⛓️ Incarcerated Daniel Larson / daniellarsoncashapp / helpdaniellarson - A mentally ill pedophile obsessed with becoming a celebrity and his retarded hatedom

[Artorias Sneed]

he's "competent" from an obscene amount of anti-psychotics even though he was completely batshit insane when the "crime" occurred. what a sick joke.

It's a bit of a shock, isn't it? If he's competent then who in the hell is not?

Guess it has to be extremely strick though, or else every man and his dog could get out of standing trial.

 

[Exterminatus]

It's a bit of a shock, isn't it? If he's competent then who in the hell is not?

Guess it has to be extremely strick though, or else every man and his dog could get out of standing trial.

Like AnOminous mentioned a few pages back, the hurdle to actually be ruled mentally competent for a trial is rather low, at least here in the US.

In Dusky vs United States in 1960 SCOTUS established that you, as a defendant, need to have two key things:

Sufficient present ability to consult with a lawyer, with a reasonable degree of rational understanding
A rational and factual understanding of the proceedings against them

This doesn't require the defendant to understand complex legal nuances, or have a high IQ or even be able to represent themselves effectively. They only need to understand the basic nature of the charges, the roles of courtroom participants, the possible penalties, and the ability to assist in their own defense. Daniel is pretty stupid but judges tend to side with psych evaluators at least 80% of the time, so you could also blame whoever examined Daniel and said "Yep this tard definitely can understand what's happening in the courtroom!"

 

[GoGoNoJo]

Daniel is pretty stupid but judges tend to side with psych evaluators at least 80% of the time, so you could also blame whoever examined Daniel and said "Yep this tard definitely can understand what's happening in the courtroom!"

he's "competent" from an obscene amount of anti-psychotics even though he was completely batshit insane when the "crime" occurred. what a sick joke.

It's important to consider that Daniel wasn't just sitting on his ass while he was in that mental health facility. Professional psychiatrists (not internet ones) were actively working to treat his condition and get him to a point where he could stand trial. Not only was that not the case before, but the exact opposite was true; weens and a-logs were actively working to make his delusions worse by feeding into them and role-playing as Grace. We've only ever seen the man under worst conditions, we have no idea what a medicated Daniel Larson is even like.

 

[Whiskey]

We've only ever seen the man under worst conditions, we have no idea what a medicated Daniel Larson is even like.

Gonna bet pretty retarded...

 

[Gravityqueen4life]

If Danial is sane, then i am Einstein. It will be interesting to hear what "sane" Danial sounds like after having all the meds they shoved down his throat.

 

[Lip Glossary]

Guess it has to be extremely strick though

Strict

Like AnOminous mentioned a few pages back, the hurdle to actually be ruled mentally competent for a trial is rather low, at least here in the US.

In Dusky vs United States in 1960 SCOTUS established that you, as a defendant, need to have two key things:

Sufficient present ability to consult with a lawyer, with a reasonable degree of rational understanding
A rational and factual understanding of the proceedings against them

This doesn't require the defendant to understand complex legal nuances, or have a high IQ or even be able to represent themselves effectively. They only need to understand the basic nature of the charges, the roles of courtroom participants, the possible penalties, and the ability to assist in their own defense. Daniel is pretty stupid but judges tend to side with psych evaluators at least 80% of the time, so you could also blame whoever examined Daniel and said "Yep this tard definitely can understand what's happening in the courtroom!"

It's so niggers don't get away with crimes because "muh socio economical" or their low ass IQs. If we have to give a couple of retards the needle to ensure we can still send Jamal to prison, WHERE HE BELONGS, I'm willing to make that sacrifice.
It's not even so much what you're saying as it literally boils down to did the person know what they were doing was wrong? Which is an extremely easy burden to meet.

 

[The Real Francis E Dec]

Let me drop some inside knowledge of how competency in the courts work.

When someone is found incompetent, they ship that person off to a forensic nuthouse. The doctors there then proceed to shove tranquilizers down the accused throat until they start behaving in an acceptable way. The doctors then say the patient is competent even though they know fully well the accused isn't, but because that's how the system is set up. The accused is then sent back to jail where they rapidly degenerate into their base state. Oftentimes, they are already "incompetent" again before their first hearing so they're shipped back to the nuthouse again.

The US spends probably hundreds of millions of dollars a year maintaining this system by the way. Thank your congressman.

 

[Lip Glossary]

Let me drop some inside knowledge of how competency in the courts work.

