Dragon Age: The Veilguard - A woke disaster? Yep!

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Are u woke enough for this game?

  • Hell yeah, I want play it with my wife's son

    Votes: 170 9.4%
  • Nope, I need to suck more girlcock first

    Votes: 393 21.8%
  • Yasss, I identify as an autistic dwarf of color

    Votes: 377 20.9%
  • Nah, I rather play Fallout76

    Votes: 862 47.8%

  • Total voters
    1,803
Whichever team that did Mass Effects 1 and 3 are gone anyway, as the team behind Mass Effect Andromeda was just a little less HIV+ than the Bush Tranny and Fat Fuck Weekes.

It's like there is something about the progressive kuru that makes these mutants unable to create likable, believable, and relatable characters as well as compelling story lines. Their default mode seems to be "I'm writing about my anime avatar in a game that is all about ME-EEE-EEE-EEE and my bel-eee-eee-eee-efs to own the phobes and chuds and FUCK YOU TRUMP!!!!111111"
It's less progressive kuru, and more about the progressive credentialism, lack of lived experiences and echo chambers being enforced on the creative arts scene. Compare the writers now to the writers of a hundred, or even twenty years ago.

Tolkien went to war and back, and generally lived a full life even before starting on his magnum opus. Lovecraft was a recurrent dropout and had to make do with amateur journalist work before he started writing his great works. Even Queen TERF Rowlings started her career destitute and had to juggle multiple temp jobs then to get by.

And what does the modern (American) writer do these days? Spend 12 years immersed in the progstew of American schooling system. Spend an additional 5 years taking debt to study about Black Literature or something. Go straight to a cushy job in vidya writing about yass kween slay due to nepotism. Get fired because their writing is dogshit. Lol.
 
Go straight to a cushy job in vidya writing about yass kween slay due to nepotism.
I regard this as the big one. In an attention economy, with a wild proliferation of leisure content - things you don't actually need that much of - people who come from cushy backgrounds, skip the queues, and have the connections to get pushed to the front of the line with marketing behind them... tend to dictate the overall tone and tenor. So when these people are almost all slop-humans, who don't even have a tertiary relationship to reality, you get the media environment we're in today.

Though in fairness, I don't think it's anything new per-se. When we look at cool periods and 'dark ages' for other entertainment mediums, I think we see a lot of similar signs: incompetence bubbling up, people with a genuine love of the medium getting drowned under nepo-hires as the C-suite sips champagne right up until the industry crashes.

The nepo-hires like Weekes that get in also do their best to create barriers to people like Gaider (who, if you look into, did shit like managing hotels prior to his BW gig): actual writers are a real threat to stupid nepo shitheads, so you create a bureaucratic HR-nightmare to ensure that your studio (and all the other ones) filter out people with talent to keep the good times rolling for incompetent people. And this system works until the competent veterans say "fuck it" and leave, again like Gaider.
 
It's like there is something about the progressive kuru that makes these mutants unable to create likable, believable, and relatable characters as well as compelling story lines. Their default mode seems to be "I'm writing about my anime avatar in a game that is all about ME-EEE-EEE-EEE and my bel-eee-eee-eee-efs to own the phobes and chuds and FUCK YOU TRUMP!!!!111111"

Others have made the point that a lack of life experiences and trying to write when all you've ever done is marinade in the progressive hell of higher ed is a big problem, so I'll point out another one.

Art is not inherently right wing, nor is reality -- I've heard these arguments before and they seem self-flattering. But the honest portrayal of reality and of characters will demonstrate that many values and traditions that the writer may not agree with still have their virtues, and their appeal, and often the ring of truth no matter what age you may be living in.

