Donald Smith vs Jonathan Yaniv - 8/11/2020 Criminal Case Update

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beeble said:
I never said Jessica is innocent. I am saying Donald is no angel. It is not logical to assume that I'm declaring Jessica innocent by painting Donald as an utter moron for the things he does. Both of them deserve to be in jail for the things they do.
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I never implied that you said he was innocent. I'm saying for someone so whiney about hurt feelings yaniv dishes more shit out than what he actually receives and deserves. If yaniv didn't fling shite around perhaps "moron" Donald woudn't be doing what he's doing.

beeble said:
Donald would be doing what he's doing with someone else if Yaniv wasn't in the picture. Donald just happened to latch on to a story where he could abuse someone with the support of social media. Donald's past shows he abuses and harasses people and gets in trouble with the law over it. Donald didn't get criminal harassment charges in Calgary because of Yaniv. When the Janiv story dies down and Donald can't tard cum it he will find another person to abuse.
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And? When Donald starts anonymously targetting, intimidating and trying to extort money from mainly women of colour (abusing the legal system to do so) or when he targets and goes out of his way to try and intimidate folks on social media, getting their a/cs closed or perhaps when he threatens people with throat-slitting or out and out murder because he doesn't like what's written online or when he grooms young kids online then I might have a different opinion. Until he stoops to white trash level as is jonathan yaniv then my opinion remains.

KF will no doubt find someone else to mock and "abuse" when yaniv's story dies down, so no difference on that score is there?
 
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pr3nt177 said:
If yaniv didn't fling shite around perhaps "moron" Donald woudn't be doing what he's doing.
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Donald would be doing what he's doing with someone else if Yaniv wasn't in the picture. Donald just happened to latch on to a story where he could abuse someone with the support of social media. Donald's past shows he abuses and harasses people and gets in trouble with the law over it. Donald didn't get criminal harassment charges in Calgary because of Yaniv. Donald doesn't have a trial in January for allegedly harassing EComm staff because of Janiv. Donald doesn't have a peace bond against him for uttering a threat at a Vancouver police officer because of Janiv. When the Janiv story dies down and Donald can't mil k it anymore he will find another person to target.
 
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beeble said:
Donald would be doing what he's doing with someone else if Yaniv wasn't in the picture. Donald just happened to latch on to a story where he could abuse someone with the support of social media. Donald's past shows he abuses and harasses people and gets in trouble with the law over it. Donald didn't get criminal harassment charges in Calgary because of Yaniv. Donald doesn't have a trial in January for allegedly harassing EComm staff because of Janiv. Donald doesn't have a peace bond against him for uttering a threat at a Vancouver police officer because of Janiv. When the Janiv story dies down and Donald can't mil k it anymore he will find another person to target.
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Donny boy needs some time away from this. JY has got him whipped into a frenzy, and it's obvious from watching Donny's streams that he definately needs mental health services.

Which, of course, are completely swamped by thousands of troons, since now "gender dysphoria" is celebrated, given to anyone who shows a small interest it in, and automatically given the wrong gender because "I feel like a woman but I love my cock and balls"; instead of treated like a proper mental health issue.

Self ID laws are going to burn this country, hard. Either that, or a 7' tall houseape named Jimbo (self ID as Jane) putting a wig on and actually putting women into danger happens. Thankfully, we haven't seen that, yet, I feel it is just a matter of time
 
I just don't think I can take someone that seriously who refers to Jonathan unironically as "Jessica". They seem to get pretty worked up over what happens to Yaniv, but don't really have any concern at all for Donald even though Donald is fucking up because he is a barely functioning sped.

Both are lolcows, but Yaniv could choose to behave properly if he actually wanted to. He's got enough of an IQ to know when he's crossing a line. I'm not so sure Donald does. It's not that I think Donald is completely innocent or correct in what he is doing -- I just think he's not fully capable of making rational decisions, so I cut him some slack. Yaniv could do better but refuses to, so I think he deserves any and all criticism. Yaniv's behavior should generate more outrage because he is the bigger creep here.

And in a tard fight between the two, it is an easy pick which one I'd like to see come out on top. The non-pedo option is always going to be the better choice.
 
