Fanfiction Horrors

[Petrusha the White]

Pooners write male (or "male") characters in really ass backward retarded ways that make you wonder if they suffer from purposeful amnesia where they pretend they've never witnessed the male of the species existing in the flesh before. What they think could even possibly be conceived as male typical behavior and relations to each other is straight up bizarre to the point it's actually fascinating in a way. It's so egregious that even "men writing women" don't get things so horrifically bad IMO.

I think a large part of this is simply the fact that there's a damn near 1:1 overlap with people identifying outside of their sex and being a raging narcissist. Yes, even pooners, despite the fact that they often get stereotyped as just confused teenage girls who think that being "a man" will make them "safe". (I mean, this is still likely a part of it for any given pooner since they do definitely tend to obsess over safety. But they will also narc rage at you if you, say, call them a she.) Narcissists are basically incapable of mentally modeling the behavior of other people.
Also, some of these bitches dumb for real, which also makes it hard to mentally model the behavior of other people. And what is writing if not creating and executing these models?

 

[under_scores]

What I wonder is why they didn't do this with the Zombies crew. Now there's a group of men begging for the whump/lemon/kinktober treatment. But the Modern Warfare remakes? What?

 

[MeemVoyage]

What I wonder is why they didn't do this with the Zombies crew. Now there's a group of men begging for the whump/lemon/kinktober treatment. But the Modern Warfare remakes? What?

I imagine it's due to the lore and timeline(s) being an absolute mess to the point where a lore breakdown video is seven hours long. Granted I haven't been able to get through it yet, and as of now I have seen pooner Zombies stuff, but I imagine that does out a damper on it being as rampant as with the MW2 reboot.

 

[Chandelier]

While waiting for the new season of Arcane (and, of course, for Coming Home to get updated) I decided to peruse some older T4T Viktor/Jayce fics. This one was written by an FTM (of course) so you can expect authenticity. Here is the link to the first fic. Archive.

Suuuure you do, honey. Let's see how 'strangely sexy' this really is.

Spoiler

If you're wondering if this dialogue sounds very campy to the point it ISN'T self aware - one might even say they talk like teenage girls - you would be right. This attempt at snark falls flat, and it only highlights how feminine Viktor is, which you'll see emphasized next.

> Wants to be angry so badly
> Easily overpowered
> Can't decide whether to be horny because of the sexy blacksmith or not
> Easily made horny
Jeez, even actual gay men at least want to set up the scene. Where is all the face bashing and spitting out loose teeth? There's a fight and fuck I can get behind. This? Weak. Trans men can't do shit.

Without proper grammar, this dialogue is flat as fuck. The author is trying to make them sexy and horny and it makes me think they characters themselves are unsure of what to do or say. Amazin'.

This smut is so easily choreographed I rolled my eyes. It's so obvious what Viktor is trying to do here: he's trying to be tough and domineering, and yet fails because Jayce is oh-so-sexy. The actual Viktor would know how to tie knots, for one, and would be taunting the shit out of Jayce. This is, as the kids say, weaksauce.

Why do you sound like a moody teenage girl saying that? Oh, right: because Viktor is a pooner, written by a pooner, who has no idea how men act despite saying she 'knows the shit'. She's clearly never seen men beat the ever loving shit out of each other. You want a fight-or-fuck scene, you do it right.

> he is made part of the revelation Viktor likes this
> to be fair, he knows Viktor does
Redundant.

"But I can?" - Are you confused, or something? Thought Jayce was so self-assured he easily becomes (and is) one of the most arrogant characters in LoL. This makes it seem he's questioning his own sexual prowess.

You also have to laugh at the fact that even when Viktor augments himself, he still has the traditional mastectomy scars instead of, you know, making them practically nonexistent. Just Pooner Things. Might as well commit to the bit and give him a robo-dick.

Eugh. Someone get a beta. You mean to tell me the autocorrect or spellcheck wasn't working?

Fascinating. Every time I read smut where a canonically male character is made a True and Honest Man, they're always got low self esteem of their bodies, as if they know what they actually are. Why does Viktor have intimacy issues when he's pretty much created a perfect version of himself? Oh, right: pooner projection. The male character has to feel insecure all because they do. Nice.

> Long, deep lick up his cock
What, that 1-2 inch thing? Gimme a break.