Take Alan Moore's eternal (and hilarious) frustration with the way audiences cleave to Rorschach. In his mind, he did everything he could to make Rorschach an appalling figure: he's short, he's ugly, his hygiene sucks, he lives in filth, he's a misogynist with a fear of sex, and he's a hypocrite in his cheering for the use of the atom bomb while being totally broken over bearing witness to Ozymandias's master plan. But Moore did not make a point of laughing at him or reducing him to a figure of insult: he portrayed him negatively but honestly, showing that his unbending, black-and-white morality would not allow him to live in Ozymandias's new world, and it's his foresight that almost certainly will undo it, despite his death.

Moore wanted us to see a psychotic goofball. The audience saw a morally virtuous hero who would die for his beliefs. And while Moore is an excellent writer, he's such a self-impressed shitlib that he claims not to understand this reaction to this day.

Now take writers who are even further indoctrinated by even less intellectually rigorous dogma, and with even fewer life experiences (I don't really know Moore's background, I confess, but he doesn't come from the era where one went right into comics from college or art school). It's not just they're incapable of portraying things they disagree with entertainingly or honestly; it's that there must be no mistakes on the audience's part of what something means.

"Aqun-athlok" is a fantasy term that might be open to mean something other than the very specific gender-nonconformity we envision? Can't have that, stick the term "non-binary" right in there! These factions are morally gray? Nonsense, this is a hero, everything he/she/they does is Simon Pure, make sure even the pirates don't steal from marginalized peoples! The Tevinters have some sympathetic characters among them? Don't portray a lick of the slavery that's been present since the first game; otherwise every Tevinter is a piece of shit who needs to die!

No nuance, no shades of gray, but most of all no room for the audience to interpret things and possibly get it wrong. Just look at the retarded arguments over the movie adaptation of Starship Troopers sometime, and how pants-shittingly furious the "media literate" get over people enjoying it as a fun dumb action movie and cheering humanity against the bugs. "Wrong" interpretations like that simply cannot be allowed.

... even if it turns your writing into absolute dogshit. There are priorities.
 
Don't portray a lick of the slavery that's been present since the first game; otherwise every Tevinter is a piece of shit who needs to die!
they definitely should have portrayed the rampant slavery in Tevinter but that doesn't mean they should have been portrayed as evil pieces of shit that need to die. Tevinter is the DA version of Rome and from their view the rest of Thedas is a bunch of evil savages who have been oppressing mages for a millennia, follows a false pope and has betrayed their trust by making peace with the Qunari. they should have given us a new perspective when taking place in such a different and alien place compared to what we have seen so far but instead it was all just modern day soy slop.
 
Now take writers who are even further indoctrinated by even less intellectually rigorous dogma, and with even fewer life experiences (I don't really know Moore's background, I confess, but he doesn't come from the era where one went right into comics from college or art school). It's not just they're incapable of portraying things they disagree with entertainingly or honestly; it's that there must be no mistakes on the audience's part of what something means.
They are not allowed, by themselves or others, to portray anything they consider bad as being done competently, or with conviction, or have the villain or group view it as good to them.

ALL depiction is endorsement for them, so all depiction has to be properly presented, this has made them unable to write anything good, this simple core problem.. you'll never "love to hate" any villain they make, the hero's will never be anything but virtuous leftists, or converted moderates/rightists to the cause, and usually if they are converted, they will also suffer immensely as penance.

Its so rote, so predictable, that even normies who don't know any of this shit, perceive it, and anticipate it, they've latched to the word "Woke" to label it, but they they don't even really understand it.. just that they hate it, and they know who's doing it.

This will, I'm afraid, continue for many more years, the Leftoids simply have dug in too deep, they know what the gen pop hate, but they don't care, they are NOT ALLOWED to deviate, else they be consumed.
 
Progressives tend to see all art as essentially a long winded didactic sermon-its justifying or advocating for something thus the responsible non problematic artist makes sure to check their ts and xs.. Hence Weekes being upset over people cosplaying as the 501st-if your media makes people think fascists are cool, that's not just part of the business-that's a profound artistic sin.

All art they say is political, they put messages in art because they believe art is ultimately nothing but a message-add leftist purity politics, tumblr culture, etc... and you get modern wokeism in media.

