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On Chris's? I didn't see a real shit eating grin?
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Not excusing Chris, obviously, but we still don't have confirmation that she effectively has dementia or not. So, if not, that wouldn't add to the charges and, if his previous events with justice are anything to go by, his autism and usual treatment of a child trapped in an adults body will effectively prevent him from facing the full sentence.
Like if Chris was a normal person and would get, say, 5-10 years, kiddie autistic Chris might just get 1-2 at most. I'm completely fucking ignorant of american laws so I wonder how this will actually go, assuming he doesn't get another slap on the wrist despite the severity of the situation.
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That is LITERALLY the definition of a “Tard Card”.
What TF do you think “tard” means?
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Dementia or not, raping Barb is clearly elder abuse. That would almost certainly enhance the charges against him.
Here's what I expect will happen:
Heilberg: "My client's just a poor autistic transwoman struggling against the might of the Internet attempting to keep her down, down in a world of pain and despair and unhappiness. That's why s/he had to fuck her mom."
Jury: "Lol no mofo's going to lots and lots of prison"
He knows damn well that what he did was wrong, much like in all of the other legal escapades he's been through. The Tism won't save him this time, because the jury (or judge, if opts for the bench) is so unbelievably likely to see through that argument and cut directly to the chase of, 'so you raped your own mother.' Hell, he even makes a point of describing himself as high-functioning over the years, which severely weakens the ability of the defense to claim diminished capacity.
Here's the thing: while I don't necessarily disagree with you, Chris' hatred of anything that casts aspersions on either his sanity or mental capacity could very well sink that in court. If sequestering him in a tardhouse for the rest of his natural life was on the cards, I could very well see him completely melting down in court. Hell, even just sending him for a court-ordered evaluation could cause the same thing - and that could potentially be viewed as contempt.
Shit - just imagine what would happen if anyone in court were to describe him as being naïve. He'd go ballistard.
Maybe. Again, I see the point you're driving at, but there's enough in Chris' own actions to show that he planned this out. Diminished capacity is going to be difficult to argue with the sheer number of real-world activities and interactions he took part in on a regular basis.
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A wonderful fantasy. I can picture it in detail.
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We don’t have confirmation, and never will unless it is brought up in the charges or court record. .. but yes she unquestionably suffers from dementia or clear cognitive decline. If she doesn’t then the County has apparently kidnapped her with the help of the hospital system. You don’t have to be expressly told that there’s an elephant in the room with you to know there’s an elephant in the room. The actions by the County Authorities tell the story. The fact that she has not returned home and is seemingly still under skilled nursing care somewhere tells us she was found in a state incapable of caring for her own well-being. Either severe cognitive and physical decline, or some alarming medical condition. (Hmmm! I wonder what Baby Boy Chris doing his Waltz of Love did to her hips and pelvis?)
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Fun fact, incest isn't even illegal between consenting adults in New Jersey and Rhode Island, although they can't get married.
And Chris could still be guilty of rape even if Barb isn't demented, if she didn't consent. As in most civilized countries, it's generally considered just shy of murder in terms of severity.
That said, it wouldn't be the first time we've predicted doom for him only for him to turn out to be the Teflon Tard yet again.
The only way I really see him getting out of it, though, is if it turns out he's not charged with rape, or they plead him out to something less than incest, or at best, only convict him of the misdemeanor version of the crime. I'm pretty sure the next hearing on September 16 is when they'll add more charges if they're going to do that.
I'm also interested in whether it will start to sink in to that thick skull that this is actually serious. He's never spent this length of time in captivity and for the first time in his life, won't be able to just do as he wishes for an extended period of time.
I think he may be a more subdued Chris, but I'd really rather he tard rage to the point the jury and/or judge hate his guts enough to throw the book at him.
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Which is an excellent point, and one that explains why courts generally look upon rapists as having a high probability of re-offending post-release: almost without exception, they do.
The only real difficulty I see in convincing a judge or jury to put him away permanently: Barb's mental state. If she can't act as a witness in her own defense, all that can really be drawn on is Chris' apparent confession or IJL's recording of the call where he admits to screwing his mother. Even recorded confessions tend to be looked at as potentially suspect by defense attorneys, largely because (much like a written one), there's no good way to prove that it's accurate, or wasn't made under duress.
Obviously that would need to be proven, but mentioning it could introduce just enough doubt in a juror's mind to influence a decision.
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Well, one hopes the evidence. What I'd hope the prosecution does is, if it's available in Virginia, and Barb isn't a complete gibbering vegetable, is move for something called a deposition de bene esse, which allows cross examination and confrontation in a deposition, and can be introduced at trial.
