Dragon Age: The Veilguard - A woke disaster? Yep!

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Are u woke enough for this game?

  • Hell yeah, I want play it with my wife's son

    Votes: 170 9.4%
  • Nope, I need to suck more girlcock first

    Votes: 393 21.8%
  • Yasss, I identify as an autistic dwarf of color

    Votes: 377 20.9%
  • Nah, I rather play Fallout76

    Votes: 862 47.8%

  • Total voters
    1,803
With regards to romance ruining thing, I feel that it's letting you play as a female that is the crux of the problem when it comes to BioWare games. Geralt is male, so to an average shut-in, self-diagnosed autistic trans landwhale, romancing Yriss, Cirie, or Yennifer isn't the same as playing a sparkledust Dalish UwU waif or a Disney warrior princess to romance the usual suspects: Cullen, Solas, Alistair... god knows whom the woobie would be in this game. Those are the worst fandom/shippers in this game.
That does make it worse, see CP2077, but I think romance in general just leads to stupidity. It's the issue of "we can't have nice things".
Honestly, The Witcher is 100% wish fulfillment for edge lords, who want to hunt monsters, and fuck BPD women. At least it was honest about what it wanted to be.
The games certainly are, the books are more about the romantic misadventures of fucked up people. You could tell that the sex stuff in TW1 in particular was entirely a sex sells type thing rather than trying to write something decent.
 
Most older Bioware titles "turned out alright" as well. The issue is what comes after. CDProject Red have gone on a similar trajectory with CP2077 in terms of attracting more coomers from all corners.
I dunno, it's difficult to see Cyberpunk as particularly coomerized, though I wonder if this is only because the romanceable characters were generally unappealing. Of the two fuckable women Julie was the one who wasn't annoying and despite playing an asian man I wasn't anywhere near feminine enough to get in her pants. Even with the dudes I feel like I'd be put off by River's Gears of War physiognomy if I was a woman and the same goes for Kerry's scuzzy washout aesthetic if I was a homo.
 
Now the "creators" are all these fundamentally broken socially isolated people who haven't stepped away from a screen since they were 12 years old. They don't base their creative works on life, because they have not actually experienced life; they base it on other creative works that they have consumed while sitting in front of a computer. And as the circle of "acceptable" creative works to consume gets smaller and smaller, and the artists with "normal" human experience get pushed out by the retard shut-ins, it will just get worse and worse.
A lot of this social isolation bleeds into the game more than I thought it would, there is clearly trauma dumping going on within some of the dialogue between characters at different stages of the game. Taash arguing with her mom is analogous to authority imposed on these writers/consultants when they were children, parents not letting them be a "free spirit" but never fully outgrowing the immaturity, and resent them for it. "Pulling a Bharv" where society misgenders them and dont really want to deal with the insanity by quickly getting it over with, this is the more obvious one that targets the player (the average consumer) who doesn't immediately play along with the illness. The last is God, trannies hate the Maker, not just in Dragon Age, they hate the idea that possibly an ethereal being made them "wrong". The slogan "defy the gods" seems more literal than hyperbole, they butcher themselves instead of embracing being a sacred image to appease their own retarded perversion of humanity.

You got to hand it to them, this game is probably the most jarring one in awhile. Dustbowl came out not too long ago but at least it didn't rob an IPs carcass to disguise itself as anything other than obvious propaganda.
 
So, first impressions after a few hours:

Gameplay is actually not bad.
The one they showed in the gameplay reveal was the worst they could have shown, the combat gets leagues better after you have a few more traits and skills.
It is def better than combat in Inquisition was.

The world is extremely colorful, gratingly so. The second fucking level looks like a Disney forest. Would be fine in ANYTHING ELSE than Dragon Age.

The characters you start with are ....fine. They are not actively annoying until you meet the Asian Elf girl, who behaves like an autistic, quirky self-insert.
Dialogue is pretty weak overall, but not actively offensive for now.

That your character is joking around in typical millenial-snark while extremely high stakes are established from the very beginning is fucking bizarre and is the thing going on my nerves the most for now.


I expect a genderqueer pixar prnxess to show up any minute

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I dunno, it's difficult to see Cyberpunk as particularly coomerized, though I wonder if this is only because the romanceable characters were generally unappealing. Of the two fuckable women Julie was the one who wasn't annoying and despite playing an asian man I wasn't anywhere near feminine enough to get in her pants. Even with the dudes I feel like I'd be put off by River's Gears of War physiognomy if I was a woman and the same goes for Kerry's scuzzy washout aesthetic if I was a homo.
Hey I never said they were as good as Bioware when it comes to peddling to degenerates, just that they're following in their footsteps. Don't forget you get to preview your character's genitals and choose between cut and uncut penis, even though it has no bearing on the game unless you run around naked. If that's not coomer bait, I don't know what is.
Nice chin, by the way.
 
Hey I never said they were as good as Bioware when it comes to peddling to degenerates, just that they're following in their footsteps. Don't forget you get to preview your character's genitals and choose between cut and uncut penis, even though it has no bearing on the game unless you run around naked. If that's not coomer bait, I don't know what is.

Nice chin, by the way.
Wait that's a vanilla feature? I thought it was something I'd accidentally picked up from one of the billion mods I installed.
 