Fellas, is it gay to have cunnilingus provided that vagina owner says they're male, and that the author is so insecure about female bodies that she has to write 'dick' instead of clit?

Fuck, I hate this dialogue. It's not even remotely sexy; it sounds like they're confused at what they're doing. This bitch can't even get aggressive Viktor down right; if you are going to make him a needy 'bottom', at least have him punch Jayce a few times. This is ridiculous.

Again. With this. Sentence structure. WHY IS IT EVERYWHERE?!

Fuck, I think this sappiness is going to make me sick, if the snark doesn't.

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Here is the T4T fic, where both of them are trans. Archive.

Spoiler

> Is he a man still?
No, because you're both female in this, lmao.

> What the fuck, this isn't meant to be happening
Buddy, you started it off with not-so-subtle flirting. You can't take it back now; you asked for it.
> He never was Jayce's type
Why did you make a sexually charged comment about sucking his non-existent dick, then?
> Freaky kind of cyborg
Excuse me, he's a sexy kind of cyborg. Get it right.

> Asks if Viktor asks about him on his knees a lot
> Acted confused a paragraph earlier on how this situation turned sexual
> Just Pooner things

You aren't in a romantic relationship; this should be viewed as your basic fight-or-fuck thing. Since Pooner Jayce has no idea how to read sexual cues - DESPITE that dialogue - he's left to wonder what relationship there is to save even when there wasn't one to begin with.

This would be hot if the author knew how to write in complete sentences and use commas after a character completes a line of dialogue. (And TBH, if this was male Viktor, him sitting spread-legged in a chair is pretty damn hot, but that's my bias talking.)

"That's a good doggy" *insert Caesar Milan hissing*

What a way to reduce a sexually charged scene to...that. How hard is it to make Machine Herald Viktor hot?

> With his cock
> Groan against his dick
> Please fuck my mouth
With what? A literal roid clit? C'mon, the man is augmented. You can be creative with the robo-dick. You know you want to (spoiler: the author does not want to).
> He feels safe
What is it with pooners and wanting to feel safe? You should be PRIVILEGED for that position. Weak.

> He thinks about Viktor leaving his parts untouched
Yeah, I wonder why that is. We need that reminder that Viktor in this is actually female, but you also have to see him as male, because the clit is a dick and the author is trans and knows her shit, goddammit. It's just too hard to keep male characters male; we need that trans representation because female bodies suck, am I right?

> His brain felt like scrambled eggs
Ah, not as bad as 'his face was like a s'more' but it's close.

Lol, Viktor did the 'God I wish that were me' meme.

> Fucks himself silly
> It's just his fingers
> Viktor promises to bring toys next time, phallic ones
> It's literally just a repackaged lesbian relationship
> Kek

Guess that post-nut clarity just hit. Indeed, why so moody now, Jayce? You just masturbated thanks to the voice of the Machine Herald, and now you're acting as if it's weird DESPITE you starting it all with your 'do you like me on my knees' comment.

Some parts of this could've worked well with your basic M/M ship, but as always, add pooners in there and it gets ridiculous. What a waste of that delicious Czech voice.

Here were some comments to these fics. The first couple apply to the former, the other to the latter.

Spoiler

Fellas, is it totally gay when someone maws on a pussy that magically isn't dried out by T?

"You're gay"
"I'll make the gays happy"

I assure you you won't, my dear, because anyone with a brain can see this is heterosexual sex with a twist. You aren't a gay man; you're an autistic female pretending to be one, and you are too autistic to even capture what men act like and want. You've read the works; see how indecisive these True and Honest Men are despite initiating said sex? Gay men know what they want. If you want drama, see the circuit queens. You want female-coded 'gay sex', you read this.

Cute, except one of this isn't a man and doesn't even try to act like it. I have always hated neutered Viktor and fucking Christ, is it bad in pooner fics. He has no agency and his hand literally shakes at sex banter. Even Buck Angel knows how to take the heat.

Remember that fat bitch who animated herself chopping off her tits where they became sentient Michelin men? She showed up.

You need a fucking feast of Ozempic, fatty.

 

[Petrusha the White]

There still existed a person, in 2022, who would use the username "2Cute2BeCis"??????

 

[Weirder Feet]

anyone with a brain can see this is heterosexual sex with a twist.

