Leland Palmer
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Provocative speech is protected.
It really isn't. We can invoke 1A all day long, but there is a line. The situation where you are using potentially lethal force after causing the need for that force is very often where that line is. The Supreme Court knew this with Chaplinsky, but they've also known that not everything qualifies. If anything, what qualifies as "fighting words" anymore has been reduced down to basically just the racial slurs.
We obviously don't know all the facts and won't until the trial
Which makes it fascinating that anyone is creating these wild ass scenarios to defend "ChudtheBuilder" at all. A significant part of this thread is just throwing random bullshit out there to manufacture a defense for what may actually be an attempted murder.
Going forward, is it going to be legal for black people to enact violence on white people that say nigger?
It never has been, and never will be. This and your question after are purely the realm of fantasy.
constantly diminishing right to defend yourself and your property.
If anything you are describing the exact opposite of what is happening nationally. Stand-Your-Ground laws without a duty to retreat are the law of the land in the vast majority of States, most States don't have a duty to retreat in a home and of those some don't even have it in a vehicle. The only way that you can view this as a true sentiment is if you only look at specific areas of the United States. We're past the point of justified self-defense cases like Bernie Goetz being controversial culturally, we are now in the "we must allow self-defense even if they may not pass the smell test according to state rules" era.
the footage their outdoor surveillance cams recorded must be damning.
It's not self defense when you FOLLOW them.
I don't know of a courthouse that allows you to bring your firearms into the facility, either. Most courthouses also don't have a firearms check area. It is entirely possible that he had to leave his gun in his car, had the verbal altercation, went to the car to grab his gun, then went back to continue the altercation. If that is the case, then you are no longer in a self-defense situation.