When someone is found incompetent, they ship that person off to a forensic nuthouse. The doctors there then proceed to shove tranquilizers down the accused throat until they start behaving in an acceptable way. The doctors then say the patient is competent even though they know fully well the accused isn't, but because that's how the system is set up. The accused is then sent back to jail where they rapidly degenerate into their base state. Oftentimes, they are already "incompetent" again before their first hearing so they're shipped back to the nuthouse again.

The US spends probably hundreds of millions of dollars a year maintaining this system by the way. Thank your congressman.

Problem? Dangerous retards and violent criminals are both a problem to the general public and need to be locked away.
This is why mentally ill people need to be FORCED to take their meds. Otherwise they'll commit a crime and after that fuck them. I have no sympathy for retards who don't medicate that go on to commit crimes.

 

[No Batty Boys in Jamaica]

60 IQ Somalis get deemed too incompitent to stand trial and Daniel Larson the poster boy for mental retardation who got provably groomed by weens online gets the book thrown at him.


It is funny ngl.

Reminds me of how serial killer and all around real nigga Nikko Jenkins intentionally scored exactly 69 points on his IQ test when he first went to prison. He knew going just below the cutoff line would raise hell for the legal system. It’d be too obvious if he scored like a pants shitting retard. But if he went above the cutoff line he wouldn’t get much special consideration. Getting a perfect 69 is difficult. He kept track of how he was doing and started giving wrong answers at the exact right time.

When he went to prison in 2013, the issue with his IQ dragged out his trial.


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It is really funny.

 

[Lip Glossary]

Reminds me of how serial killer and all around real nigga Nikko Jenkins intentionally scored exactly 69 points on his IQ test when he first went to prison. He knew going just below the cutoff line would raise hell for the legal system. It’d be too obvious if he scored like a pants shitting retard. But if he went above the cutoff line he wouldn’t get much special consideration. Getting a perfect 69 is difficult. He kept track of how he was doing and started giving wrong answers at the exact right time.

When he went to prison in 2013, the issue with his IQ dragged out his trial.
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It is really funny.
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What's wrong with his face? He looks like a slimmer version of the fat cenobite in hellraiser

 

[Artorias Sneed]

Problem? Dangerous retards and violent criminals are both a problem to the general public and need to be locked away.
This is why mentally ill people need to be FORCED to take their meds. Otherwise they'll commit a crime and after that fuck them. I have no sympathy for retards who don't medicate that go on to commit crimes.

I concur, I mostly fail to see the issue (aside from tax dollars being frittered away, but that's gonna happen no matter what). Though in Daniel's case specifically, giving life in prison to a literal retard who has no realistic way to carry out the threats he made seems excessive? It would feel different if he was more intelligent, expressed an intense interest in weapons, etc. Guess the government feels they need to set the precedent that you can't say shit like that, under any circumstances.

He's quite a fuckup in any case. Him being locked up might be what's best for everyone.

 

[Lip Glossary]

I concur, I mostly fail to see the issue (aside from tax dollars being frittered away, but that's gonna happen no matter what). Though in Daniel's case specifically, giving life in prison to a literal retard who has no realistic way to carry out the threats he made seems excessive? It would feel different if he was more intelligent, expressed an intense interest in weapons, etc. Guess the government feels they need to set the precedent that you can't say shit like that, under any circumstances.

He's quite a fuckup in any case. Him being locked up might be what's best for everyone.

I really don't care if he ends up in some kind of nursing home for retarded people or he ends up in prison, so long as he's locked up.
We should have a system in this country where if they know you're mentally ill that the government pays for your medication and forces you to take it because in the long run it's going to save us way more money and I am absolutely cool with our tax dollars going to that.
But if you are diagnosed with something like schizophrenia or something else that could classify you as a dangerous mentally ill person and you stopped taking your medication or failed to show up to get your medication every month they should just throw you in a home.

 

[Acoustic Virgin]

Can confirm. I worked in psych hospitals during undergrad doing clinical research. Depending on the severity of the unit, it’s basically jail with better furniture. I’d say you have significantly less bodily autonomy than jail depending on the unit. It runs the spectrum, though. Something like a transitional services unit can be pretty open. Other, more acute/severe units, however, different story. I have no idea where Danderson would end up, depends on how he’s responding to his meds and how compliant/successful he is with his treatment.

That's interesting, and it sounds like a nightmare for a normal person, but for someone whose brain is broken, isn't it precisely what is needed?