And it's not even a sexy twist! It's an awkward, disingenuous one that saps the (sane) reader's enjoyment.

 

[Tread Miller]

But RWBY is another that gets a lot of "Never saw the show, just read a lot of fics" in the authors notes or tags.

I knew a dude who only knew of RWBY vua fanficition and didn't watch the show until like 2 years after starting to read RWBY fanfiction

RWBY fanfiction can get quite ridiculous. First horror I remember reading was a fic where

Spoiler

Jaune as a little kid gets raped by pedo-Raven Branwen, then she comes back when Jaune is in Beacon to rape him again (Link)

which the author admits is actually plagiarized from another fanfic (Link)
There is a fic, The Road Trip, that was so bad even the author regrets writing it; I haven't read it and I don't want to, so I hope the Reddit reply is sufficient (Link to reddit post):

Here are two fics from CyanideSins (who seems to anything if the comissioner asks) that I found so absurd that they were kind of funny:

Spoiler: Emerald Sustrai and the Ten Robbers

Link/Archive
Because this is some AU, there is raceplay in it. One particularly amusing screenshot:

Spoiler: Pride Month: Corrective Coaxing

Link/Archive
Jaune is a security officer that converts a lesbian Coco into a straight through sex, then marries her. Of course, since it was during Pride Month, there is a lovely ending note by the commisioner:

Spoiler: Offtopic thoughts

What's the point of putting characters from an established series if they are going to be written wildly out of character? Might as well use OCs instead.
I know it's part of the raceplay, but I can't take it seriously when I see "nigger" or other slurs written during a sex scene; when I saw it skimming through the Emerald fic, I couldn't believe my eyes and started laughing

On a more lighthearted and non-RWBY note, here is Nonbendo, with my personal favorite: Jesus saves the white House from canandidalandians (Archive); amazing from the start, stating that Jesus Christ was born from Martha Washington via virgin ass birth

Spoiler: Screenshot of text

Seems pretty obvious it's parodying those "so bad it's good" + not really a "horror" but it's funny so I wanted to share it

Not sure how to archive the fanfiction.net links and the reddit post, archive.md failed on me and ghostarchive didn't work for me either; if someone could archive them for me I would appreciate it.

 

[MoonMare]

Ponies in pampers...
I couldn't find anything more retarded on the fimfic
So enjoy what I found.

 

[Three Gorillion Dollars]

Archive Of Our Own just updated its terms of service.

Clarification to the Archive Warning for underage sexual content​

The "Underage" warning has always meant, and been intended to mean, that the work may contain descriptions or depictions of underage sexual activities. However, PAC and Support have found that many users find the label "Underage" confusingly ambiguous. Some users interpret it as having a much broader meaning, and believe that it pertains to underage drinking, underage dating activities such as kissing, or other content featuring characters who are not adults. Other users interpret it as indicating that the work is suitable for underage persons to access. To make the meaning of this warning clearer, we will be renaming the "Underage" warning to "Underage Sex". The meaning of the warning will not change. The label adjustment will apply to all current and future uses of this warning, meaning that all works currently tagged with the "Underage" Archive Warning will be automatically recategorized to be tagged "Underage Sex". The current "Underage Sex" Additional tag will gain a suffix to become "Underage Sex - Freeform".

If your work is currently tagged "Underage", there's no action you need to take – the change will be automatic. If you do not want your work to carry the label "Underage Sex", then you can replace the "Underage" label with the "Creator Chose Not to Use Archive Warnings" label. If you have a work labeled "Underage" that does not feature any descriptions or depictions of underage sexual activities, you may remove the "Underage" or "Underage Sex" label without replacing it with the "Creator Chose Not to Use Archive Warnings" label. If you don't remove it, don't worry – your work is not in violation of the TOS for carrying an extra warning.

I feel like if you ever have to write something like this, you really need to reconsider everything that led you to this point.

 

[Chandelier]

Forgive me if you've seen this before.

Very nice. We're going straight into a fic with 'gay panic' involving a trans man - because that's what gay panic is. Not to mention gay relationships are normalized in Runeterra, so there would be no need for a 'gay panic' at all. Anyways. Link to fic. Archive. It has not been updated since 2022, so I will cover all the chapters until the day they ceased being updated.

