Dev has given a brief reply to ACE's video on twitter:
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He's arguing with some people in a few of the comments, but for the most part it's hilarious to see this turn on him after the way he was crowing in his latest seethe stream.
Honestly, this whole "debate" shitfest has been retarded from the get-go. NGL, even Ace dropping the debate is kinda retarded IMO, because it is a kinda-sorta last minute thing, which allows Dev to sneak out with a "sorry, bro. I have other plans." excuse.
BUT, even with that, Dev ends up looking like the bigger retard overall, because
1) He started it with the almost last-minute "Debate me on Whick's stream!" bit. If, at that time, Ace had given the excuse "Sorry Dev, I was out shopping." I doubt Dev would've gone "completely understandable. Let's set up a special debate episode, you and me, on Whick's channel for some other time." (Note: I'm saying Ace here for ease, but it can just as easily apply to pretty much anyone and everyone out there who dislikes Dev's bullshit.)
2) Bragging about it as if the lack of pushback on him was somehow proof he "dindunuffin" or "was absolved" or whatever shit.
3) When Ace had that stream, backing out with a "sorry, I gotta go shopping." excuse. And the thing is, if it actually was that, would be less of an issue because, hey, IRL is always more important. But the fact this guy is then in Mauler's chat indicates the dude just didn't want to talk and was trying to find a reason to go away. Hell, if he'd been upfront in the beginning with the "I'm not talking to you because I feel like you are an A-log who would not give my actions enough charity.", THAT would've been less damaging, because at least it's clear-cut on his views. It'd bring up other issues ("oh, look how poorly he thinks of his critics" and what-not), but it wouldn't be as cowardly as the ducking he did.
It's definitely a "what if", but if Ace had somehow been able to be in Whick's chat and wanted to come on, I wonder whether Dev would be having the same smug attitude he had then. Or if he'd use the same kinda "Oh, he's a bad-faith A-log" to try and duck or blunt it.
Biases aside, a decent sales pitch for Liberalism. And not a bad summation of it's intended functions. The problem, and what he glossed over "for other videos" is the major flaws of Liberalism that are very relevant in recent history. Namely, this shit doesn't work if there is no faith in the system or completely blind faith.
Without trust, everything breaks down as no one can count on the systems for anything. Case and point, Portland let acquitted a homeless man of murder by stabbing simply because the victim said the N word. Racial politics trumped rule of law. On the flip side, blind faith in the system results in infiltration, resulting in the system being usurbed and torn down from within. Such as is the intention with the heavy Islamic immigration in the UK.
We need people to build back trust in society for liberalism to work and that's probably the one thing the Left and Right both don't have: Trust in the system.
Pretty much this. Though "the people need to 'trust in the system'" kinda exists for all systems, not just liberalism; other, more authoritarian systems, "enforce" that trust with a bullet to the back of the head for any pushback. Liberalism is flexible, which is simultaneously it's greatest strength AND weakness; in that it allows it to adapt better than other systems, but it just as easily allows bad-actors with enough useful idiots to shift the system away from liberalism, particularly in crisis times. "Vote Hitler into power", if you will.
I want liberalism to work, but the problem for that is you're gonna have to rebuild faith in the systems, and with the current batch of people at the helm of those systems, both public and private, I unfortunately don't see that happening...at least, not easily.
Kek la Kek, havent seen that many memes but saw this.
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Wait, is that supposed to be Mauler?