Sure, to you or me being locked in a facility and having every decision made for you would be torture. But for the patients of those facilities? Out in the real world, they just can't survive independently -- there's too much that they're expected to do that is simply beyond their grasp. They have to get a job, but they are unemployable. They have bills to pay, but because they are unemployable they have no money. There are innumerable laws, rules, and societal norms that they are expected to follow that they simply cannot understand.

The truth is, there are people out there who are incapable of managing even the basics of their own lives, and they need to be cared for somehow. Like with everything, I'm sure there's an opportunity for abuse, but I feel like the alternative - just dumping them out on the street and expecting them to figure it out on their own - is even more cruel.

 

[Lip Glossary]

That's interesting, and it sounds like a nightmare for a normal person, but for someone whose brain is broken, isn't it precisely what is needed?

Sure, to you or me being locked in a facility and having every decision made for you would be torture. But for the patients of those facilities? Out in the real world, they just can't survive independently -- there's too much that they're expected to do that is simply beyond their grasp. They have to get a job, but they are unemployable. They have bills to pay, but because they are unemployable they have no money. There are innumerable laws, rules, and societal norms that they are expected to follow that they simply cannot understand.

The truth is, there are people out there who are incapable of managing even the basics of their own lives, and they need to be cared for somehow. Like with everything, I'm sure there's an opportunity for abuse, but I feel like the alternative - just dumping them out on the street and expecting them to figure it out on their own - is even more cruel.

There are people in these care facilities because I have had friends that have worked in them that are so fucking nutter that they have to be bribed with rewards like candy or stuff like that to take a shower, otherwise they won't take one for months.
I have learned, especially as a loud outgoing person that if I'm around a schizophrenic person and they are shutting down and talking to themselves I need to keep my head leaned away from them because there is a good chance I'm about to be hit.
Schizophrenic people are dangerous as hell and they are usually the people who get found incompetent to stand trial, and the disorder is genetic so we need to start catching it and making sure these people are properly medicated all the time.

 

[No Batty Boys in Jamaica]

What's wrong with his face? He looks like a slimmer version of the fat cenobite in hellraiser

He cut himself to make him seem more insane. The Egyptian serpent god Apophis commanded him to cut his face and his penis.

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[Unfortunate Reality]

There are people in these care facilities because I have had friends that have worked in them that are so fucking nutter that they have to be bribed with rewards like candy or stuff like that to take a shower, otherwise they won't take one for months.
I have learned, especially as a loud outgoing person that if I'm around a schizophrenic person and they are shutting down and talking to themselves I need to keep my head leaned away from them because there is a good chance I'm about to be hit.
Schizophrenic people are dangerous as hell and they are usually the people who get found incompetent to stand trial, and the disorder is genetic so we need to start catching it and making sure these people are properly medicated all the time.

You are overgeneralizing,. Schizophrenic people are definitely not overall just dangerous as hell. Especially if unprovoked. Rarely it can happen, but the biggest danger they are, is to themselves. If you find yourself around violent mentally ill people frequently, without working in a mental hospital, I'd take a look at your own life first, before blaming a disease of someone else for it all.

 

[Homeboy Bob Proctor]

If they release daniel they have to release him to somewhere and hes burned every bridge with disability services in the state of Colorado and is banned from the group homes. I dont know if they throw him in a state hospital or bob Proctor does the dumbest thing ever and takes custody of him.

 

[Star Classic]

If they release daniel they have to release him to somewhere and hes burned every bridge with disability services in the state of Colorado and is banned from the group homes. I dont know if they throw him in a state hospital or bob Proctor does the dumbest thing ever and takes custody of him.

Daniel Larson East Coast saga

 

[Bill Evans 45]

Added to my original post but Daniel is now sympathy farming in prison

Is there any further information about the head injury at three weeks of age? The 'non-accidental' descriptor is pretty chilling. I've had a good search in the thread but nothing has come up.

 

[Lip Glossary]

You are overgeneralizing,. Schizophrenic people are definitely not overall just dangerous as hell. Especially if unprovoked. Rarely it can happen, but the biggest danger they are, is to themselves. If you find yourself around violent mentally ill people frequently, without working in a mental hospital, I'd take a look at your own life first, before blaming a disease of someone else for it all.

Well to be fair every time it happened to me I was in a care facility picking up a friend, I still don't understand what my own life has to do with schizophrenic people being dangerous retards.
Maybe you have a dog in the fight and you're just butt hurt that I'm calling out mentally ill people for the useless pieces of shit and drains on society and tax money that they really are.