Wait that's a vanilla feature? I thought it was something I'd accidentally picked up from one of the billion mods I installed.
I still remember it being the equivalent to BG3's gay bear sex when it came to pre-release gossip.
 
It's clear they now just want it to be completely non/safe-edgy, like BG3 (afaik),

Well that's just not true. BG3 allows you to outright murder and kill every single NPC, side with evil and enslave the world, be an absolute cunt who cares about nothing, tell companions their lil emotional rants don't matter and to fuck off. It also has a lot of death in it and grusome gore at times. The game isn't written on par with Planescape Torment but let's not act as if it doesn't let you RP in a way you wish or pull punches. Because it doesn't. You want to genocide and murder everyone? You can. It's even got an origin to play through as a complete murder hobo and that's a viable strategy to win the game.
 
Suspension of disbelief and all that. But suspension of disbelief doesn't mean I have to put up with them being put in bikini armor.
You don't actually have to put with anything because you won. All male interests are nerfed to not make women uncomfortable. All male interests are controlled by 40 year old female busy bories. like you, and now everything will be sexually neutered with no Thumos whatsoever.
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The best stories of Red Sonja, the archetypal example of "bikini armor", were written by men, when she had the bikini armor. The worst run of Red Sonja was written by Gail "Birds of Prey" Simone, but hey... she is fully clothed now so by your standards she was improved, correct? Did you ever bought a single Red Sonja comic? Did you get triggered by a comic that you never read? Did you buy the Gail Simone's version of Red Sonja? Did you ever put your wallet where your morals are? Of course don't. Your types never do and never will. Every demand that you make is worthless both from a cultural and economic standpoint. Hence "go woke, go broke".
Not unless the men are also dressed just as sluttily.
What retarded equivalence. Male sex appeal is based on aesthetics. Female sex appeal is based on the literary trope of "a dangerous guy has fallen in love with me". Men watch porn. Women read porn. The social sex keeps wattpad alive; keeps an entire industry of soft-core porn sophisticated romance a float with twilight knock-offs. Each one of these books contain 300 pages of wordcel preamble on why the prince/werewolf/pirate/executive/vampire is raping passionately having sex with a dainty 20 something girl. On top of that, I rarely see women gush over male nudity or men in bondage. But I have seen a lot of gushing over men in fully clothed and tailored suit or a simple botton up with a rolled up sleeve.
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The combat is pretty horrible, reminds me of Mass Effect, Hogwarts, God of Soy, Guardians and not in a good way. Companions do fuck-all but at least they're invulnerable. Dodge, dodge, dodge, dodge, curse that there's no cover, dodge, finally get a shot in, dodge, rinse, repeat.

Just recruited Taash, I assume he's a transwoman(or whatever) and he eventually decides to become non-binary. But the worst part is that he acts like an insufferable 12 year old.
 
I don't remember that. I do remember Cora being quite cute even if she had a "Can I talk to the Pathfinder?" haircut. I feel like the MEA characters were more mid than dysgenic, though.
What sucks is that its actually really easy to get them both to look a lot nicer with a few tweaks. I forget which mod or mods I used for Cora but here's the one I used for Peebee.
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Night and fucking day.
 
Modern DA markets itself to a few key demographics.

Trannies that want the elation of society affirming them.

Lesbian women that want cute elf girlfriends(admittedly that's more understandable),

and well..that's kinda it

You see this even in Inquisition.

Take playing a female Lavellan-you get basically every romance option except Dorian and Cassandra.

Cassandra is the one heterosexual romance option(and she's about as butch as the stereotypes are(she isn't that bad and I like Cassandra as a character but the archetype of masculine lesbo is pretty obvious), which makes the double subversion of her being straight and liking "conventional" romance all the more jarring). And Dorian-who is clearly for the male gay demographic.*

Iron Bull/Sera/Josephine appeal to mixtures of the above and anyone who doesn't want to romance Solas.

But female lesbian fans played the cute female elf(and also a mage)-which I think shows the main demographic for DA.

Its queerish women, and (extremely) effeminate men, whether they be regular lesbians, MTF trannies, or just "non binary" frustrated women.

Male players are very much not catered too after DA2. This is so obvious in DAI-Cassandra and Josephine aren't bad, but don't have any particular sex appeal either.

The impression you get playing a male Trevelyan(or even Lavellan) is the game is saying "oh you want to be a straight male, well here's the scraps'-in terms of the clear heart and emphasis the narrative spends, compared to say female elves. (and I actually like the way my male Trevelyan and Lavellan came out actually)

*Cassandra is fascinating because there are mods to make her a lesbian, and a lot of female fans frustrated they can't romance her. "My butch dyke warrior is...into men!!!!!!!!!!!!"

Anyway, long autistic ramble aside, modern DA is intended for women and gays. Aesthetically, in terms of romance options(and the clear disparities involved in said romance options), and increasingly in terms of narrative and tone, and if you aren't of that demographic-the game acknowledges you exist, but does not remotely cater to you beyond the bare minimum for an RPG.

This was not the case in DAO or DA2. Even if both had gay relationships and plenty of opportunities for "STRONG FEMALE SELF INSERTS AND THEIR GIRLFRIENDS!"
 
More like for modern women that want badly to be long-haired blonde elves.


Lucanis and Neve hook up if you don't grab one of them first. I just can't with Lucanis's voice. It's not... manly.
 
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