Chainsaw Man - Peak Fiction in the making

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Bnuny said:
Little D finally stops being a fraud
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I do agree a better ending would involve some sort of sequence of events in which Death and/or the other primordial devil being like "yo you are fucking it up for us devils time to stop". Pochita could be the King Devil for all they cared but they enjoy humans suffering and no more additional humans being able to stay suffering (because the current ones are just being eaten/kinda dying constantly and cannot otherwise reprodue) would be a no-go.

There's a balance to be reached in which Denji was going overboard with the desire to be the Main Character that was likely too hard to fix due to...you know...him being the main character. Yeah you gotta Will to Power your life and stuff....AND everyone else around you having to suffer horribly for it is a big problem in itself.

Personally while I enjoyed the story, I was expecting Arc2 to be an exploration of a failffemale, much like Arc 1 was about being a failmale. I guess people find truly autistic and deranged females to be too cringe or Fujimoto ran out of ideas? (things were vaguely pointing to that dirction until the Intinifty Aquarium arc then it kinda stopped).
 
First Tuesday with no new Chainsawman Chapter... I mean he usually took breaks every couple of chapters, but still... ah well back to Dai Dark.

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Having thought on it, I actually would have liked this exact same ending had it come at a different point in the manga. But as it is now, dood you could have at least finished the fight, maybe have the entire world get destroyed in the conflict, and then do the ending once Denji achieves sex and realizes he’s not satisfied with it.
 
VeteranOfTheRetardWars said:
Having thought on it, I actually would have liked this exact same ending had it come at a different point in the manga. But as it is now, dood you could have at least finished the fight, maybe have the entire world get destroyed in the conflict, and then do the ending once Denji achieves sex and realizes he’s not satisfied with it.
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He's getting that Powerussy now he's fine.
 
Blazeuser56 said:
MHA gets a lot of unnecesary hate because of the gay fanbase but it has solid worldbuilding (with some missed potential) and characters like Todoroki (and Endeavor), All Might, LoV members, are well written. Also the way MHA handles heroism is pretty good too, it does potray heroes as flawed individuals (Endeavor's past, corruption within HPSC) but it doesn't try to paint the villains as good or reasonable either.

Also its ending has a proper conclusion though pretty flawed, it would been better if Deku had decided to remain as a teacher or built the suit himself instead being spoon fed by All Might AGAIN (the first time was All Might giving him OFA, the second time was him giving Deku the suit built by the girl from the 1st MHA movie)

Aside from the ending and the fanbase, MHA is pretty decent (7.5/10).

Chainsaw Man and Jujutsu Kaisen should've been like 400-500+ chapters long, the "New Gen Big 3" is just all potential and great ideas but weak execution. Very sad!

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Gal ★ Cleaning solos sadly.
 
VeteranOfTheRetardWars said:
Having thought on it, I actually would have liked this exact same ending had it come at a different point in the manga. But as it is now, dood you could have at least finished the fight, maybe have the entire world get destroyed in the conflict, and then do the ending once Denji achieves sex and realizes he’s not satisfied with it.
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I think Part 2, the family he's had with Nayuta especially, has shown enough that Denji is never satisfied in the long run so him staying blueballed doesn't bother me that much.
But the timing really was way too abrupt and I wish the ending leaned just a bit more into characters carrying over some of their previous lifes, on top of alluding to a few characters that weren't in the ending, such as Yoru or Death.
Yoru might be more difficult to include in a way that doesn't hint at future problems but something about Death sitting around somewhere, enjoying her favorite food(s) should be no big deal.
 
Sneak 'n' Snore said:
has shown enough that Denji is never satisfied in the long run
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What kind of bullshit is this? It's not like he had some amazing life in the start of Part 2. He got some stability and a pseudo sister but had no friends, no education and no real future.

Maybe if there was a decade time skip it would have worked, showing Denji becoming a deadbeat gambler, but it takes part almost immediately after part 1.