Spoiler: Chapter 1

Rather redundant, don't you think, making this statement when you DID have physical proof - the Shuriman crystals - you just needed the proper tech to harness the energy.

I don't know why Jayce is hesitating either. I get the author wants to go for the himbo Jayce thing, but come on. The man is so confident as to almost be annoying.

> Would Viktor remember that he had invited him in?
...Yes? He's not Joe Biden. He's not going to forget what he told you twenty minutes later. Of course he's going to recognize you; he couldn't stop staring during the Council trial.

Jayce didn't really collaborate with others. His journal shows that he was pretty much working on his own, gathering resources and even going on treasure hunts for Shuriman crystals. If he was collaborating with others, he probably would've had a harder time with the Council as any potential partner would've snitched. Viktor is the only one he really collaborated with.


Reading this, you wouldn't know Viktor was trans. The author stated it wouldn't be a big deal, but it's hard to forget once you notice the subtle clues.

> He had a very particular way of moving
Such as? That's vague as hell.

So, we get the impression that Jayce is clamming up around Viktor because he doesn't know what to say and those golden eyes are already breaking him down. It wouldn't be so bad if Jayce wasn't a character who doesn't really do this, even with Mel. It'd take a bit more time for him to act like this.

Because you were working on your experiments all day. There really is no room for idle chit-chat. You just answered your own question.

Imagine that: a pooner writing this went by a lesbian handle on Twitter. She has since deleted her Twitter, btw. I wonder why.

Spoiler: Chapter 2

I get the impression that Jayce is an autist here. He has difficult expressing himself, goes mute when he gets embarrassed about something, and magically does not tackle people when they steal his Nintendo Switch. I get it: the author is trying to paint him as being so overwhelmed by Viktor he can't contain himself...but this is the second chapter. Give it time for the pining and banter to set in.

Viktor doesn't really care about that, either, because they ALL look down on him because A) He's a Zaunite and B) he's a cripple. He's the only one there who never had a patron or a house to his name. He only got to that position because of raw skill.

I don't know, Jayce, that himbo intellect is setting in. I do like Viktor's dialogue though, it's very in-character for him. I do not care much for Jayce and even the friendship aspect seems a little hamfisted. It was clear from the show they bonded very quickly; you'd think Viktor would pick up on this and tease Jayce immensely.

Eh, these are just mixed messages rather than embarrassing situations. It's pretty obvious Viktor knows what Jayce is getting at. Plus they've only known each other for barely even a month at this point, so the romance has to start somewhere. It's really fucking fast here.


Slow down there, buddy. Keep that boner in line.

In all honesty, though, this is one of the better trans!Viktor fics there is, because he does act more like his canon self here. You can pretend he is not a pooner easily enough; it's Jayce that comes off as wishy-washy sometimes. He is a goofball, but I would've expected a bit more confidence from him. It might be a nitpick, but him asking himself if Viktor likes him or not or why he gets embarrassed so often is starting to get a little irritating.




Ah, it's the 'they were roommates/they only had one bed' trope. The unfortunate thing is...you're in a tiny kitchen, and a wheeled cot isn't very sexy. There wouldn't be room for the both of them at all. It's literally smaller than a jail cell. And Jayce is a big boy, so there really wouldn't be any room unless he decided to sleep in the cupboards.

Yeah, and that was a stupid suggestion, because if the kitchen is tiny AND unused, that shit is gonna be dirty as hell. I would not want to sleep in a space where food is prepared, sorry. Why wasn't the cot just placed in a wider section of the lab? You'd have plenty of space and you could've used this line.

Oh, right. Drama.

Yes, offering a place to stay in a tiny, unwashed kitchen is romantic as hell. Really. You don't know if there are spider webs or fucking mice running around in there. Better sleep there rather than the open concept lab where there is floor space.

> Something was off about his feelings for Viktor
You literally just started talking, calm the fuck down.

Here were some comments for this chapter.

Spoiler

Of course. Gotta have that 'representation'.

Do not ask me what the fuck this pfp is supposed to be. It makes ME want to eat a shoe.

Spoiler: Chapter 3

Reminder that these two aren't even proper friends yet, and this can't be considered an FWB. There's plenty of awkwardness and back-and-forth interaction...but the 'WOW, I'M IN LOVE' declaration comes really fucking quick. You'll see that later.

