Euphoric atheists

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Cosmos said:
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Plato came up with a reason for this over 2 thousand years ago. Its not an accomplishment to try to be a "good person" secularly and religious people have been doing it for centuries.
 
Following up my previous point... this kind of fundamentalism is rooted in ego. People are so convinced of their own righteousness that it's genuinely offensive to them to think that someone disagrees with their worldview. Both religious fundamentalists and euphoric atheists deal with this challenge the same way: they insist that anyone who disagrees with them must be either immoral or stupid. There is no third option.
 
autisticdragonkin said:
Plato came up with a reason for this over 2 thousand years ago. Its not an accomplishment to try to be a "good person" secularly and religious people have been doing it for centuries.
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Yeah, pretty much anyone tries to be a good person regardless of beliefs or lack of beliefs. It is something that been around since Plato if no longer than Plato.

ChurchOfGodBear said:
Following up my previous point... this kind of fundamentalism is rooted in ego. People are so convinced of their own righteousness that it's genuinely offensive to them to think that someone disagrees with their worldview. Both religious fundamentalists and euphoric atheists deal with this challenge the same way: they insist that anyone who disagrees with them must be either immoral or stupid. There is no third option.
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And that lack of the middle ground is what makes the euphorics just like fundamentalist. As much as how euphorics haven't gone as low as fundies in some cases, they are still a group that deserves to be laughed at considering how they like to think they are automatically more intelligent over something no one save for them and fundies would care about.
 
c-no said:
Yeah, pretty much anyone tries to be a good person regardless of beliefs or lack of beliefs. It is something that been around since Plato if no longer than Plato.
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The Golden Rule goes back to the Code of Hammurabi in ancient Babylon. Approximately 1780BC. Although not technically spelling out "be a good person" It was about 1200 years before Plato.
 
Here's my two cents on the matter. Honestly, all that matter is if you're a good person. Doesn't matter if you religious or non-religious. If one is just a good person, then that's all that should matter when it comes to defining a person. These atheists are twats, yeah. But a lot of religious people can be equally retarded too.
 
Cosmos said:
Sorry, I just got the same vibe of smugness. But you know what's really smug?

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I would go as far as to say it's partially incorrect because only two of the 10 commandments have any basis in modern morality. The rest have to do with not working on Sunday, not swearing with God's name, not believing in any other Gods. And several are based around thought crime (Like thou shalt not covet. Which means you are punished if you envy certain things like your neighbour's wife or his livestock). Given most fundamentalist Christians are also very proud of Capitalism (which is largely based around envy) this is very out of place.

Most religious people can't even name all of the 10 commandments, or know that everyone breaks one every single day without knowing it. (Like if you said "God Damnit" that's on the same level as murder or theft.)
autisticdragonkin said:
Plato came up with a reason for this over 2 thousand years ago. Its not an accomplishment to try to be a "good person" secularly and religious people have been doing it for centuries.
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Much of this was established by religions a lot older than Greek.

A big problem with this analysis is that the Bible has very strict guidelines toward what constitutes being a "good person". Like how it actually gives you instances when abortion and slavery are allowed. And in the case of Slavery different laws to different groups of people. (and the New Testament has a "slaves be good to your masters" passage).

It's hard to take religious morality seriously considering it more or less means "Be a good person, or else"
 
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Gazelle_Bro said:
Here's my two cents on the matter. Honestly, all that matter is if you're a good person. Doesn't matter if you religious or non-religious. If one is just a good person, then that's all that should matter when it comes to defining a person. These atheists are twats, yeah. But a lot of religious people can be equally retarded too.
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Oh, I didn't mean to imply anything different from that. I definitely agree 100%.

I just think it's funny how oblivious euphoric atheists are to how similar to funDIEs (lol geddit) they are. Saying that you're a better person because you do good things while not believing in God is just as arrogant and dumb as a fundamentalist claiming that atheists are automatically amoral cretins.
 
Euphoric atheists are obsessed with saying that they're "good people," oblivious to the fact that people can see that they aren't. A good person shouldn't have to speak of their own goodness.
 
Cosmos said:
Oh, I didn't mean to imply anything different from that. I definitely agree 100%.

I just think it's funny how oblivious euphoric atheists are to how similar to funDIEs (lol geddit) they are. Saying that you're a better person because you do good things while not believing in God is just as arrogant and dumb as a fundamentalist claiming that atheists are automatically amoral cretins.
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Oh yeah I completely agree with you on that. For people who are so "enlightened" they don't realize what's right in front of them, despite yabbering on and on about it.
 
“The more I learn, the more I realize how much I don't know.”

― Albert Einstein

You'd think these fedora tippers would learn a thing or two about humility
 
Because I can't, no one could possibly deduce with certainty if god exists from the same information I have.

Oh, the scream of humility of militant agnostics.
 
Well, Pope Francis arrived in the US earlier this afternoon. How do you think the euphoric atheists will react to his visit here?
 
DNJACK said:
Because I can't, no one could possibly deduce with certainty if god exists from the same information I have.

Oh, the scream of humility of militant agnostics.
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"militant agnostics"

You mean like this?

 
DNJACK said:
It can be proven, at many different levels. It's just that some people do not accept the proof.
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It can only be proven by accepting as axiomatic the assumptions that lead to the conclusion you want.

As a matter of epistemology, the existence or nonexistence of God is unknowable.

And that opinion is as valid as any other on the subject, that is, it is entitled to no respect from anyone.
 
We're here to laugh at fedora tippers.
Please don't derail the thread into debating about religion.
 
Okay, this is great. I found it on this subreddit, which is a goldmine in and of itself:

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Yeah, the lady who graduated high school, took 4 years of premed, took 4 years of medical school, passed all her exams, completed her residency, obtained her license, and has been actually practicing medicine for who knows how long is an idiot because she's wearing a headscarf. Okay.

If someone is smart and dedicated enough to become a doctor, I don't care about their personal beliefs. They've already passed the test.
 
Cosmos said:
If someone is smart and dedicated enough to become a doctor, I don't care about their personal beliefs. They've already passed the test.
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Literally the only personal belief that should disqualify anyone from wanting to see a particular doctor is if they're like anti-vaxx or some shit. (Which happens, sadly.) (in other words, I agree with you.)

edit: spelling is hard
 
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