Captain Marvel - Literally, from "her" to "hero"

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Are you actually going to watch this flick?

  • No

    Votes: 74 17.0%
  • Fuck, no

    Votes: 177 40.7%
  • Not in cinemas

    Votes: 81 18.6%
  • Yes

    Votes: 40 9.2%
  • (((Yes)))

    Votes: 20 4.6%
  • Twitter told me I must, I can't say no, you white-cis-sexist-oppresive scum!

    Votes: 43 9.9%

  • Total voters
    435
I've never watched an episode of Carpool Karoke and I don't think I'm about to start.

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Holy shit, if I had a passenger sitting next to me with that expression, I'd check to make sure she was still breathing.

It's the big feminist pipe dream of WOMEN SUPPORTING WOMEN ALWAYS, when in reality women can be really cruel to each other. It's not surprising that a man believes those though, because of being on the outside observing womanhood. People trooning out tend to think it'll initiate them into some kind of magical sisterhood because that's how being a woman works to them.
I blame not having enough siblings. Anyone with multiple sisters has seen how women can interact with each other when the gloves come off, and been disabused of these illusions forever.
 
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Wasn't she supposed to have put on muscle for this role? Why she look so weak and flabby? No muscle there. Lazy slug.

Because she lied, it was just a publicity stunt.

Hollywood is a lie. Since Wolverine is never completely naked in the films, Hugh Jackman skipped leg day every fucking day, His shape is ridiculous, his upperbody is buffed but he has chicken legs. These actors don't give a shit, they only want to look good in camera, with perfect lighting and precise angles.
 
Writing a character like that is far too risky for Disney/Marvel (which is weird as all hell when Infinity War taking risks paid off)
Infinity War took no risks. The snap was predictable and it's just as predictable that everyone minus maybe Ironman and Captain America will come back to life in the next one.
 
So I've been catching up on the comics especially considering they altered Carol's origin and goddamn, I hope the movie or any future adaptation never uses this.

Original: Carol Danvers was an Air Force pilot and love interest of a guy named Walt Lawson, actually Captain Mar-Vell of the Kree who was sent to infiltrate human society to prepare an invasion. Mar-Vell eventually ends up disobeying orders for the sake of mankind. During a later adventure, one of Marv's enemies kidnaps Carol and threatens him with some superweapon. The resulting explosion from destroying the superweapon had the unintentional effect of Carol gaining Mar-Vell's powers too.

Current: Mar-Vell had little to do with Carol's powers. Her mother was an earlier Kree soldier sent to Earth named Mari-Ell. Her father found this woman while out on his boat who he ends up romancing and having a kid with. The incident with Mar-Vell only awakened the abilities she didn't realize she had the whole time. The best part? Carol isn't even her birth name anymore and you won't believe me when I tell you what it really is now.

It's Car-Ell. I'm not bullshitting you.

They can't fix anything , can they? Carol Danvers has always had what is essentially the same name as Kara Danvers (i,e: Supergirl, who was created 9 years earlier), and when they finally decide it's time to change the name they go with Car-Ell. Doesn't sound like Kal-El (i.e: Superman) now, does it?

Infinity War took no risks. The snap was predictable and it's just as predictable that everyone minus maybe Ironman and Captain America will come back to life in the next one.

That's why my expectations for Endgame aren't really high: you know they're coming back save for maybe the ones with expiring contracts. Black Panther and Dr Strange sequels were confirmed before the snap, so why would anyone believe the result will be any different to a resurrection?

I want some level of unpredictability to the film to keep me hooked on the possibility of something bad coming out of it, but that's probably not going to happen. I can't even watch it for Thanos since they turned him into, "Misguided-dad-who-would-be-fine-to-have-a-drink-with-if-he-wasn't-destroying-the-world" instead of keeping him as the egomaniacal genocidal psychopath that he's meant to be.

Proper Darkseid movie never ever :(
 
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Something to contemplate: I just realized that the embargo on reviews for Captain Marvel lifted fairly late at only a few days before release whereas the embargo on Black Panther lifted a couple weeks before its release. Perhaps more evidence that Marvel and Disney were not as confident in CM behind the scenes? It should be worth noting that I heard that WB is showing Shazam to critics right now. Their embargo is still in place, but I wonder if they will lift it earlier because they appear very confident in their product.
 
That's why my expectations for Endgame aren't really high: you know they're coming back save for maybe the ones with expiring contracts. Black Panther and Dr Strange sequels were confirmed before the snap, so why would anyone believe the result will be any different to a resurrection?

I sympathize, but this is one area where I can't agree since my understanding is colored by the original comic. I know how it ends, so my brain keeps everything on the rails, as it were. Even more to the point, western comics have been a complete treadmill since what, the Silver Age? Yeah, this was never going to end with anything other than the Snap getting undone somehow.

I want some level of unpredictability to the film to keep me hooked on the possibility of something bad coming out of it, but that's probably not going to happen. I can't even watch it for Thanos since they turned him into, "Misguided-dad-who-would-be-fine-to-have-a-drink-with-if-he-wasn't-destroying-the-world" instead of keeping him as the egomaniacal genocidal psychopath that he's meant to be.

I think that was a necessary change, since Ego and Dormammu are as close as they got to the cosmic stuff they have running around in the Marvel U. No Celestials, no Eternity, no Uatu, no Living Tribunal (except for that one offhand mention in Dr. Strange.) Certainly nothing solid enough where the anthropomorphic personification of Death would fit. So they basically turned him into a less douchy Ozymandias, which I don't hate.
Though it will be interesting to see how he reacts when the tables turn. I think this version of Thanos would accept defeat and death with grace, but, on the other hand, would probably wig out over the Snap getting undone. We shall see, I guess.
 
That'll teach me not to post when I have a drafted post aready in the thread that I forgot about, my point wasn't to say Infinity War broke new ground with risky storytelling. They would never make Captain Marvel a mess as a person because it isn't safe, especially when you take woke marketing and journalism into account. Reviewers would blast it for how dare they portray the FIRST EVER SOLO FEMALE SUPERHERO as someone who has lots of problems. How are we supposed to show little girls that they can be superheroes too (except not because that stuff isn't real) if their "role model" is a recovering alcoholic?

In their fear that the comic version of Carol would be unrelatable and unlikeable, they've…made her perhaps even more so unlikeable. People can relate to personal struggle. They can't relate to WOKE UNTOUCHABLE WAMEN.

Edit 2: Shuri from Black Panther was explictly meant to be a role model for young black girls, to show you how they implement those things.
 
They apparently showed a clip of an early scene from Endgame at a shareholders meeting. This dude on Twitter was there and gave a more detailed rundown of what was shown:

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The Captain Marvel stuff makes me wince, but from the way the scene sounds, I think:

...the entire team is actually flying off to get the crap beat out of them.
 

Look at that like-to-dislike ratio ... lol.

She is seriously a stuck up bitch in this video. No hyperbole. These Wired videos typically come across as pretty light hearted and fun. Larson comes across as the type of person you're consistently uncomfortable around.
 
CapM says they have her this time.
Oh no. Oh god, no. Endgame is just shameless marketing for the upcoming CaptainMarvel Cinematic Universe. It is not a real movie meant as a capstone to the last decade of stroytelling like everyone was expecting.

It's "what if our She-ro had been there to stop the snap?" Find out over the next seven films.
 
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