Civil War - Hollywood's fantasy about the fight against doland drumph?

[TVB]

The tl;dw seems to be Military bad, journos good. It really is clownworld when the egotistical "I want my Pulitzer" is somehow put as morally superior to people risking their life for a greater purpose.

Garland's lefty political sperging about how "le bad" the military is by calling them right-wing is like how a juggalo spergs out how magnets work. It's completely retarded writing and it's further proof that he cannot write to save his soul

 

[wtfNeedSignUp]

Garland's lefty political sperging about how "le bad" the military is by calling them right-wing is like how a juggalo spergs out how magnets work. It's completely retarded writing and it's further proof that he cannot write to save his soul

A good writer would have had the journalists job be an attempt of reconciliation between the sides to prevent further bloodshed. Which, while unrealistic, is at least somewhat laudable from a basic humanistic standpoint. But I don't think modern journos even acknowledge people in different social strata as humans, they want to say they were there when something important happened, on the convenient right side of history.

 

[Fatsuit Shinji]

A "good' writer wouldn't be using journalists as the protagonists in trying to stop the bloodshed. As journalists are the epitome of "it bleeds, it leads" and the more bloodshed is done to the other, the jovial the journalists will be in manipulating what they report to the viewers. Almost every other profession is believable in trying to stop the bloodshed. As all of them have at least one tangible reason to do so.

 

[TVB]

A "good' writer wouldn't be using journalists as the protagonists in trying to stop the bloodshed. As journalists are the epitome of "it bleeds, it leads" and the more bloodshed is done to the other, the jovial the journalists will be in manipulating what they report to the viewers. Almost every other profession is believable in trying to stop the bloodshed. As all of them have at least one tangible reason to do so.

This is what happens when nepotism is used as an influence for writing instead of actual logic or creativity

 

[Fascist Kirk]

I am 20 minutes in havn't read your posts yet, or finished the movie, but so far this is cringe as fuck ...... I see press faggots and all I think about is a troon in ukraine reporting on the war, and Gonzo Lira calling reporters system pigs in a hotel in Kiev ...... maybe it gets better but had to get this off my chest this is so cringe so far ..... 300 canadian lol that will be the day .....

The excurian is cool though to bad its a gas excursion a pig pos

Edit - Shit the movie

 

[TVB]

I'm still not watching it because I refuse to give any of my attention. A lot of mainstream media from the 2010s onward is just pandering lefty propaganda, and this shit is a minstrel show of lefty propaganda.

If you want a modern day political movie that doesn't rely on woke sperging, The Hunt is a way better movie, and that shit was written by the guy who wrote garbage like World War Z, Star Trek Into Darkness, Prometheus and the 2019 Watchmen miniseries. Process that for a moment.

 

[Caligura]

I am 20 minutes in havn't read your posts yet, or finished the movie, but so far this is cringe as fuck ...... I see press faggots and all I think about is a troon in ukraine reporting on the war, and Gonzo Lira calling reporters system pigs in a hotel in Kiev ...... maybe it gets better but had to get this off my chest this is so cringe so far ..... 300 canadian lol that will be the day .....

The excurian is cool though to bad its a gas excursion a pig pos

Edit - Shit the movie

The only good part of the song was its usage of Rocket USA in the beginning driving sequence (and Dream Baby Dream in the credits), imo. But even then could've used more carnage to really highlight how bad a civil war is aside from recreating the Highway of Death and maybe a few Gadsden (?) flags 'ominously' waving from a bombed out house.

 

[AWizard]

I thought it was an okay movie, much smaller scale than the trailers imply. More like a photojournalist's journey in a war torn country with America being the war-torn country. I like that it has annoyed milquetoast liberals that it isn't overtly against Trump.

 

[Super-Chevy454]

There's a interesting rant about that movie who might be worth to read.

https://www.americanthinker.com/blog/2024/05/when_fiction_turns_into_propaganda.html

https://archive.ph/2NcU4

https://ghostarchive.org/archive/vfoGv

May 12, 2024

When fiction turns into leftist propaganda​

By Greg Moo

Civil War is a movie in the same way a grenade is a source of light. Whatever else Civil War might be — a dystopian work of fiction, for one — it is foremost a psy-op exercise masked as a brave work of creative storytelling. Its bombastic violence is the shiny thing that distracts attention from the deeper purpose of the movie: to dissuade and demoralize any who would support Trump in 2024.