There shouldn't be a problem with Donald pestering yaniv as according to the MandaPanda + yaniv log yaniv has tried to cover every angle. page 81:

Sender: “Jessica Yaniv” ,
Message: I’m getting an 810 Peace Bond on Donald Smith",
Recipient: “Manda Panda”,
TimeStamp: "2019-10-14T22:57:23.807Z"
Sender: “Jessica Yaniv” ,
Message: Charging him",
Recipient: “Manda Panda”,
TimeStamp: "2019-10-14T22:57:31.151Z"
Sender: “Jessica Yaniv” ,
Message: For defamatory libel",
Recipient: “Manda Panda”,
TimeStamp: "2019-10-14T22:57:37.164Z"
Sender: “Jessica Yaniv” ,
Message: And public mischief",
Recipient: “Manda Panda”,
TimeStamp: "2019-10-14T22:57:48.510Z"
Sender: “Jessica Yaniv” ,
Message: Possibly criminal harassment as well",
Recipient: “Manda Panda”,

btw don't tell anyone as yaniv said it was a secret. "Excessive harassment" apparently and he's downloaded all the evidence.
 
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Spastic Colon said:
I just think he's not fully capable of making rational decisions, so I cut him some slack.
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Donald is fully capable of making rational decisions. Some of his weak spots are lack of a proper education, mental health issues that may make learning more difficult, a problem reading properly, and impulsiveness. Impulsiveness is likely mental health related. When Donald is focussed he can be rational. The problem is that Donald is prone to being impulsive. He doesn't think before he does something when put on the spot. This is made worse when he drinks. That is the reason that people like John Southern try to reign him in when Donald is with them. They can act as a buffer to help prevent him from making rash impulsive choices that will get him in trouble. Unfortunately people can't babysit Donald 24/7. Donald needs mental health support, but interestingly enough he often shuns it when offered since he doesn't believe he needs it.
 
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I cut Donny some slack because he is a sped. From the looks of things he lives in a board & care or similar.
JY on the other hand....Look who his targets are, immigrant women, underage girls & now speds....He sets the bar low because of his own inadequacies
Again I'm reminded of Cartman & the special olympics.
 
Short Stack said:
From the looks of things he lives in a board & care or similar.
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He doesn't live in a board and care facility. He lives in a supportive and affordable housing building. He is in one of Vancouver's single room accommodations (SRA). Some of the assistance his low income housing facility offers is assistance on nutrition, and help finding training and employment opportunities. Someone suggested recently that Donald has a disability trustee, that is also not true. He is a fully independent individual who controls his own life and finances.
 
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beeble said:
He doesn't live in a board and care facility. He lives in a supportive and affordable housing building. He is in one of Vancouver's single room accommodations (SRA). Some of the assistance his low income housing facility offers is assistance on nutrition, and help finding training and employment opportunities. Someone suggested recently that Donald has a disability trustee, that is also not true. He is a fully independent individual who controls his own life and finances.
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I'm curious, how do you know all this?
 
pr3nt177 said:
I'm curious, how do you know all this?
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If you pay attention to his social media ramblings and videos since leaving Port Hardy all of this information is available. He has even identified by name the building he lives at. I don't name the building because I do believe he has a right to his privacy in that regard. People here often focus on the Yaniv material, but there is a lot of info on aspects of his life in all the minutiae between the Yaniv rants and in the material he produced in the months before he knew the name Yaniv. Of course one of the problems is that he's had most of his Twitter accounts shut down and his old Youtube video collection removed. A lot of this information is now much harder to come by if you jump into the Yaniv saga looking to learn about who Donald is based on what is publicly available today.
 
