Canada is a failed state

[AngryAboutInternets]

Why live like a slave in Japan, one of the most autistic countries on Earth, when you could live like royalty in Vietnam or Mexico?

Frankly, I don't think it's that easy to get a job in either unless you're already there with a work permit. I tried to do exactly that (use services/social media to get a job in a second/third world country and then get a visa and move) and nobody gave a single solitary shit. I was even willing to accept local salaries, not giga-inflated first world ones, and I could barely get more than a "ask someone else, we wish you luck". Most countries don't just accept immigrants near-automatically like ours does, you need to have a specialized skill to get a job to get in, or already be legal to get a job. Of course you can always just break the law, most of them don't have police that are nearly well-equipped enough to hunt down every cracker overstaying a visa, but after seeing what that did to Canada I don't think anyone with a sense of ethics or morality would want to do it.

 

[Nol 2]

Most Canadians don't know about what goes on. Our largest media organization is the government run CBC. Which is notorious for nepotism and controls a lot of our media narrative. The Canadian establishment uses American politics as reality tv for the boomer crowd and the millennial crowd that still thinks it's 2003. Questioning the Liberal party or any opposition to the direction the government takes routinely gets dismissed as "American."

With Quebec, in order to keep Quebec in Confederation. The rest of the country has become a vassal state of Quebec and the Quebec establishment. We call them the Laurentian elites. You can't get to any level of prominence in the Federal Government unless you have French, and it is fairly well known that the French test as administered by the Federal Civil Service is much, much more difficult than the English test. Which is designed to keep the English out of power. Quebec itself is a basketcase in its politics where some of them are still seething about the time the Premier BTFOd the commies and committed the grave sin of spending tax dollars outside of Montreal and Quebec City(I am aware it is more complex than that, but not much more).

Canada is proof that a multicultural nation cannot exist. It's always been French vs English and we've always hated each other. Quebec should be an independent nation just so we can get the fuck away from them.

Yes, I am well aware of how it works. I have lived incredibly close to the border most of my life and married a Canadian woman.

It should be noted, you have it backwards around the fed gov't stuff: If you know french, the bar is massively lower. Said wife currently works for the feds and has maxed out on her career due to not knowing French. As per her, you don't need nearly the same level of qualifications in the federal government if you are a francophone.

I personally disagree with your viewpoint that a multicultural nation can not exist, however I agree that how Canada does it can never work in practice. You can have a whole bunch of cultures, as long as they assimilate and work towards the national culture. The "cultural mosiac" as Canada likes to call it can never work, because for a nation to work, you all need to work together.

A lot of the problems are that you guys never got past feeling bad for your history: You tried your best to genocide the french on the plains of abraham, and you tried to get rid of the First nations. You didn't, and you feel guilty about it, which lets them both run roughshod over the country for their own ends for all time.

 

[Fig Kommandant]

The rest of the country has become a vassal state of Quebec and the Quebec establishment. We call them the Laurentian elites

While I can appreciate the anglo perspective on this, that's inacurate. The UK did make some early concessions with the French speaking colonials after the Seven Year War, but the Laurentian elites, which came way later, are a bicultural (read: rootless) mercantile social class, they do not represent the interests of Quebec or the rest of Canada. They serve only themselves and their monied interests.

 

[kawaiikat420]

Frankly, I don't think it's that easy to get a job in either unless you're already there with a work permit.

It really depends on your network, education, and background. Cold calls don't work well these days.

There's a difference between being an expatriate and being an immigrant. I'm an expatriate because I'm not looking to gain citizenship in the countries in which I work; I'm only here for the purpose of money and career. The end goal is to make enough money to settle into an immigrant-friendly country and to live comfortably there. The expatriate lifestyle can be difficult and it's not for everyone, but personally: being a foreigner temporarily living in the developing world is a lot more appealing and a lot easier than being a broke in Canada.