As with any psychological operation exercise, the movie’s mission is to change enemy behavior, shape the battlefield, and reduce the adversaries’ will to fight. For Alex Garland, the movie’s writer and director, Donald Trump and his right-wing supporters are the enemy. The battlefield is the 2024 election.
Garland, in his own words, is a man of the left — as in “I’m left-wing” and “[I’m] picking a fight.” He explains he is willing “to lie to get to what I think is truth.” (These quotes are from Canadian Tom Power’s interview with Briton Alex Garland, key to understanding Garland’s motivations and the movie’s psy-op methods.)

The movie is a shot over the bow of the right; it promises that if you elect Trump, civil war will happen. It is also a call to arms for the left; it promises that if Trump is elected, we will wash him away. (Know that neither Garland nor his movie has timid goals.) Woven within the shock and awe of the visual and audio assault on viewers’ senses are the many practiced ways Garland uses the subliminal and visual to embed his political message deep in the moviegoers’ emotions.
To make Garland’s psy-op techniques more concrete, consider this partial list of subliminal messages he inserts in the flow of the movie to influence viewers:

 

[wtfNeedSignUp]

There's a interesting rant about that movie who might be worth to read.
https://www.americanthinker.com/blog/2024/05/when_fiction_turns_into_propaganda.html https://archive.ph/2NcU4 https://ghostarchive.org/archive/vfoGv

I'll be honest, it's kinda shit opinion. If you argue that a film has a left wing bent then at least give examples instead of:
* The director is left wing.
* The movie does not show right wint talking points.
* Muh subliminal messages.

 

[Gender: Xenomorph]

Footage from Jan 6 was actually footage from antifa protest

 

[Ahriman]

I got 'round to watching it, to see what the fuss is about. Indeed, it felt pretty hollow, but I agree with other comments, it's made like this by design. In a way it's almost like "The Walking Dead" but instead of zombies, is just war all around and the protagonists are journoscum, dealing with the trials and tribulations of their environment.

I can understand the "jaded war photographer" character, the "adrenaline junkie photographer" and the "young, inexperienced but idealistic photographer". It all depends on how who snaps the pic, but even if that's the case, all this illustrates is that no matter how many pictures they shoot, they'll never get the full picture, if you catch my drift. I'd argue that that's why the whole thing is "all show and no tell".

Either way, I thought it was "very okay", but nowhere near as divisive as people make it out to be.

 

[Frank Hassle]

I'll be honest, it's kinda shit opinion. If you argue that a film has a left wing bent then at least give examples instead of:
* The director is left wing.
* The movie does not show right wint talking points.
* Muh subliminal messages.

What is your point of contention? I see examples in the article. Is your problem with the usage of "left wing"?

 

[Ahriman]

So I've read some comments on better movies than this, dealing with war photographers.

First one is "Blood Trail" (re-released in 2009 as "Shooting Robert King").

Director Richard Parry's gripping, in-the-trenches documentary chronicles the experiences of freelance war photographer Robert King, from his early years in Bosnia, to his groundbreaking work in Chechnya and contemporary coverage in Iraq.

Another one is "RESTREPO".

Restrepo is a 2010 American documentary film about the War in Afghanistan directed by British photojournalist Tim Hetherington and American journalist Sebastian Junger. It explores the year that Junger and Hetherington spent, on assignment for Vanity Fair, in Afghanistan's Korengal Valley, embedded with the Second Platoon, B Company, 2nd Battalion, 503rd Infantry Regiment, 173rd Airborne Brigade Combat Team of the U.S. Army.

For something a bit older, "The Killing Fields".

The Killing Fields is a 1984 British biographical drama film about the Khmer Rouge regime in Cambodia, which is based on the experiences of two journalists: Cambodian Dith Pran and American Sydney Schanberg. It was directed by Roland Joffé and produced by David Puttnam for his company Goldcrest Films. Sam Waterston stars as Schanberg, Haing S. Ngor as Pran, and John Malkovich as Al Rockoff.

Also, "Salvador".

Salvador is a 1986 American war drama film co-written and directed by Oliver Stone. It stars James Woods as Richard Boyle, alongside Jim Belushi, Michael Murphy and Elpidia Carrillo, with John Savage and Cynthia Gibb in supporting roles. Stone co-wrote the screenplay with Boyle.

Admittedly I haven't watched any of these, but it looks like a solid "proper war journalist kino" list and will be checking them out soon.

 

[umseriously]

I just watched the movie and it was pure kino. If you hate it, you just got filtered by it. This is a AU, so trying to retrofit Trump into it or asking why didn't the writers think of x, y, and z is retarded. In the film we don't even know the timeline of events that led to the fucking president getting overwhelmed and killed. It's so funny seeing people get their panties twisted over this movie. That Elden Ring movie is going to be good too since it's being made by the same guy who did this flick.

8/10.

Edit: after reading most of the replies, I'm convinced that most of you are just plain stupid. No curing that I suppose.