Culture Wars General - KiA Diet Coke Edition

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Smaug's Smokey Hole said:
But surely, surely, Daft Punk's "one more time" is anime
https://youtube.com/watch?v=FGBhQbmPwH8No it's not, it is distinctly french.
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For info, France's first & biggest exposures to anime were Grendizer (dubbed Goldorak in french in 1978 ) and Captain Harlock (dubbed Albator in french in the early 80s)
The musician duo in Daft Punk basically approached their childhood inspiration, Leji Matsumoto, for the realization of the Intersella 5555 movie as a visual companion of their Discovery album.
 

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If we're having the "is it anime?!?!" debate, I present to you Galaxy High

This is anime, in fact it's on the anime company's youtube channel. And was an attempt to make a western version of Urusei Yatsura. It was made in 1986.

This is by all means and definitions an anime. They reused many aspects of Urusei Yatsura itself.
 
Smaug's Smokey Hole said:
I don't know what that is and the video won't show but how about that thing about Akira Toriyama's Dr. Slump not being known to present day anime fans except those in Europe in the 80's?
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IIRC Slump got a general release in the west but was still overshadowed by Dragonball because Ariel and the others still look like DBZ characters.

Personally I think It's just really hard for his other shit to break out from under the shadow of Dragonball. Especially if they look like they could exist in the same universe.
 
BananaSplit said:
For info, France's first & biggest exposures to anime were Grendizer (dubbed Goldorak in french in 1978 ) and Captain Harlock (dubbed Albator in french in the early 80s)
The musician duo in Daft Punk basically approached their childhood inspiration, Leji Matsumoto, for the realization of the Intersella 5555 movie as a visual companion of their Discovery album.
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Off topic, but I remember being amazed as a little kid watching the One More Time music video in a mall, thinking it was next level. It blew my mind to find out that they made an Interstella 555 film many years later and that both Matsumoto and Daft Punk both worked together on it.

You never see stuff like that happen organically these days.
 
Marissa Moira said:
If we're having the "is it anime?!?!" debate, I present to you Galaxy High
https://youtube.com/watch?v=buhOXTbyAag
This is anime, in fact it's on the anime company's youtube channel. And was an attempt to make a western version of Urusei Yatsura. It was made in 1986.

This is by all means and definitions an anime. They reused many aspects of Urusei Yatsura itself.
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Shut the fuck up.
 
BananaSplit said:
I think a ban could be a lot more effective as that would prevent him to actually shit up the threads with his countless low-quality posts that contribute nothing and his absolute refusal to actually learn things.
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not a fan of bans tbh, should be up to everyone what he wants to see or not (same reason I don't like people running to mods and whine, most of the time it can be easily solved by ignore and not falling for bait). and fwiw even if he can't or doesn't want to learn, plenty of other kiwis do just like current topic, so I guess there's still value in ignorance.

Traincake said:
You mention the French Connection, and for some reason I can't help but think about a Tintin anime.
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tintin never really worked for me besides some albums, but then I'm more of a old-school spirou fan.
 
BananaSplit said:
The one example that directly comes to my mind is Osamu Tezuka (the godfather of the modern manga as we know it) was a big fan of Walt Disney's animation. Anecdotally, he also studied medicine before getting into comics hence the creation of Blackjack.


I think a ban could be a lot more effective as that would prevent him to actually shit up the threads with his countless low-quality posts that contribute nothing and his absolute refusal to actually learn things.

Come to think, it's not the first time I've mentioned France having a deep relationship with the Japanese for manga/anime. The sonyfaggot always claim bullshit though like this one (in the previous page):
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Just like him pretending the woke mentality doesn't exist and sanitize western games/comics or that social media doesn't have some form of influence in the field, by cancelling people for spouting the wrong opinion

It's rather amazing how he will always ignore proofs from other users while he has pretty much nothing to provide his "claims"
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Except the proofs you offer tend to always skew on the side of your own personal opinions or pre-established biases. So there's very little difference between what you say and a /pol/ shitpost.

Everything I said in that post you linked is true, but you're not looking at it from the right angle.

In the establishing days of global anime, america bore the brunt of everything in the 1980's. Many of those IPs are still well established today. But you had many series try and fail over the years, like St Seya which never caught on because the American market was fucking saturated compared to everything else. So Shows that did not do well there went to other countries and established a base there because there were many vacancies unlike the american market. So yes by saying limited in comparison that is indeed correct. Every TV show needed a toy line and this was another form of pressure for these shows to succeed. It's why Ronin Warriors didn't do all that well either. There's also instances of european lines of figures being nothing but repaints because they couldn't get the newer shit.