They're fine fundamentally if this fails commercially or is critically panned-in fact they tend to see this as making it more virtuous...not less. If media is popular-that automatically makes it suspicious. What bad politics could it be perpetuating they ask?

It guarantees artistic stagnation and rot of course but they are...basically fine with this.
 
again like Gaider
Gaider was/is a lolcow of his own, and the only reason he's fondly remembered is that his games came out before woke retards were given free reign to sink projects with their clownish behavior and appalling writing.

(I don't really know Moore's background
The man believes he is a wizard that can do actual magic.

This will, I'm afraid, continue for many more years, the Leftoids simply have dug in too deep, they know what the gen pop hate, but they don't care, they are NOT ALLOWED to deviate, else they be consumed.
The problem for them is that there's very few new hosts to parasitize. They will attempt to latch onto Japanese companies, but for most of them they're looking at complete and total annihilation, as more and more entertainment companies fail as propping them up becomes unsustainable, or are bought out by foreign capital, or simply rendered irrelevant by "superior" products made by foreigners (Chinese or Koreans).

Even now, they're nearly all screaming into an empty void, most people having given up and tuned out.

All art they say is political
Because to them, their religion is all that matters.

It's like with Muslims, where everything relates to Islam in some way or other, and everything in society needs to be seen through the filter of Islam to determine if it is haram or not.

Leftists are much the same. It's indicative that they will lose interest in every property they've successfully scalped, because to them its value was not that they liked it or wanted more of it, but that it could be used to push their ideology onto more potential converts.
 
There's a larger conversation to be had about the shift in modern gaming--the "woke" left pandering to tacky stereotypes in hopes of winning brownie points, the fear of offending far-right, and the cultural drain that the whole thing is circling. All it's done is harm game development, and thus the art of. If there ever was such a thing.

I'm tired. I just want to fuck the desire demon without being judged by the game I paid money for.
 
I'm tired. I just want to fuck the desire demon without being judged by the game I paid money for.
Well, it is possible in Origins being a mage and entering the fade to confront Connor's demon.
But:
  • You can get a talent point.
  • You can learn Blood Magic.
So, having sex with the demon is pointless.
 
Well, it is possible in Origins being a mage and entering the fade to confront Connor's demon.
But:
  • You can get a talent point.
  • You can learn Blood Magic.
So, having sex with the demon is pointless.
but you get to fuck a demon made out of desire itself in a setting that is desperately terrified of them because they're uber powerful
it's not worth more than a talent but you have to admit that is fucking hardcore
 
but you get to fuck a demon made out of desire itself in a setting that is desperately terrified of them because they're uber powerful
it's not worth more than a talent but you have to admit that is fucking hardcore
Oh yes, i admit that too.
But in the same setting which you can fuck a witch, a bard and even a pirate... Nah, desire demons can suck my dick.
 
You know what the most ridiculous thing?
Playing as female and romancing Alistair makes you a cuckquean if you want to live.
Meanwhile, being a male makes you a chad either way.
Do not underestimate the lengths in which I will go to become the grey queen.

That being said the only true romance for the lady warden is Gorim, and it's a bloody shame that the dwarf warden can't continue her affair with him.
 
I never romanced Alistair and always forced him to fuck Morrigan just because the two hate each other and I fucking hate both of them so me living and making the two people I hate the most suffer like getting paid 3 times.
A bit schizo but well, everybody had their choices.
Meanwhile Inquisition:
  • A or B about near everything.
Near any main quest had that formula (only once a third way appears). Side quests are just straightfoward.
Even DA2 had some third alternatives.
The theory about being a MMO is strong.
 
Right around the time Inquisition was released there was a weird ass trend of adding live service elements like real time resource gathering to strictly single player games.

Another example of this was Metal Gear Solid 5.

I'm really glad that died quickly and never became a reoccurring thing.
 
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