Elliot Page / Ellen Page - Former actress, starred in Juno. Turned into a pooner and divorced her wife because being a lesbian was not boosting her career anymore. Receives a daily dose of asspatting from Hollywood. Likes to show off her "male" body using fake abdominals.

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The constant craving for attention is one of the most common downfalls of people.

Ellen could have taken the same route as many child actors who eventually realized that, while they loved the craft, they didn’t want the spotlight. They shifted to writing, producing, or directing, roles that kept them in Hollywood without stripping away their privacy, and often proved just as fulfilling. But for some, being just another name in the end credits isn’t enough.

And that fashion film... I understand where they are coming from but it didn't impress me. Stellar cast, though, if you don't count Ellen. It was quite distracting every time she was on the screen.
 
People like Ellen or Norah are usually women who never found this feeling of belonging, ever since they were young. Either because they were not gender conforming, attracted to women or autistic, and female socialization is extremely unforgiving to anyone who doesn't fit the mold.
I agree this is her fundamental problem, never feeling like she was acceptable as she was. She may or may not have experienced some sexual trauma on top of it, but I always got the impression that she was a very self-loathing lesbian who was scared to come out. She waited until gay marriage was legalized and had mainstream support to confirm the rumors, but even then she seemed terrified. And this was in front of a completely safe, supportive audience.

Ellen is just so profoundly mentally fragile. She’s consumed to an unhealthy degree with what people think of her and is crushed under the weight of negative comments, she’s not resilient enough to handle being in the public eye. She never had a strong foundation to build an identity on and it doesn’t surprise me that she was easily manipulated into thinking trans ideology would fix that gnawing sense of emptiness.
 
As in the case of Audrey Hale and all her cringe, it just never ceases to be funny that Ellen has zero manly qualities. She would make for a great Ephialtes in a 300 remake.
 
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She is a filthy, degenerate whore with a beard.

Did trannies change the definition of what the term family man means too?
I just try not to think of Buck Angel at all. She has this thing of saying one thing I agree with then saying another thing I dislike. Life is too short to give a fuck about what Buck Angel says. I don't care.
 
If being trans wasn't trendy (narcisism) and made her untouchable (control), she would latch on to something else (NXVIM, MLM, PETA, some weird culty-church in LA...).
she was born into a buddhist cult, shambhala.

a very self-loathing lesbian who was scared to come out. She waited until gay marriage was legalized and had mainstream support to confirm the rumors, but even then she seemed terrified. And this was in front of a completely safe, supportive audience.
From the horny stuff about her gay uncle in a bathing suit in her book, and some other stuff about boys as a kid it made me think she's suppressing bisexuality because she's afraid of men. The book did talk about her first online friend / internet stalker when she was a young teenager, which implies there were more after that. Her marriage to a woman really seemed to have crashed and burned, her wife released a song about Ellen and her transness being an escape from something soon after the divorce announcement. The chorus is the ex-wife singing 'there's more to the story' over and over. It's the main thing I wish I knew about Ellen, and then why she left the vegan outdoor community when it was so good for her.
 
From the horny stuff about her gay uncle in a bathing suit in her book, and some other stuff about boys as a kid it made me think she's suppressing bisexuality because she's afraid of men.
I'm not even that convinced that she's "actually" even bisexual. The way she wrote about her crushes on various women vs the way that she wrote about her crushes on guys, even though she clearly wants to downplay the boyfriends she seems more passionate about them than her girlfriends who she spent years with.
 
I'm not even that convinced that she's "actually" even bisexual. The way she wrote about her crushes on various women vs the way that she wrote about her crushes on guys, even though she clearly wants to downplay the boyfriends she seems more passionate about them than her girlfriends who she spent years with.
I think that's just because it's forbidden fruit and pedestaling. She also talked about pulling over to the side of the road to have sex between some rocks with a woman, whoever the most famous girlfriend was that she wasn't allowed to name, that doesn't sound fake horny. Unless maybe the very famous girlfriend is imaginary.
 
I think that's just because it's forbidden fruit and pedestaling. She also talked about pulling over to the side of the road to have sex between some rocks with a woman, whoever the most famous girlfriend was that she wasn't allowed to name, that doesn't sound fake horny. Unless maybe the very famous girlfriend is imaginary.
The problem is that this is the book woman (it turns out that the gay bashing story was promotion for the book, not a passage) that "I'M GOING TO FUCKING GAY BASH YOU, FAGGOT!" came from, so I don't know if any of it is real. For all we know she's been constantly smashing box since she was a teenager.
 
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From the horny stuff about her gay uncle in a bathing suit in her book, and some other stuff about boys as a kid it made me think she's suppressing bisexuality because she's afraid of men.
Trying to convince yourself you’re attracted to males is a pretty common self-loathing lesbian experience. Gays hoping to fix their orientation through forced heterosexual relationships is a well-known phenomenon. Many such cases, etc.

Sure, for all any of us know she could’ve been a confused bisexual all along. But the excerpts I’ve read of her fixations on boys/men are framed in such a strange, performative way that it suggests she’s trying to retcon her past to prop up the new trans identity. “I was fascinated with boys because I wanted to be one, I just hadn’t realized it yet”, that sort of thing. Almost every troon who transitioned well into adulthood never once actually thought they were the opposite sex their whole lives. They just make up rationalizations about how they always knew after the fact.

I think you’re right to suggest she’s afraid of men though. Thinking that transition will keep you safe from male sexual aggression is also a pretty common experience for pooners, or so I’ve heard.
 
