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Not sure I agree with calling Edelgard disliking the church and old hierarchy SJW. Napoleon was like that. And she’s likened to Napoleon.

It’s the sort of flimsy ideologuing that makes people call Sylvain a PUA, Dorothea a socialist, and so on. When Sylvain doesn’t practice anything close to Game and Dorothea isn’t against Wealth,
I don't think El is some heroic revolutionary or even really that concerned with social justice, but her declaration of war reeked of anti-aristocratic and anti-clerical rhetoric. There is certainly a theme of Edelgard utilizing revolutionary rhetoric to make her war of aggression sound justified, and then making herself into a dictator with a small circle of advisors being the only sort of check on her power.
 
I don't think El is some heroic revolutionary or even really that concerned with social justice, but her declaration of war reeked of anti-aristocratic and anti-clerical rhetoric. There is certainly a theme of Edelgard utilizing revolutionary rhetoric to make her war of aggression sound justified, and then making herself into a dictator with a small circle of advisors being the only sort of check on her power.
I think it’s Napoleonic is all. He had those same bugbears.
 
I don't think El is some heroic revolutionary or even really that concerned with social justice, but her declaration of war reeked of anti-aristocratic and anti-clerical rhetoric. There is certainly a theme of Edelgard utilizing revolutionary rhetoric to make her war of aggression sound justified, and then making herself into a dictator with a small circle of advisors being the only sort of check on her power.
I mean the church is very sketchy and Rhea sucks. So to me being "anti-clerical" isn't that unreasonable in this story, even Claude doesn't like the church he just also doesn't like dictatorship due to him being a nicey nice "freedom and diversity good" sort of guy.

I don't think Edelgard's war is that unjustified and that it boils down to "Edelgard is a SJW libtard" when argued unironically, it just reeks of savior complex when you listen to her specifically talk which overshadows things alongside the church not being very well explained. If we had more then maybe two incidents to explain why the current direction of the church sucks, and had more actual backstory to explain what things were like prior to Byleth's introduction into the plot, you can justify all of this. 3H is just not well explained and half asses good ideas, so it all comes down to how well you want to take those ideas for what they're trying to convey vs what they actually convey.

If you take what they actually convey, to me every major player in this political game is kind of a retard or mentally ill. Except for maybe Claude as Claude is just inoffensive beyond how much the plot jerks off his intelligence
 
I noticed that 3H is one of those games that sounds awesome when you take it out of context; but the actual plot almost feels like an piece that an edgy teen would draft out.
Except for maybe Claude as Claude is just inoffensive beyond how much the plot jerks off his intelligence
You're forgetting the nonexistent racism that's he's dealing with.
 
I noticed that 3H is one of those games that sounds awesome when you take it out of context; but the actual plot almost feels like an piece that an edgy teen would draft out.

You're forgetting the nonexistent racism that's he's dealing with.
It is so nonexistent I forgot that it was even a thing until you brought it up. The only thing I vaguely remember is Hilda is marginally racist because her family has to hold off Claude's people from the border constantly,

3H's plot feels like a solid first draft or a marginally fleshed out skeleton for a story, but IS just can't deliver big scope ideas for whatever reason. Anything that has a cool big scope idea (3H and Fates) just fucking sucks in execution because they seem to have to half ass shit. Remember when Fates had some big deal author write out a huge book of lore for the setting? Yes Fates has deep lore somewhere, we just have no idea where because IS didn't use it.
 
All I saw was an pirated artbook and an series of hieroglyphs within your castle.
So Fates hired a writer who made from what I understand a 500 page plot summary for each of the 3 paths (as-in 500 for each path), he was originally going to make a 10 page summary but he liked the plot and characters so much that he went full autismo mode on it. Their was a lot of stuff supposedly cut from this original draft, which is probably why characters like Rinkah and the whole ice tribe people exist as this weird side group of people who get mentioned once or twice and then forgotten about immediately.
 
His scheme is to destroy Fodlan and George Soros it with barbaric Almyrans when no-one remains to stop him.
that's actually an okay time to use contemporary politics to describe a character because it doesn't change anything major. Nor is it somehow screwing up a historical context. He wants looser borders. That in of itself is a contemporary idea.
 
All I'm saying is if Dimitri and Edelgard had just fucked and gotten it over with, maybe the story could have moved forward instead of needing Claude to play Scooby Doo.

I really hope Team Ninja's fix fic works, since i'm actually thinking of buying it.
 
3H's plot feels like a solid first draft or a marginally fleshed out skeleton for a story, but IS just can't deliver big scope ideas for whatever reason.
With 3H specifically I blame it on the route split, bad presentation and over abundance of exposition through text only; so much stuff happens off-screen only.
The story easily would've been fleshed out more if there were less routes but I guess that'd also take away from what the game was trying to go for with the multiple lords.
 
With 3H specifically I blame it on the route split, bad presentation and over abundance of exposition through text only; so much stuff happens off-screen only.
The story easily would've been fleshed out more if there were less routes but I guess that'd also take away from what the game was trying to go for with the multiple lords.
The routes are important and very useful if you want to tell a war that can be justified from multiple perspectives like 3H tries to do without a bunch of incredibly contrived nonsense like "Here's the scene where Edelgard just talks about her childhood to a wall for the next 10 minutes, or to Hubert who already knows this information.". Byleth conceptually being used to drag all their is to see out of the 3 lords is useful to get the information you need to convey without forcing out exposition solely for the audience. Byleth is just a boring self insert, but his purpose is fine and an effective way to get characters like the lords to openly talk about themselves. 3H lacked the overall ability (budget, competence, time, etc) to use this ambitious story well, and when it comes to Byleth they lack vision as Byleth being a mute self insert is a terrible choice for what he's used for.

IS needs to just stop with these route reliant stories and make a singular story again. 3H is made with routes in mind, but IS can't do route games to save their lives so this story doesn't work with them. It is a wasted concept on an incapable studio or this is an ambitious idea that went through too much development hell and was forced out the door just to move on, either works given how much radio silence three houses had for awhile after it was first shown off.
 
and when it comes to Byleth they lack vision as Byleth being a mute self insert is a terrible choice for what he's used for.
All it could have took was removing the voice lines so that we could get an engaging conversation like Robin occasionally provides...Or just write it off as being silent from getting PTSD as an child soldier.

Plus, it's kind of weird how he can teach his students how to do everything while simultaneously learning nothing about it, himself.
 
He's probably more likely to be killed by consuming vast quantities of pepsi.
Diabetes risk is putting it lightly with all the artificial sugar
lol nice missing the point and proving my own.
The Egg is hefty, but he isn't a deathfat. I bet he'd make it to old age, especially if he really has quit drinking, since that should decrease his calorie intake.
15 years of drinking and being overweight isn't exactly a shinning base for a long life.
 
I dislike how they wrote Edelgard. I wish all three lords just.......
lived. Bad shit happen to her and yeah she basically becomes Bloody Mary Tutor but idk.....I feel bad for her. I wish she and Dimitri made up with a happy ending. Too sad. :(

Like her two routes were just meh. Idk.

Maybe Three Hopes will change things? (Unpopular opinion but the musou combat would definitely be much better suited to this FE as opposed to the grid based strategy. Just my opinion)
 
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