This is a fairly rare procedure usually done when a key witness is expected to die before trial or otherwise be unavailable, while still preserving the right to cross examination.
I'm not sure if it's available in criminal cases in Virginia or if this case has the circumstances that a court would see as justifying it. Or for that matter if Barb even remembers what Chris did to her.
We haven't really seen her on video but it's possible what Chris did to her broke her mind.
Note, Virginia does appear to have such a procedure but I'm not sure of the exact circumstances that could invoke it, i.e. does death have to be known to be imminent? That's usually where I've seen it, in civil cases where, for instance, someone has cancer and is not expected to live until trial, often due to the alleged wrongdoing by the defendant such as exposure to industrial chemicals.
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Chris is very attached to his “high functioning” status and likes to think of himself as a totally normal adult who juuust has a touch of the tism though.
For that reason alone, I’d reckon he resist any performance in court, and would probably go into “Harummph”-mode if his lawyer would go this route.
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ive wanted to smack his stupid face since high school as hes always walked around with that smug '' im so perfect'' face and shit on everyone else, what still gets me to this day is why he never got his ass beat in school, most people who act like he did or even do half the shit Chris did, got bullied and beat up left and right, how Chris managed to also escape that all through school, ill never understand because most people who are even half as big of an ass as he was, get handled eventually, and people who do even a fraction of the dumb shit he did, get whats coming, but no, not Chris.
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That would be the Teflon Tard for ya.
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Drowning a kid is harder than giving him therapy, teaching the kid something, or just ploping him in front of the TV.
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Real answer is that both of them clung desperately to the idea/dream of Chris being their one good child; the redemption in light of how their earlier marriages failed and their kids alienating them. Something which Chris could never be given his obvious handicaps. He ended up being their greatest failure, sin and burden - eventually they just stopped giving a shit.
Fate is hilariously cruel like that.
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I think he's very attached to not being in prison too. I guess we'll see what's more important to him. I think it will depend on his level of sheer terror if he figures out this isn't one of those things that just goes away.
Just the smug grin on his jail mugshot shows he wasn't taking it seriously back on August 2. If he's been tard slapped a couple times before September 16, he might be taking things more seriously. I don't think anyone's going to rape or murder him, but his attitude could get him smacked. My bet would be if he ends up with a cellmate and fucks up the shared living quarters by being a slob.
I've heard that's a major cause of bitchslappings in prison.
That and just the general fact he is obviously weak and fat and incredibly obnoxious and annoying in close quarters with people who can't get away from him. The one thing people in jail generally share, more than psychopathy or pure violence, is a serious lack of impulse control and someone as obnoxious as Chris would tend to bring those impulses out. They're probably not going to attack him for just no reason at all but Chris is really good at coming up with reasons you want to smack the shit out of him, and if that's in your repertoire already, he's exactly the kind of guy to bring it out.
That's still what is my main source of doubt. I am not sure what over a month behind bars is going to do to him. He could just be completely oblivious even then. I'm not sure how far gone he is. This merge shit has really done a number on him. Honestly as atrocious as Isabella is as a human, I think the Idea Tards had more to do with this than her.
And then there was that incredibly fucked up phase where Barb insisted on spooning with him. It's almost painfully inevitable in retrospect that this would happen. I certainly didn't see this coming. Not that Chris isn't obviously enough of a pervert to do this but I didn't think he would actually do something as horrifically criminal.
By comparison, Nick Bate looked like exactly the disgusting freak he is and it was completely unsurprising he'd rape a child. It would be almost surprising if he didn't.
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Playing the tard card is chris himself trying to trick the court, the court finding him unfit to stand trial isn't the tard card.
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Not if you attach enough weight and live in a coastal region with deep water. Or so I've benn told...
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agreed ! and to add the icing on the cake, chris has been inappropriate with barb before, spooning, touching inappropriately,.. plus he bought a damn book to help him go that next step with her ! chris is full on aware and hes full on guilty. this was planned and it was worked up to so to speak.
yes ! i would buy a bus ticket to go see this trial, i really hope its open as in they allow audience, or at least i hope its recorded so we can hear and hopefully see what goes on and how much Chris tantrums out .
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Remember when he went on an extended spiel about how he changed a while back, and how he was a good person. I remember telling everyone that people who tell others that they're such good and virtuous people are usually just deviants who need to be ostracized into homelessness and death.....but nobody listened.
It's the new 9/11 for Barb's chyna.
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