American companies were the ones importing the toys and spearheading a shitload of stuff and turned many series into multi-million dollar franchises. European versions of these very same figures were made in much lower quantities or were not brought over to europe at all. Merch shit like action figures was routinely rare in europe in regards to many of these series.

There's 3-4 hours videos online where you can see just how much anime america got in the heyday of the 1980's.


There's no European equivalent to an IP like transformers which is an american IP. The European contribution was mostly the G1 comics(which were made due to the lack of new media) but there's no global series that a European company adapted and released to a global audience to stick around as an evergreen IP.

If you're looking at shit through just the lens of what went on in europe, everything I said could sound bizarre. But the American anime fandom is an entirely different beast than what you're probably familiar with.

And I really can't view the woke mentality as something as horror upon horrors because well, this is like the 5th or 6th incarnation of it that's reared it's head throughout the years that I've witnessed and then it's gone just as quickly as it arose. If I can find a harlan ellison video of him complaining in the late 1980's/early 90's about the same shit in 2022, guess what? People have dealt with the same shit before and getting worked up over it is retarded. I probably have a much wider and longer perspective on things than you do.
 
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BananaSplit said:
Looks like Marissa Moira's objective was to derail the thread far enough so it could get redirected somewhere else in the forum

what a pity
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Nope, I asked politely.

It honestly fits better here and is more in tune with the overall theme.
 
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Marissa Moira said:
Nope, I asked politely.

It honestly fits better here and is more in tune with the overall theme.
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I'm sure it's totally coincidental that it favors Sony for this to be in a less visited forum. Congratulations, your social credit score has been adjusted.
 
ZMOT said:
not a fan of bans tbh, should be up to everyone what he wants to see or not (same reason I don't like people running to mods and whine, most of the time it can be easily solved by ignore and not falling for bait). and fwiw even if he can't or doesn't want to learn, plenty of other kiwis do just like current topic, so I guess there's still value in ignorance.
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There's a big difference between ResetEra/RPGnet style "ban all who don't agree", and what happened here.

Even though I don't like bans, ignoring him didn't work as it requires everyone else, including thread newcomers, to do the same. As a result of his autism he's achieved his goal, albeit indirectly. His goal wasn't worth while discussion, or adding his opinion, he wasn't even trolling. His goal was to shut down all criticism of Soyny using whatever random bullshit he could think of, and given the thread has been relegated to a containment board, he's succeeded.
 
Judge Dredd said:
His goal was to shut down all criticism of Soyny using whatever random bullshit he could think of, and given the thread has been relegated to a containment board, he's succeeded.
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No it literally never was this, I just wanted a larger variety of shitposts.

More diversity if you will.
 
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Marissa Moira said:
No it literally never was this, I just wanted a larger variety of shitposts.

More diversity if you will.
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If you want a diversity of shitpost or whatever, then you would at least need to have more users talking more variety of topics right?
Since this thread was supposed to be general video games only, because pretty much any other stuffs have been covered in other general "drama" threads or more specific kinds.

Let me elaborate:
1) Any twitter or reddit takes non-related to gaming have been covered already in Reddit thread or SJW topics.

2) Anything with comics are in Comicgates or/and Sperg about comics.

3) Specific video games like WoW (or any Blizzard games), Borderlands, FF14 (from players more than from dev), recent Street Fighters and Dom Cruise, Paradox Games. I'm sure anything so painfully woke pandering or coomers/degen tendency have already been discussed in there.
Let's be real, no ones play all video games in entire world to participate all the "Culture wars" in specific games to discuss about them.
Another thing is about video games is that you have to spend your time playing them, not being so terminally online browsing forums and social media.
Also, I don't even think that majority of users here have video games as hobby to make this thread more "engaging".

4) Similar to number 3 above, some or a few threads in mutlimedia also already have been "grieving" over their current state.

If you want to bring a thread in mass debate, the most appropriate one would be Sony hate thread, for obvious reason(s).

Edit: add a bit more in number 3.
 
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Well the PC Port of Dungeon Travelers 2 has been banned by Valve because it was supposedly deemed to have inappropriate scenes regarding minors.

No Gog release is planned and Nintendo tends to use Steam's Banned Database as a guide to what not to allow on their own systems(Dual Princess was pulled from both japan and North American E-Shop right after Steam banned it and they also banned Super Seducer from the switch as well). So looks like the game's future is pretty dead at this point and only ever got ported to Vita with a physical release.

It's nice to know the more things change, the more they stay the same
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