The question wasn't meant to be sexual, though it was a stupid one because A) we don't know the state of that kitchen (Viktor later says the lab is cold but why would an unused kitchen be warm?) and B) if Jayce shared that cot with him he'd break it the same way Will Ferrell broke the bunk bed in Step Brothers (now THAT is funny imagery).

Of course, Viktor is already thinking how beefy and hot Jayce is - very female coded! A real gay man would've already made his move and you know Viktor would've already done that - if he was in the mood, that is.

Buddy, we get it: he gets your T-pussy wet. Moving on.

Eh? Finding it hard to get along? The textual evidence says otherwise - you get along well. Nothing has happened to even initiate such distrust. If you make a statement, you have to back it up - simple as.

Ah yes, the 'Am I or am I not in love with someone I am not even friends with and haven't even had a proper interaction with' question. There isn't even enough beef here for pining - and you absolutely can achieve that in 13k words. This is a flip-flop story where the characters themselves don't know if they want to be friends or not. Make a decision!

You wouldn't have the space, anyways. That's barely a twin sized mattress. That's like sharing a hospital bed.

"Oh my my friend/not friend thinks this was a proposition! What do I do?!'

Giving your friend/not friend a sexy look after they nearly choked to death? Hot. Should've been a hotdog he choked on for added phallic imagery.

> That sandwich isn't blocking your windpipe
Oh I know what he wants to block YOUR windpipe with.

So, Jayce already concludes that he has the hots for Viktor...in a whirlwind romance that isn't even a romance. Their interactions are rather stiff and I do not get the saucy chemistry the author wants them to have. Then, Jayce wonders if Viktor even likes men...despite not knowing he's actually a woman. Something to note.

Viktor goes from his colleague, to his friend, to his not-friend, to a potential romantic partner so quick it makes me think this is a Taylor Swift romance. What feelings do you have aside from awkward autistic interactions? Be real with me here. Is there anything romantic connecting them together aside from a miscommunication over a dirty-ass cot? No.

He 'knows the answer' but also doesn't know them, because Viktor is quite vague about his intentions. They haven't even had a proper interaction OUTSIDE of the cot incident to even know whether Viktor even likes to have a hand on his shoulder. Like bro, gimme some more sugar before dumping it all on me.

> Somehow, something had happened between each of those three points
You misinterpreted the cot as an invitation for sex, with someone you aren't even sure is your friend or not. Of course you're going to decide you like Viktor because it's the easiest option available.

> He has no trouble confronting his feelings
So why did he misinterpret the cot situation and couldn't understand why he was acting fidgety around Viktor? Pick a struggle.

Yes, that's right: he's RUNNING WITH AN ACID BEAKER IN HIS HANDS. Better not slip and pour that shit on your pretty face, homie. AND HE'S NOT WEARING GLOVES OR PROTECTIVE EQUIPMENT, REALLY NICE.

> You're not in charge
You were LITERALLY RUNNING WITH A BEAKER FULL OF ACID AND NEARLY CAUSED AN EXPLOSION. Damn right Viktor has seniority over you. Fucking idiot.

> Says he's comfortable with his feelings for Viktor
> Is still having these internal monologues on whether Viktor will accept his bait to have a dirty cot sleepover
> Wonders if they'll go back to being strangers despite admitting he's totally in love with Viktor
> It's the third chapter

Was he? I mean asking to sleep in a dirty, unused, cold as fuck kitchen is a helluva offer. But hey, trans sleepovers! Trans sleepovers! Real Men TM get to have deep conversations on dirty hospital cots in a kitchen! Fuck you, it's romantic!

Spoiler: Chapter 4

You're in a dirty (or stale at the very least) kitchen, that's so small you had both the beds together, when you could've put them in the lab for the sole purpose of ~drama~

And yes, Viktor is right: Jayce is acting like a schoolgirl having her first sleepover. It's cringeworthy as fuck.

You are two grown men - well aside from Viktor, who's actually a woman - why the FUCK are you thinking like this? It's retarded. Men shouldn't be thinking about uwu sleepovers and pillow fights; not even grown women do. What the fuck is this.

Yes, he hatched this plan after running around with a beaker of acid so he could fuck Viktor - someone he isn't even sure he's friends with. Absolutely pathetic.

