Chainsaw Man - Peak Fiction in the making

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I was thinking about how I would write the ending if I didn't want to invalidate the entire series as far back as Part 1.

  • The fight goes the same as it does originally until the plague of insects. At that point, Denji/Pochita realizes how bad the bed has been shat and coughs up Death.
  • Little D finally stops being a fraud and drains a year of life from literally everything, to wipe out the bugs, with massive collateral damage.
  • Little D is actually guilty about this -- she followed through on the prophecy and personally caused the apocalypse despite her efforts. Yoru is stunned.
  • Little D has Denji and Asa help fake her death so she can go back to screwing around anonymously. Possibly involving a bribe of reviving Nayuta, if we want the fan service.
  • Denji dicks down Yoru on-panel as celebration.
  • For killing the Death Devil, Denji and Asa are showered with as much fame and fortune as possible with the world this fucked.
  • Having lost her rematch against Pochita, Yoru gets annoyed sitting around with his host all the time, and gets out of Asa's head. She attempts to be nice by leaving Asa the firearms.
  • End with our leads on top of the world, knowing they don't deserve it, and setting up Real-Fami to be an actually competent main antagonist if there's a Part 3.
 
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Maybe I'm retarded, but I don't remember Fujimoto being great at endings, even back in Fire Punch as much as I love that whole story.
 
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Maybe I'm retarded, but I don't remember Fujimoto being great at endings, even back in Fire Punch as much as I love that whole story.
Fire Punch is neat it went downhill after Togata died, but like CSM it was like Fujimoto ran out of steam and just began rushing things and developments that should've had a lot more air to breathe in order to finally end it, substituting it with constant action, including weak payoff fights (Sun vs Agni, Denji vs Yoru). FP's ending felt a lot better than this one though, even if it's a lot more fatalistic than CSM and is preceded by Agni becoming a retard because reasons.
He seriously needs to stick to one-shots, he excels in the short-and-sweet department.
 
Bnha ending wasnt anything special but its honestly impressive how hori made an epilogue to bnha that fulfilled most of the wishes of the common viewer and gave the series a proper happy end that made enough sense and wasnt hastily skipped trough, especially when comparing it with most of its contemporaries.
Maybe a bit tooo unrealistically happy of an ending but it fits the fairly lighthearted tone of the rest of the series, its not like it was a constant death and rape fest.
 
Probably not the case here, but I never understood why manga distributers don't commission for epilogue comics/novels if the fan reaction is negative enough. A bad ending massively reduces any chance of new readers or previous readers buying merch.
 
Imagine if Fujimoto pulled a Prison School and announced he'll release a chapter on April 1st that'll totally fix everything, only for it to be a huge shitpost
 
Bnha ending wasnt anything special but its honestly impressive how hori made an epilogue to bnha that fulfilled most of the wishes of the common viewer and gave the series a proper happy end that made enough sense and wasnt hastily skipped trough, especially when comparing it with most of its contemporaries.
Maybe a bit tooo unrealistically happy of an ending but it fits the fairly lighthearted tone of the rest of the series, its not like it was a constant death and rape fest.
MHA gets a lot of unnecesary hate because of the gay fanbase but it has solid worldbuilding (with some missed potential) and characters like Todoroki (and Endeavor), All Might, LoV members, are well written. Also the way MHA handles heroism is pretty good too, it does potray heroes as flawed individuals (Endeavor's past, corruption within HPSC) but it doesn't try to paint the villains as good or reasonable either.

Also its ending has a proper conclusion though pretty flawed, it would been better if Deku had decided to remain as a teacher or built the suit himself instead being spoon fed by All Might AGAIN (the first time was All Might giving him OFA, the second time was him giving Deku the suit built by the girl from the 1st MHA movie)

Aside from the ending and the fanbase, MHA is pretty decent (7.5/10).

Chainsaw Man and Jujutsu Kaisen should've been like 400-500+ chapters long, the "New Gen Big 3" is just all potential and great ideas but weak execution. Very sad!

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Probably not the case here, but I never understood why manga distributers don't commission for epilogue comics/novels if the fan reaction is negative enough. A bad ending massively reduces any chance of new readers or previous readers buying merch.
I'm guessing it's more of a cultural thing.

Band-aid epilogues or ret-cons are usually made for corporate IP's.

Mangas and the culture around it are very much author based, so much that they call mangakas "Sensei", which is for "master" rather than "teacher", so if the mangaka isn't interested in doing more, then its left like that... at least in manga, because we've seen adaptations that vastly diverge from original mangas, a lot of 'em due to public reception.

Of course there are issues like Toriyama's contract that pressured him into continuing DBZ after the Cell Saga, and now Dragon Ball is more of a corporate IP rather than a authorial work.

But, in general, the public in Japan wants the "sensei" vision as it is, warts and all.

Problem is... Being a mangaka fucking sucks, burnouts are so bad that is a guaranteed hospital visit every couple of months, it is a sacrifice that not even the self-destructive japanese Work ethic can sustain. And even if you reach success, due to the demands of the job, you are bound to not enjoy any of the fruits of you labour. Masashi Kishimoto, the creator of Naruto, said it took him 15 years after he got married to get a proper honey-moon with his wife, Kentaro Miura, author of Berserker, was very vocal about being miserable as a manga author, and regreted the fact that he never married or had children because he gave his life to a manga that now he will never finish himself.