 

[WanderingWalker]

Vietnam or Mexico

I mean, you kinda named why I'd be hesitant right there
Sure the Jap's are autistic AF, but they're also not beaners (if I have to share a society with them I'd prefer to continue doing so while in my own country like I already do) or jungle congs

I'd also prefer not to take my chances with ending up being beheaded by some cartel pusher looking to vent his racial frustrations on the local cracker, or increasing my risk of being spooked away by chink bogeyman for my anti CCP rhetoric higher than it already is in Canada by putting myself in even closer range

Don't get me wrong, I do understand where you're coming from on the benefits of choosing a developing country, that's why I mentioned Venezuela as possibility, though only if they do actually manage to get back on track to being a functioning society again with Maduro out of the way

Additionally there's no way I'd go to Japan without first having a hefty nest egg set up to keep me coasting off the weakness of the yen, it would always be a later in life thing if I ever did try to get citizenship there

 

[OutInTheRain]

It should be noted, you have it backwards around the fed gov't stuff: If you know french, the bar is massively lower. Said wife currently works for the feds and has maxed out on her career due to not knowing French. As per her, you don't need nearly the same level of qualifications in the federal government if you are a francophone.

I should have clarified the Federal Government has a rating system for language competency for English and French. They call it a language profile. The test for an English profile for a French speaker is very easy. The test to get a French profile, is very difficult. Language profiles are key to getting promoted and they hand them out like candy to French speakers.

A lot of the problems are that you guys never got past feeling bad for your history: You tried your best to genocide the french on the plains of abraham, and you tried to get rid of the First nations. You didn't, and you feel guilty about it, which lets them both run roughshod over the country for their own ends for all time.

With the French it wasn't even that. Montreal became the main port into Canada over Halifax. As such everyone coming from Europe started in Montreal. This led to large Irish and Italian populations in the city. The idea was to put them on the train to Toronto and then drop them into the prairies so America wouldn't take it. However a hundred acres in the frozen wasteland of Saskatchewan didn't exactly gel with the pale potato people and Mediterranean Spghetti makers and Mafiosos. So they stuck around in Montreal.

Which got the French all up in arms and would have regular language riots and scream about being "The White Niggers of Canada." Which is an actual book, it's a good read. No one feels guilty about the French. Most Canadians loathe the French. There is nothing like dealing with an argumentative goblin of a man who will fight you on literally anything and everything displaying the French people's inherent disagreeableness.

 

[Fig Kommandant]

This led to large Irish and Italian

A funny thing about those, is that the Irish who spoke English did assimilate massively into Quebec society while the Italians were split and assimilated into Anglo-Quebec society.

"The White Niggers of Canada." Which is an actual book

Let us remember:

 

[Sweeter and Savoury]

As someone whose lived in Jap land I tell you to stay away.

It's expensive as all fuck, like crazy
The work culture is sick and will kill you.
You will never understand the Jap cultural rules, shit is so wack. No really.
You will NEVER fit in, no matter how good your moon-speak is. You'll always be a gaijin and nothing more. To a Jap your not human, they may like you but your still not a real person...more like a pet.
Fucking a Jap woman is like screwing a dolphin, the sounds are a total chubby killer.

I say retreat to a "nice" 3rd world country. Just do your research, live there a few years before you settle down and learn the fucking language. Spic talk is easy to learn and it will make your life so much easier.

I personally ended up in Costa Rica (they have special set of rules for Canadian expats that make citizenship a breeze) after my wife passed away and I once you adapt to the local customs and understand your the migrant now in someone else's home life will be good. I still head "home" to Canada for 4 months a year to keep my shit in order and see my family (and avoid the rainy season....getting used to weeks of rain takes some time), but I find life here so much better.

No chugs no Jeets and the corruption is open and "honest" unlike Canada where the politicians stab you in the face, sell out your children's futures and import a slave caste to replace you all while telling you it's for your own good, Taxing every cent you make 3 times at least while paying nothing themselves and while they do their best to make you jobless because their masters want more kickbacks.

I will take the slightly crooked cop who I have to buy coffee for and give a donation every now and then to any Canadian shitstain pol. At least the crooked cop will watch over my house and chase of the bums and when he takes my money he's not pretending to being doing ME the favour when he takes it.

 

[WanderingWalker]

You will NEVER fit in, no matter how good your moon-speak is. You'll always be a gaijin and nothing more. To a Jap your not human, they may like you but your still not a real person...more like a pet.

I mean... that's part of the positive imo tbh, if they were as 'accepting' of immigrants as the west has been I'd never want to go there because I'd expect them to end up Jeeted/Jihad'd within the immediate decade
I'd rather live amongst the high trust ethno-nationalism of the autistic japs than I would the 'we literally worship cow shit' ethno-nationalism of the street shitters y'know?

Fucking a Jap woman is like screwing a dolphin, the sounds are a total chubby killer.