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Now YesThatAnna of TPM (and KF) is doing what John Southern is doing according to a new video today. Like John she's trying to intervene to prevent Donald from going off the rails and getting himself in trouble. She's finally stepping in and trying to convince Donald to stop making videos of Jessica - period. Donald doesn't want to lose respect of people like Jenn Smith, and Anna so occasionally he takes their advice. What Anna has allegedly told Donald would be correct and as I have been saying - it could get him in a lot of legal trouble. I don't want to see Donald with more charges. The problem is that Donald is impulsive and I can see him taking the advice for a bit of time but going back to his old ways soon enough. Given the timing of the video I wondered if Anna had said this after knowing he was calling up the golf course Jessica was attending and the threat to post fliers in Langley about Jessica or this was the culmination of a week of really moronic videos where even some of his supporters tried to tell him to stop what he was doing at times.

beeble said:
The problem is that Donald is impulsive and I can see him taking the advice for a bit of time but going back to his old ways soon enough.
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Apparently that rang true. since a bit of time is less than an hour. He's going to file a human rights complaint on the "pedo" and created a new video. Don't think he has much in the way of grounds to file an HRT complaint since the complaint has to show a possible act of discrimination. Don't see that here at all, but Donald is going to do what Donald is going to do. BC HRT will probably review the complaint and reject it outright. Donald will never let the Janiv case rest until Janiv is in jail which could be quite some time if ever. He won't stop posting videos about Yaniv.
 
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Choose carefully said:
In light of this new, never before offered criticism of the HRT, I'm sure no one will be left in any doubt as to the veracity of your claims that you surreptitiously recording part of one days public hearing and publishing it on an obscure YouTube channel forced the Tribunal into reaching a verdict they didn't support, and has other Tribunals cowering in their boots that you might do it again.
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The staff at the BCHRT were scrambling to stay out of the view of cameras and refused to do any interviews with media.
I wasn't there to put pressure on Jonathan, I was there to put pressure on them. Even the CBC couldn't get interviews with them
until they were backed into a corner on July 26th 2019.

HRT's are government, it's one of many sections of government that are staffed almost entirely of people from the the SJW community in Canada.
Devyn Cousineau is one of the many notorious ones in Vancouver who scored a job there. She's been handing out tens of thousands of dollars to trannies
and her fellow SJW's over the years.


Cousineau is the same BCHRT employee who gave Ronan Oger $50,000 in a judgment against Bill Whatcott for saying Oger is a man.
 
beeble said:
Tonight's video shows why Donald is an utter moron.

- Stoops to a new low over Jessica's father
- Calls in a wellness check over some third party claim about suicide
- Informs the police he spends time on his livestream harassing Jessica
- Too dumb to realize those emails be spammed to him are not coming from Jessica.
- Spends almost 2 hours showing why he's an abusive asshole.

There were some people in the chat trying to tell him how he's screwing up and he refuses to listen. Donald needs time out from society.
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- Kiwifarms posted information about Yaniv's father and family going back to the 30's and started the rumor that he diddled Jonathan.
- Donald didn't do the wellness call.
- Donald knows the emails are fake, I get the same emails and some of the ones being sent are using my email address.
 
Donny is fighting Jonathan back with his own tactics. Jessica does nothing but harass and intimidate others. He gets off on it. In this case, Donald isn't giving in and that's EXACTLY what Jonathan deserves and needs, in my opinion.. I personally hope he doesn't back down.

Not saying Donald is perfect or not an asshole, but I feel he IS needed in this situation. If not for anything, but to strike back against Jonathan who thinks he can do whatever he wants to whoever he wants and is untouchable. It's nice watching him, for once, have someone harass the fuck out of him, like he does to others. I personally just don't care if Donald is less than perfect or an asshole. JY deserves every bit of it.
 
John southern said:
- Donald didn't do the wellness call.
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I'm referring to the second video. It was the one where I believe he was forwarded to Vancouver police at one point. He ended up asking for a wellness check of Yaniv over the allegation that a friend of his was told that Janiv was going to cut her own throat. In that call Donald refused to even say who the third party was, but he was pushing the narrative that Yaniv was suicidal. I also said "calls in a wellness check" because although he called it in, I have no evidence they took it seriously. I believe that is the same call where Donald was expecting a call back but apparently never did.
John southern said:
- Donald knows the emails are fake, I get the same emails and some of the ones being sent are using my email address.
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That's not how he portrays it when he does the videos. He keeps claiming that Janiv is sending all of them. What he really believes may be different than what he's saying in his videos. In that case that just makes him a journalist who lies. Donald has no concrete evidence about who is sending them, but I suspect it isn't even someone on Janiv's side. I think it is more likely a Meower who is baiting Donald to take it all to the police and for it to be useful tool to keep attacking Yaniv.
 
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