Gross. Can't even share a lunch with the guy without choking and now you're drooling in his hair? Better shampoo those locks real good, bitch.


Nah, you're just retarded. Jayce is having all these doubts - after he says he admits he totally has feelings for Viktor - on whether Viktor reciprocates his feelings or not...even when they're not even properly friends. This all started over a dirty cot, btw.

You ARE a disaster. I'd read actual gay disasters that have turned out better than this - mainly because the author established a relationship, platonic or not.

Nah, I think he knows because Jayce is about to McVeigh their own lab due to his negligence. Just wait until you read how long they've known each other, btw.

So all-encompassing you...aren't even good enough for an FWB. Literally, there's no chemistry there. There was an attempt made, and it was thrown out by Jayce's - and by extension, the author's - retardation.

That's right, fam: they've only known each other FOR A FEW WEEKS. With this drama and bitching you'd think it was months. All that non-existent pining and Jayce being confused whether he likes Viktor or not is driving me up the wall. He's more annoying than trans! Viktor, believe it or not.

You can't fathom? Really? It's not like you've acted like an autistic retard for the past few weeks, to the point you asked Viktor whether he wanted to fuck on a single, rusty, dusty ass cot in his tiny kitchen. You could've fucked in the storage closet and I would've digested it easier.

> I like looking at you, listening to you, spending time with you
Nigga it's only been a FEW WEEKS, you aren't even FRIENDS MY GUY

How many clever jokes has Viktor made? What passionate scenes have they shared? Aside from some looks from Viktor's side, none. There's nothing aside from him being focused on his work and the cot incident. There was more drama and tension from Viktor working on the crystal, ffs.

> Been at the forefront of his mind forever
> Only been a few weeks
Motherfucker, I -

Ah, yes. You gotta highlight how uwu small Viktor is - how else would we know he's trans? He's still healthy at this point, and need I remind you he's only six inches shorter than Jayce. Not a foot.

It is obvious this was meant to lead into the inevitable smut chapter, but the author later wrote she had no intention of finishing it. So we are left with this cliffhanger. If anything, that smut would probably have more interaction than what passed for 'passion' in the previous chapters. Reminder this all started because of placing a filthy cot in a tiny kitchen because the lab was 'too cold'. I guess blankets are as foreign as 'mutual pining'. Out of all the trans!Viktor fics, this one manages to stand out for being so flat. Viktor's dialogue carried it, but that's it. There's literally no romance to be found here. Jayce had more sexual relations with his sandwich, ffs.

There still existed a person, in 2022, who would use the username "2Cute2BeCis"??????

She's wild, that one. I shit you not, her animated avatar on Twitter has 'manly' things like butterfly tattoos and swollen cankles that not even diabetes socks can't hide. She based that model on her IRL self, and she is COATED in testosterone acne scars. It's disgusting. No wonder she latches onto this pairing: it features hot guys, while she looks like a goddamn smallpox victim. And yes, she wants top surgery.

 

[Petrusha the White]

However, PAC and Support have found that many users find the label "Underage" confusingly ambiguous. Some users interpret it as having a much broader meaning, and believe that it pertains to underage drinking, underage dating activities such as kissing, or other content featuring characters who are not adults. Other users interpret it as indicating that the work is suitable for underage persons to access.

This is the wildest part of the TOS update to me. What the fuck did they think the "general audiences" rating was for?

Not to mention gay relationships are normalized in Runeterra, so there would be no need for a 'gay panic' at all.

People are very, very weird about the depiction of homophobia in fanfic. You never know what you're going to get. I suppose it's at least understandable that people would dislike seeing a depiction of homophobia if it hits too close to home, but actually complaining about seeing it in a setting where you really should expect it (e.g. a slashfic set in the nineteenth century - like no shit people aren't gonna be all like "aw love is love" in the nineteenth century) is retarded. Somhow even worse are the people who feel the need to insert homophobia where it shouldn't exist. There are lots of settings where either same-sex relationships are explicitly considered normal or can be assumed to be considered normal (e.g. it takes place in the future, or even takes place in the modern day unless it's specifically set in like, the Middle East). I once saw someone complain on a Metal Gear Solid fic about a lack of homophobia in the early 2000s, even citing "as a queer person who lived during that time...", to which the author responded with much confusion because that's a game series that featured a largely unremarked-upon gay couple in 1960s Russia. (The author also said that they're gay in real life and "fuck off if you think I need to relive being bullied for it for the sake of some fanfiction". Which is another good point re: expecting authors to include homophobia because reasons.)