So, it's no wonder that this new generation of mangakas are bailing when they reach success and money.

As a example, Demon Slayers had a rather cut short run, with a lot of climatic fights just being smooshed nto one big arc. It was said that the author left Japan and moved to the U.S, regardless, we haven't heard any new works from her in 5 years.

Gege Akutami will never draw manga again other than just doing storyboards, and I doubt Fujimoto will ever do any long term serializations, he will stick with one and done short stories volumes.

The era of mangakas like George Morikawa, the author of Hajime no Ippo, guys who devote their entire lives over a singular work to the edification of a icon, is over, Morikawa is a dieing breed.

Not that it is a bad thing, I don't want to see any poor bastard chained to a desk drawing till theirs bodies give out, but it is a shame that this sense of legacy seems to be lost in modern manga, if I'm being a bit too romantic about it.
 
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Sorry, gonna double post like a fag, but I had to lol here.

I've never read Rent a girlfriend, but it's infamy is all-reaching.

But this is a curious case of a author not wanting to kill the golden goose. I can remember where I saw it, but someone posted a interview with this author saying something of the lines "this series sells well and I have a new house to pay, so I'm not gonna stop untill they tell me to stop".

And I can't blame the guy, getting a second hit series is like having to win the lottery twice. Kishimoto, even with all the Naruto fame, his new series bombed so hard it became legendary. Sonow he is just a co-author on Boruto, a legacy sequel that no one really likes.
 
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Sorry, gonna double post like a fag, but I had to lol here.

I've never read Rent a girlfriend, but it's infamy is all-reaching.

But this is a curious case of a author not wanting to kill the golden goose. I can remember where I saw it, but someone posted a interview with this author saying something of the lines "this series sells well and I have a new house to pay, so I'm not gonna stop untill they tell me to stop".

And I can't blame the guy, getting a second hit series is like having to win the lottery twice. Kishimoto, even with all the Naruto fame, and a series bomb so hard it became legendary that now he is just a co-author on Boruto, a legacy sequel that no one really likes.
Don't worry, I've never eead it either and probably never will (I'm not into romance manga)

I agree with you and I don't have anything useful to add to this conversation but I want to add the fact that one of the main reasons RaGF hasnt ended is because the author is obsessed with the main girlfriend in the manga lol

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Now I heard that the main character got rejected by the girlfriend made me think that the MC got cucked by his own creator lol (I hope his wife and child arent aware of his Xitter)
 
Not that it is a bad thing, I don't want to see any poor bastard chained to a desk drawing till theirs bodies give out, but it is a shame that this sense of legacy seems to be lost in modern manga, if I'm being a bit too romantic about it.

It's for the best. A lot of the issues with older manga is that they had to fill print periodicals consistently. It led to a lot of really weak storytelling and filler episodes.

With digital distribution and the ability to self pub, it looks like they're able to finish a story when the story is done. I'd rather read 40 or 60 good chapters instead of 250+ shit ones. I would go even so far as to say there is more genuinely good manga now than before, a lot of the older shit was rough.
 
It's for the best. A lot of the issues with older manga is that they had to fill print periodicals consistently. It led to a lot of really weak storytelling and filler episodes.

With digital distribution and the ability to self pub, it looks like they're able to finish a story when the story is done. I'd rather read 40 or 60 good chapters instead of 250+ shit ones. I would go even so far as to say there is more genuinely good manga now than before, a lot of the older shit was rough.
I think its more of a case of mountains and depressions vs. hills and valleys.

Back in the old days, there were was A LOT of shit, but there shined through some absolute gems that stand on pedestals to this very day due to their quality and execution. We get a lot less shit now, but we also don't see a lot of truly great Manga as everything has been very "standardized". We get a consistently "good" product with very very rare great ones as a result.
 
So, was a little late to reading the ending. Mixed feelings, but leaning to positive. It pulled an EVA Rebuild like I was afraid of... But I kind of like it this time? Maybe it's that we got Power rather than what Anno did.

Do we have any confirmation if this is a series finale or season finale yet?
 
Probably not the case here, but I never understood why manga distributers don't commission for epilogue comics/novels if the fan reaction is negative enough. A bad ending massively reduces any chance of new readers or previous readers buying merch.
CLAMP works get tons of merch/fashion collabs to this day that always sell-out and all of their series have awful endings or just don't end period, so this just isn't true. Why put in effort creating a "better ending" when you could create a better series instead?
 
Naruto and Ichigo scream from offscreen

"Our endings all sucked too but at least we got to fuck our Love interests unlike you two losers"
for different reasons
one was bogged down by an absolute asspull of a final....
actually, they both had the same reason as to why they sucked
it's just bleach's final fight was offscreen
and naruto at least ended with another fight between naruto and sasuke
 
for differnet reasons
one was bogged down by an absolute asspull of a final....
actually, they both had the same reason as to why they sucked
it's just bleach's final fight was offscreen
and naruto at least ended with another fight between naruto and sasuke
Well Bleach had lost the plot long before the final fight.

Naruto...that last arc man that last war arc got so bad but at least Naruto himself never cucked out and was always kinda cool.

"Hey Nine tails, why ain't you cool like the 8 Tails"
"FUCK YOU LOSER I AM HATE INCARNATE"
"Dude just some some weed with me, the 8 tails and Killa B. I promise it will take the edge off"
"Fine..."
 
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