Dragon Age: The Veilguard - A woke disaster? Yep!

[Jace on ice]

I knew shit was going downhill when I heard in a pre release leak that the desire demon was the one enemy type that was completely cut from Inquisition.

I know a lot of people subscribe to the "coomers bad" mentality but I genuinely do think toning down sexual content is almost always a red flag.

It means the game is going in a softer direction and mature themes will be toned down or gotten rid of entirely.

Every single time.

 

[BlankSpaceBaby]

Weekes further demonstrates why he is a bad writer. Context isn't important because... it just isn't. No wonder he disregarded all the old lore when he took over because it's totally fine to add in modern day language and cultures into them.

Jesus.

Spoiler: STUPIDITY INSIDE

 

[Mola Ram]

Weekes further demonstrates why he is a bad writer. Context isn't important because... it just isn't. No wonder he disregarded all the old lore when he took over because it's totally fine to add in modern day language and cultures into them.

Jesus.

Spoiler: STUPIDITY INSIDE

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No, familiarity with Jane Austen (or whoever) may not be a sign of good character, but taking the time to learn classical literature should be a fuckton more useful than juggling if you're going to be a writer, you dickmouthed asshole.

Weekes strikes me as the sort of writer who genuinely believes creative writing classes are more useful to learning the craft than diving into literature; like, the sort of shit writer who believes that so intensely that he actually looks down on writers who take the time to study other literary fields, be they classic or modern.

All kinds of things about how the writing in this franchise tanked are coming into focus. Good lord.

 

[BlankSpaceBaby]

In the tier of easy to very complex, Austen is actually on the easy scale as she didn't pepper her prose with local or archaic dialects and slangs like Emily Bronte or Robert Louis Stevenson. No complex historical context needed unlike War and Peace, no long running sentences as well.

The fact that he had to take a university course to "get" her works... LOL.

 

[El Chacal De La Trompeta]

Weekes further demonstrates why he is a bad writer

classics are classics for a reason. el quijote still is legit and you dont really need to know too much about middle ages spain to enjoy it. only a faggot dumb down its story for his readers or thinks what he is writing exist on a vacuum

 

[Mola Ram]

classics are classics for a reason. el quijote still is legit and you dont really need to know too much about middle ages spain to enjoy it. only a faggot dumb down its story for his readers or thinks what he is writing exist on a vacuum

Frankly it sounds like Weekes just resents writers who are smarter than he is.

 

[God of Nothing]

I knew shit was going downhill when I heard in a pre release leak that the desire demon was the one enemy type that was completely cut from Inquisition.

I know a lot of people subscribe to the "coomers bad" mentality but I genuinely do think toning down sexual content is almost always a red flag.

It means the game is going in a softer direction and mature themes will be toned down or gotten rid of entirely.

Every single time.

there is something legitimately wrong with people when they can accept blood and guts while screaming at the sight of titties jiggling or partially bare

no one can convince me this isn't a form of socialized brain damage

 

[Jace on ice]

there is something legitimately wrong with people when they can accept blood and guts while screaming at the sight of titties jiggling or partially bare

no one can convince me this isn't a form of socialized brain damage

Yea it's weird as hell. I've seen people on here claiming to be straight men that screech and wail that some sideboob in a Calvin Klein ad is "pornography."

Like 35% of men under 30 are virgins for the first time ever, I really really don't think too much sex is an issue here guys.

 

[Mola Ram]

Yea it's weird as hell. I've seen people on here claiming to be straight men that screech and wail that some sideboob in a Calvin Klein ad is "pornography."

I hate to make this argument, but the more I see these reactions the more I think it's a shame thing. I make no bones about being to the right of Attila the Hun, and as someone trying to be a writer I spend a lot of time with other writers who are politically simpatico ... and so many of them are unnervingly Puritanical about sexual matters, the kind of pre-2000s schoolmarms who pearl-clutched about sex. I don't disagree with them if you're talking about stuff geared toward children or even teens, but this attitude extends even to things explicitly made for adults.