I understand if some individuals want to use fanfiction to work through their experiences facing homophobia, since a lot of fanfiction is basically just glorified self-therapy, but most of the time it comes across as an easy method of drama at best. At worst it just feels like a lot of these people are coming from very accepting families/areas but still want to FEEL oppressed so they latch onto this fictionalized homophobia to justify their self-identification as victims, which makes them IMPORTANT. They need fag-bashing in their slashfic because they've never experienced fag-bashing in real life but they think of themselves as being no different from those who have, so this is validating for them.
Bonus: These people are usually gay pooners, i.e. straight women, and I swear like 90% of them still wear heavy makeup and extremely feminine clothes, have boyfriends, and have never/will never be assumed by an observer to be male. No, Aiden, nobody has ever been homophobic towards you. The only one who has ever called you a faggot is yourself. (stolen valor imo)

 

[Petrusha the White]

LMAOOOOOOOOOO

 

[gmax alcremie]

Pooners are so obsessed with being/feeling safe. Troubling psychological implications

Archive Of Our Own just updated its terms of service.

I was reading through the ToS update https://archiveofourown.org/works/58283857/chapters/150137587#workskin
and started laughing at this paragraph. Then came to this thread and while catching up, caught the quote about pooners needing to feel safe.

But like...really? Can you imagine if people deleted their accounts here because they got a reminder about using thumbnails?

 

[Troon Whisperer]

But like...really? Can you imagine if people deleted their accounts here because they got a reminder about using thumbnails?

According to random posts I saw on r/FanFiction people are nuking their accounts on AO3 because they are frightened Trump is going to send his goons to AO3 and then throw anyone who's used a LGBT tag in the fag death camp. Or the regular concentration camp if they've posted a smut fic.

So yeah I can imagine someone getting an email from AO3 and just panic deleting their account before actually reading it, then crying about it on Tumblr or whatever.

 

[soft breathing]

It's not the worst I've seen, but this genuinely made me laugh out loud. What the fuck, man.

This fandom/pairing is also riddled with tranny bullshit, but I really don't have the mental capacity to dig through it right now.

 

[Cactus Concerto]

But like...really? Can you imagine if people deleted their accounts here because they got a reminder about using thumbnails?

Imagine deleting an archive of something that is allegedly important to you, particularly if you have an account and are/used to be an active writer, and nuking the whole thing because you're scared Trump is going to delete your fanfiction during his second term as president when things like the economy and illegal immigration have to be dealt with.

Encouraging children and the internet as a whole to publicly engage with politics on a regular basis was such a fucking mistake.

Then again, their fics were likely shit so maybe this is a net positive for the platform.

It's not the worst I've seen, but this genuinely made me laugh out loud. What the fuck, man.

That description startled a laugh out of me. I'm curious. Hopefully I've got a couple of lives left in me.

 

[Petrusha the White]

Then again, their fics were likely shit so maybe this is a net positive for the platform.

This is how I feel about any fic (of which we're about to see a ton of again) that open's with an A/N saying "If you don't support xyz then you're not allowed to read my fics." It's kind of like an animal that has bright colors to warn you not to eat it.

 

[Billy Idol]

Extraordinarily off topic but did you know that there is a thriving Beatles RPF fandom on both Tumblr and AO3? Yes, people are serious about this and there's an awful lot of weird porno fics about the Fab Four.

Here's a sampler platter for those interested:

Weird ageplay fics with John and Paul.

Using the suicide of a real gay man so you can pretend his friend was gay too. Very classy.

A very long fic about Paul suffering. I say he deserves it for writing all those granny tunes.

This may seem rather strange but I will remind you all that Beatlemania was a thing that happened. Girls being weird about the Beatles isn't a new thing. I wouldn't be shocked if someone's grandmother was scribbling similar shite in her notebook when she should have been paying attention in class. But these fics are still fucking weird to me.

A fun game you can play on AO3 is to look up your favorite band and see if they have any RPF written about them. The more fics in the tag, the most points you get! Want to guess how many fics there are of the Gallagher brothers from Oasis fucking each other? Hint: Too many.