They would never be interested in playing OG Galadriel, but they might Guyladriel.
Gay Lad (Real).
Trying to convince yourself you’re attracted to males is a pretty common self-loathing lesbian experience.
I don’t think I’ve ever met a lesbian who didn’t at least date some men. I’ve even known a couple who overcompensated, just totally slutting it up with guys before coming out.
 
From the horny stuff about her gay uncle in a bathing suit in her book, and some other stuff about boys as a kid it made me think she's suppressing bisexuality because she's afraid of men. The book did talk about her first online friend / internet stalker when she was a young teenager, which implies there were more after that. Her marriage to a woman really seemed to have crashed and burned, her wife released a song about Ellen and her transness being an escape from something soon after the divorce announcement. The chorus is the ex-wife singing 'there's more to the story' over and over. It's the main thing I wish I knew about Ellen, and then why she left the vegan outdoor community when it was so good for her.
I genuinely think she's gaslighted herself into being a lesbian and now into being trans because she has some serious trauma related to men. Could she be bisexual? Sure, it's more commonly accepted that you can find both sexes attractive and "dabble" in bisexuality. Could she actually be a dyke? Sure, self-hating homosexuals exist and there are many stories of gay men faking being straight as a form of fitting in.
I agree that any time she focuses on a relationship in her book it appears she's more genuine with her physical and emotional attraction towards men vs her vaguely hinted at-dyke relationships.
If only we could get an unfiltered look into her brain. Everything she's been "candid" about has been filtered in some way.
The problem is that this is the book woman (it turns out that the gay bashing story was promotion for the book, not a passage) that "I'M GOING TO FUCKING GAY BASH YOU, FAGGOT!" came from, so I don't know if any of it is real. For all we know she's been constantly smashing box since she was a teenager.
I wouldn't be shocked if all of Pageboy is just fake memories and things she's repeated to herself over and over until it became the truth, in her head.
 
I think the incongruities between Ellen's depiction of the sexes in her writings comes down to two factors:

1. She can't write worth a damn; and what she actually does with that book is attempt to rewrite her past in a way that a severely mentally ill person craving an escape from guilt believes will sufficiently justify their suffering at present. Pageboy demonstrates that Elliott Page was willed into existence to author politically expedient Ellen Page fanfiction.

Ellen recognized that she was the author of her own misery - but wouldn't accept responsibility for the lifelong extent to which she spread her own misery around onto others. So she coped by authoring Elliott to absolve herself of her sins. That Conrad Veidt quality of "trans joy" we always see her wearing is the obvious consequence of a dysfunctional woman projecting nothing more than an illusory image of her idealized self onto her life and expecting the facade to somehow function better than she can.

The rubber hits the road immediately; because Elliott can't possibly pick up the slack for Ellen having given up on herself, for the simple reason that "he" isn't real. This is the kind of bullshit you see when a person is wealthy enough to disassociate from personal accountability to an absurd extent. The fundamental, inescapable problem is that Ellen remains the homunculus recklessly torturing that body from behind its eyes. I Have No Dick; and I Must Smile.

2. The simple reason there is more attention to detail paid to the perceived personalities, motives, stylings, and posturings of the men Ellen writes about is because she yearns to take on their identities for the sake of escaping the pain of womanhood. The women she writes about tend to be reduced to and invoked as either sex objects existing for her gratification, or oppressors of exceptional, genderspecial individuals such as herself: i.e. How can Ellen possibly be a woman, if other women are telling her she's a woman? Checkmate, womenses!

However: Despite the extra attention Ellen pays to the men she wishes to be, what she's preoccupied with is entirely superficial; because her priority is to note only what she believes she can plausibly recreate for herself when skinwalking these men. So, while she devotes more time to illustrating the pedestal she places these men on, we ultimately learn no more about them than the woman Ellen writes about. The details are constrained to the superficialities someone of Ellen's warped disposition considers to be crucial details, based entirely upon what she felt her preferred disguise lacked at the time. The woman's a fucking hermit crab preoccupied with finding something to wear which will cause the world to no longer perceive her as a hermit crab, even though she will never stop exhibiting hermit crab behavior, regardless of each new visage she crowns herself with.

And though she goes out of her way to depict herself lusting for women, her passions seem to actually lay in autoandrophilia - She invokes women purely as a pretense to repeatedly reference the effect they have on her "dick" that doesn't exist.

In fact, the entire book is nothing more than the ramblings of a failed woman trying to write her own dick into existence by acting perverted. Convincing us she's gay/straight/whatever is little more than lazy window dressing in this exercise. It's all about pretending she has a dick, has always had a dick, and advertising that she intends to put that dick to work.

On a different note: Does anyone else wonder what bearing her commitment to being a "boy" (as opposed to a man) has on her pubic hair situation? She seems to paradoxically fetishize showing off her hairy armpits and shaved chest. And that's without getting into whatever rat's nest of an ass crack she's been rocking. Are dingleberries gender-affirming?
 
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It's the main thing I wish I knew about Ellen, and then why she left the vegan outdoor community when it was so good for her.
Cause no one wants to be around vegans.
They're drug addicts, control-freaks, and self-righteous as hell. She might have gotten fed up with the culture and toxicity and left, especially since they are never as cherished as other griftable identities
 
New pics.
First some from Comic Con.
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And here for the premiere of Peppermint's new movie about his life. I wonder if Sander was there?
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Close up. I notice she does have slight whiskers at each side of her mouth.
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