Part 2 is the Star Wars TLJ of manga. A lot of cope trying to justify depth in a story that amounted to a huge waste of time.
 
wtfNeedSignUp said:
Part 2 is the Star Wars TLJ of manga. A lot of cope trying to justify depth in a story that amounted to a huge waste of time.
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I wouldn't go that far, there is some degree of quality to Part 2 and the its creator clearly has actual talent even if he absolutely shit the bed at the end.

TLJ was just shit from beginning to end created by a talentless hack.
 
wtfNeedSignUp said:
What kind of bullshit is this? It's not like he had some amazing life in the start of Part 2. He got some stability and a pseudo sister but had no friends, no education and no real future.

Maybe if there was a decade time skip it would have worked, showing Denji becoming a deadbeat gambler, but it takes part almost immediately after part 1.

Part 2 is the Star Wars TLJ of manga. A lot of cope trying to justify depth in a story that amounted to a huge waste of time.
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It is better than what he's been through and Denji is not the type to worry about education or his future.
I have no qualms in admitting that I'm coping here but I like to look in some purpose behind a story I was invested in and enjoyed following along, even if the ending was shoddy.
 
Chilson said:
I wouldn't go that far, there is some degree of quality to Part 2 and the its creator clearly has actual talent even if he absolutely shit the bed at the end.

TLJ was just shit from beginning to end created by a talentless hack.
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The most I can say is that CM is more original and is Reddit edgy rather than corporate appeal, but the second part shares a lot of sins with TLJ:
* Killing characters merely for shock factor.
* Nothing changing after the previous part ending.
* Reversing character development.
* Entire plot lines and characters being a waste of time.
 
SpiderBitch said:
This Denji seems more mature/sober so he might actually not go for it on account of, well, the whole her not wiping thing. Or maybe he did try to go for it and the trauma of it was the true cause of his spontaneous offscreen character development.
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He still has only one testicle in this timeline so he likely has a wrecked sex drive. nuDenji is one kick away from being a eunuch and two snips away from being a discord mod.
 
Bolo_the_Second said:
Kentaro Miura, author of Berserker, was very vocal about being miserable as a manga author, and regreted the fact that he never married or had children
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Thank god.

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Anyway. The Jap government should lock Fujimoto inside his crusty ass apartment and force him to write more chainsaw/dog/whatever man shenanigans.
 
Jace on ice said:
If I remember correctly Fire Punch also had an extremely abrupt "everyone dies" ending that prematurely terminated all existing plotlines with no resolution.

Landing the ending seems to be a reoccurring problem for Fujimoto.
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You remembered wrong. Fire Punch is the only reason people had faith in Fujimoto to begin with, solid 8/10 ending for a manga.
 
VeteranOfTheRetardWars said:
Having thought on it, I actually would have liked this exact same ending had it come at a different point in the manga. But as it is now, dood you could have at least finished the fight, maybe have the entire world get destroyed in the conflict, and then do the ending once Denji achieves sex and realizes he’s not satisfied with it.
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This is my feelings on this ending too. It's way too abrupt and out of nowhere.

We're at what is supposed to be the big final fight, and then it just ends with it being implied Denji got 1 shot by a literal who demon (and that would mean Yoru got equally fucking wrecked) and Pochita just going "nah fam, you're not developing enough as a character, or you'll never actually be happy or something, idk, peace" and invalidating all the events of the series. You can't pull the "Denji will never be happy/satisfied" shit when as WTF said:

wtfNeedSignUp said:
What kind of bullshit is this? It's not like he had some amazing life in the start of Part 2. He got some stability and a pseudo sister but had no friends, no education and no real future.

Maybe if there was a decade time skip it would have worked, showing Denji becoming a deadbeat gambler, but it takes part almost immediately after part 1.
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If we had more time to see this actually be the reality for Denji the ending would feel a lot more impactful. As it stands now, it just genuinely feels like Fujimoto wanted to get high off huffing his own farts aping the living shit out of The Big Lebowski.
 
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