Anyway, one of the arguments I've seen is that writers should avoid sex scenes completely because a) it never advances the plot or characters, ever (an insane proposition), and b) ... because readers should not be tempted. Tempted by what, exactly? You read something like that and you can't escape the conclusion that the person who said it read a spicy scene, physically or emotionally responded to it, and then was ashamed of their own response. People like that need to be kept away from any power to edit or censor.

And while Patrick Weekes is obviously the furthest thing imaginable from a right winger or devoutly religious, I can totally see him thinking the Desire Demons are pretty sexy, and then thinking "muh-muh-muh-maybe I'm not so nonbinary after all!" and then drowning in exactly the same kind of shame a fundie Christian he despises would experience.

Self-castrating eunuchs should not be permitted near art.

 

[Sailor Swift]

Frankly it sounds like Weekes just resents writers who are smarter than he is.

It's a nasty trend, and has been for a very long time. It's one thing to not enjoy a piece of classic literature, or to be critical of its creator. It's another thing to trash them in a vain effort to prop up your own weak writing.

Self-castrating eunuchs should not be permitted near art.

It castrates their own message, their own art, their own work. The work and messages of others. There's this weird binary that seems to exist, that it either has to be completely sexless or over the top gooner bait. No nuance allowed.

 

[Mola Ram]

It castrates their own message, their own art, their own work. The work and messages of others. There's this weird binary that seems to exist, that it either has to be completely sexless or over the top gooner bait. No nuance allowed.

As Amadeus is in the news lately because of what looks like to be a truly appalling remake, let me quote a Mozart line that appears only in the play:

"Have you heard his music? That's the sound of someone who can't get it up!"

 

[God of Nothing]

It castrates their own message, their own art, their own work. The work and messages of others. There's this weird binary that seems to exist, that it either has to be completely sexless or over the top gooner bait. No nuance allowed.

It is fucking ridiculous. The irony of this entire conversation being everyone who laughed at Origins for having clothed sex scenes once are now the people who would deride that as pornographic.

 

[Johan Hulth]

Failguard was strung together from the remnants of a live service using the art, assets, characters and even voice lines that were in place for that. According to Jason Schrier, when EA mandated the change back to SP in 2021 Bioware were told they only had 6 months to ship it. That's why the game gets a lot of praise for its performance and lack of bugs - they spent 3 years polishing the turd. Also according to Schrier, at some point the Mass Effect team had to take over the salvage operation and you can clearly see where they added in more "badass" scenes and dialled up the ending to where the last two sequences play out almost exactly like ME2 and ME3's final stages.

Taash having the horniest romance is probably no accident. Sexing it up is ok if it falls under the banner of """"queer"""" Although I have seen a fair amount of horror at how grapey the Taash sex scene is from disappointed woke fans. Also seems to have a meta commentary going about "wall pushing". A lot was said among fan girls about a DA2 shag with Fenris when he pushes Hawke against a wall. Think it's in reference to that.

Edit: Retarded formatting

 

[Mola Ram]

This is like Jessica Alba saying that she wouldn't strip in Sin City because she didn't want to be seen as just a sex object. Jessica, you are just a sex object. That's all you have going for you. Sawyer, you do write masturbatory fantasy indulgence.

Holy fuck. I may have to consider the possibility that Weekes was literally Ludovico'd somewhere in a BioWare subbasement.

 

[StacticShock]

no one can convince me this isn't a form of socialized brain damage

worse, it's woman shaming aftereffects for pussy crumbs.
literally look at all of the "gaming sex scandals" biggest detractors, mostly old and unloved women that haven't been touched by a man in decades looking for something to put themselves as the center of attention because all the pretty ladies have it now and some orbiters looking to be seen as the "better men", not to mention the law grifters looking for a quick buck but that's just biznes.

 

[Prophetic Spirit]

Taash having the horniest romance is probably no accident. Sexing it up is ok if it falls under the banner of """"queer"""" Although I have seen a fair amount of horror at how grapey the Taash sex scene is from disappointed woke fans. Also seems to have a meta commentary going about "wall pushing". A lot was said among fan girls about a DA2 shag with Fenris when he pushes Hawke against a wall. Think it's in reference to that.

At least i never played as a female in any of the games. Fenris is a edgelord piece of shit which i only max his friendship before doing all the shit he hates. Lmao.

