 'I can fix her', Awakening is at least self-aware enough to be honest about how screwed up both are.

Lucina is not great mind you, but comparatively she's in her own league. You really have to rely on a lot of head canon to overcome the lack of interesting plots involving the other characters.

What about Lucina's character puts her in her own league? This is FE, most people care more about the character displayed in the support convos than their involvement in story cutscenes.

 

[Gorton Colu]

What about Lucina's character puts her in her own league? This is FE, most people care more about the character displayed in the support convos than their involvement in story cutscenes.

I already stated that it was due to her involvement in the story. The support conversations dont exist in a vacuum. Four levels of dialogue are not enough to propel a character significantly without more context and information. Lucina was the most popular male Robin romance option for a reason. Its also why she got added to Smash with Crom and Robin(s).

Same reason why Felicia was one of the most popular romances for Corrin. Her greater involvement gave her a distinct popularity advantage.

 

[Computer God Autism]

The support conversations dont exist in a vacuum.

They functionally do in Awakening - Nowi and Ricken's support chain is remarkable in that it involves a third character appearing, because they're otherwise the only vehicles for two characters to talk without having to have the subject hinge on the story. Because there are so many side-characters and permadeath is a constant consideration FE can't really do what most rpgs would in having party members constantly chime in or have their own sub-plots that run parallel to/interconnect with the main story. I think that was also one of the reasons 3H was so good at capturing people's attention since it did try to make the side-characters more involved in the story and gated support convos around the timeskip.

Four levels of dialogue are not enough to propel a character significantly without more context and information.

Sometimes, which is why you're given more than four levels of dialogue for every character - few people ship Virion and Robin but most people like their platonic convos because they're good character showcases. In that sense they're not in a vacuum because holistically they are what makes the characters in FE. Guess I just found her revealed personality to be less engaging than what she does in the story cutscenes.

 

[Berrakh]

Yanderes and hot goth girls are tropes that well predate 'I can fix her', Awakening is at least self-aware enough to be honest about how screwed up both are.

They blew up in the 2010s though. I just wouldn’t think of her as deliberate waifu bait. In no small part because she was effective almost for how awful she could be.