 

[Chandelier]

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It's not the worst I've seen, but this genuinely made me laugh out loud. What the fuck, man.

This fandom/pairing is also riddled with tranny bullshit, but I really don't have the mental capacity to dig through it right now.

Okay that did make me laugh. I'm half tempted to read it after the Arcane influx comes in.

Now get a load of these from the Star Wars fandom.

"LOL I DUNNO" the smut fic.

People really do think "intersex" means you have both parts. I see this in the HOTD fandom and it astounds me how none of them even know what the fuck it is. They will, however, block you if you do give them the Witchel 2018 article on DSDs.

fun game you can play on AO3 is to look up your favorite band and see if they have any RPF written about them. The more fics in the tag, the most points you get! Want to guess how many fics there are of the Gallagher brothers from Oasis fucking each other? Hint: Too many.

Oh man, wait until you get into the Kpop fandom. 225k for Bangtan Boys, and majority of the fics are explicit. Stray Kids and other bands have enormous fanbases. Men's hockey and Formula 1 has a large fandom, too.

In regards to the TOS being changed, this made me snicker out loud:

Black users are barely 2% of the username. Niggers don't read fanfic. According to their own data it's a white female autistic venture.

Despite the influx of Chinese fics, the userbase is not majority Chinese. I fail to see how incorrect tags is racism but whatever. It's hilarious seeing them do this when you hardly see any fandoms with black or brown characters. It's all whites and East Asians. Funny, that.

 

[Petrusha the White]

They do kinda have a point about why a "Racism"/"Hate Speech" archive warning would be retarded, even if their reasoning is backwards. At least with the current archive warnings it's understood by all except the dumbest knuckle-draggers that the tags are just neutral statements of content that exists within a fanwork; having the tag doesn't imply anything about how whatever it's warning for is actually presented in the work. A "Racism" tag though would indeed be taken, even by pretty reasonable people, as an implication that the fic/the author is for real racist. (Note: In all my years I've never seen an actual racist fic, except for the ones written by clueless progressives who want to make a big deal about a "character of color" being "of color" and coming across as culturally ignorant at best and condescending at worst.)

Ascribing a campaign to correct incorrect language tags - assuming that an organized campaign even exists - to some kind of desire to drive away Chinese users because le racism is also retarded. Fun fact for people in this thread who have never actually posted on AO3 before: There are only six required fields for posting a fic: Rating (of which you can choose "Not rated"), archive warnings (of which you can chose "Chose not to use archive warnings"), fandom, title (can be one character if you really want), language, and the fic itself (you need to put something in the content field). Of every other possible field (tags, pairings, summary, author's notes, etc.) the only thing that you can't just leave completely blank is whether or not to allow comments, which has a default setting anyway.
Correctly tagging the language on a fic is one of only SEVEN steps you need to take to post on AO3! (The six aforementioned options + actually hitting post.) I don't think the Chinese users are necessarily dumb for not correctly selecting the work language if there is/was no Chinese-language interface, but if your tag is suddenly being hit with a lot of fics in a language you don't speak, and you can't filter them out because they're all tagged as being in English, then organizing a fandom-wide effort to inform those authors that they need to correct the tag or even just reporting the fics is a sensible thing to do. If a tag got a sudden influx of, say, Russian-language fics (which btw also happens sometimes!), then the same thing might happen. Is it racist then?
AO3 "solved" this issue by no longer having a default language feature. Frankly, that's a good way to solve it - Chinese- and Russian-speaking fic authors are unlikely to accidentally select English if they have to actively pick it out - but it is stupid that they didn't set up the language list so that English (the most common language on the site by a HUGE margin) is at the top. Instead you have to scroll for it.

Why do I need to scroll past fucking ancient Egyptian hieroglyphs in order to select the most common language on the site? Ffs, why is American Sign Language something you can post in, anyway? AO3 doesn't have a way to embed videos, which is really the only way you could have a fanwork in ASL (I'm imagining some kind of filmed "podfic" similar to the zoom teleplays that were popular in some fandoms during 2020, except that the involved actors are using sign language instead of speaking.)

I respect AO3 for the fact that they won't cave to the woke zeitgeist and ban certain topics because they make people uncomfy, but there's still really no escaping the virtue signalling of terminally online millenials.