 

[BlankSpaceBaby]

worse, it's woman shaming aftereffects for pussy crumbs.
literally look at all of the "gaming sex scandals" biggest detractors, mostly old and unloved women that haven't been touched by a man in decades looking for something to put themselves as the center of attention because all the pretty ladies have it now and some orbiters looking to be seen as the "better men", not to mention the law grifters looking for a quick buck but that's just biznes.

These are the same kind of women now shrieking in offended rage because TayTay, their goddess of cat ladies, is now writing about getting dicked by a redneck and wanting to populate the world with kids that look like him. The same ones mad that Sidney Sweeney is getting roles in Hollywood because muh male gaze, ohmygawd.

It's fine if it's the queer gaze or female gaze, if Chris Hemsworth takes out his dick on screen for Chris Evans to suck on it, because that's totally empowering and queer rights or whatever. But switch out Chris Evans for Scarlett Johansson and then it's sexualization, degradation, misogyny, etc.

It's all so tedious. Insecurity, bitterness, jealousy all presented as "mah activism".

 

[Sailor Swift]

These are the same kind of women now shrieking in offended rage because TayTay, their goddess of cat ladies, is now writing about getting dicked by a redneck and wanting to populate the world with kids that look like him. The same ones mad that Sidney Sweeney is getting roles in Hollywood because muh male gaze, ohmygawd.

It's fine if it's the queer gaze or female gaze, if Chris Hemsworth takes out his dick on screen for Chris Evans to suck on it, because that's totally empowering and queer rights or whatever. But switch out Chris Evans for Scarlett Johansson and then it's sexualization, degradation, misogyny, etc.

It's all so tedious. Insecurity, bitterness, jealousy all presented as "mah activism".

I remember when the promo images for Showgirl started getting released, and there was a number of swifties complaining about Taylor "sexualizing" herself and how tacky it was. The meltdowns over the album have been fucking bonkers tbh. And mind you, these are the same people buying multiples of the album for their collections.
(For what it's worth, the promo images were stunning and practically conservative by today's standards.)

Grown ass women aren't allowed to "sexualize" themselves. They're not allowed to express desire or satisfaction. Fans have a weird way of infantilizing the characters and people they love. It's like they're threatened by them stepping outside of that box, especially if that that person or character is someone they usually relate to.

Using Taylor as an example again, she can't be sexual in their eyes. She can't want to be seen as someone who is content with her body or her appearance. She has to be the love lovebroken best friend, the pretty girl next door. Granted, Taylor built that image herself, but some swifties cling to it because it doesn't threaten their confidence. Sexy Taylor inspires envy, Dorky Taylor does not.

The same can be applied here.

 

[Waifuchu]

The weird puritanical bent is, for some reason, something that can be both "woke" and "based" depending on how you phrase it. You could make a mod for, let's say Dragon Age Origins, that will cover up every inch of skin shown off by female outfits. Title it something like: "De-Objectification Overhaul: No Incel Porn Addicts Allowed!" and you'd get praised on Nexus posts and games journo articles about how you're finally fixing these ages-old problems that never should've existed in the first place...

Then turn around, post the exact same mod on BasedMods or ModHQ, frame it as "removing degeneracy" and there you go, you're doing God's work.

 

[Mola Ram]

The weird puritanical bent is, for some reason, something that can be both "woke" and "based" depending on how you phrase it. You could make a mod for, let's say Dragon Age Origins, that will cover up every inch of skin shown off by female outfits. Title it something like: "De-Objectification Overhaul: No Incel Porn Addicts Allowed!" and you'd get praised on Nexus posts and games journo articles about how you're finally fixing these ages-old problems that never should've existed in the first place...

Then turn around, post the exact same mod on BasedMods or ModHQ, frame it as "removing degeneracy" and there you go, you're doing God's work.

The whole "wokeness" craze clarified for me that it's the puritanical impulse that's really important to the people who indulge it, and the reasoning for it is merely the excuse.

H.L. Mencken defined puritanism as "the haunting fear that someone, somewhere, may be happy." The last decade or so has proved him righter than he knew.