... Fortunately for me I'm the type of fucked up autist that doesn't find a lot of appeal in sex (mix of some weird touch sensitivies & some other shit) so that's not an issue I'd have to deal with, but good to know regardless so I don't have to worry if my neighbours are mudering a porpoise if I ever end up living near a couple


As for the rest of your advice that is definitely useful info to know! Thanks, I'll have to keep that in mind while I'm trying to figure out what country(s) I'd be comfortable spending a few decades in, as I said the possibility of jap-land is most assuredly not even on the table for a long time until I can st least first guarantee I'd have the funds to live comfortably off of first, & by then the situation in Japan might've changed severly from what used to make it appealing if the Globalist's continue to have their way

 

[kawaiikat420]

Sure the Jap's are autistic AF, but they're also not beaners (if I have to share a society with them I'd prefer to continue doing so while in my own country like I already do) or jungle congs

This is sort of the trick: when you go to another developed nation, you retain your class, but when you go to a developing nation, you advance your class. I went from being barely able to afford groceries every month to being able to jetset around to different countries 6-8 times a year on a whim while still saving 50-60 percent of my paycheque.

In these immigration-opposed countries, you'll never really become a local. You'll always be a foreigner. That's a relief and a liberation because it means you'll never be held to the same standards as locals, but it can also be an isolating experience like our local Costa Rican mentioned in his post. You can live a life completely isolated from the locals and never really have to leave your expat bubble.

When you live in different countries abroad, you'll quickly realize that the stereotypes associated with that country are really only ever seen in the working class. The cultures of the middle and upper classes are relatively similar wherever you may find yourself. It's also important to note that many of these countries are not as bad as the Western media makes them out to be because the Western media is incentivized to make sure Westerners stay broke in the West.

I personally ended up in Costa Rica (they have special set of rules for Canadian expats that make citizenship a breeze)

I heard that Panama has a really excellent program for retirees too. If you have a pension above US$1000/month, you can basically live in the country full-time under a specific visa, and you get discounts between 20-30% on basically everything. Central and South American countries are less difficult to integrate into because they're still immigrant societies like Canada.

 

[AngryAboutInternets]

I went from being barely able to afford groceries every month to being able to jetset around to different countries 6-8 times a year on a whim while still saving 50-60 percent of my paycheque

Out of curiosity, what is your field of work? I can't even get a goddamned job in tech anymore even with a decent resume after the jeet invasion. I'm all but dead set on some kind of pivot, so if there's a good pivot for expats that isn't the (dying) laptop class of software engineers I'm gonna do that shit and get the hell out of here.

 

[WanderingWalker]

When you live in different countries abroad, you'll quickly realize that the stereotypes associated with that country are really only ever seen in the working class. The cultures of the middle and upper classes are relatively similar wherever you may find yourself. It's also important to note that many of these countries are not as bad as the Western media makes them out to be because the Western media is incentivized to make sure Westerners stay broke in the West.

Oh yeah no, I def understand that, I'd just prefer to at least experience a new foreign culture considering how... lacking my experience with the ones I already have to share a country with's been, y'now?

But again as I've said I'll be happy to take whatever I can hopefully end up with at the end of the day
The advice on locations/expectations to have is of course more than appreciated too

 

[kawaiikat420]

Out of curiosity, what is your field of work? I can't even get a goddamned job in tech anymore even with a decent resume after the jeet invasion. I'm all but dead set on some kind of pivot, so if there's a good pivot for expats that isn't the (dying) laptop class of software engineers I'm gonna do that shit and get the hell out of here.

Most of these countries suffer from the brain-drain. How it was explained to me is that at any given company, they have lots of hands and lots of feet, but very few heads. I.e., they've lots of workers to do the menial or basic tasks, but few with long-term vision, coordination abilities, and direction skills. They value people with past experience in those sorts of endeavors.

In your example, as someone that works in tech., might not it be a good idea to set up a freelancing business on the side? If you can build your network and find reliable partners that value your expertise as an independent contractor, you could try the digital nomad lifestyle. There are lots of developing countries that allow Canadians extended periods of time in the country (Thailand comes to mind), and although it's not technically legal to "work" there, it's extremely unlikely that you'd face any negative repercussions as long as everything is conducted online.

My own field of work is a bit too personal for me to divulge on the internet, I'm sorry to say.

 

[stupid frog]

New Tyler Oliveira video on the indiafication of Canada
https://youtube.com/watch?v=lMf1-vZQtDI (Archive)

He straight up hires a legit smuggler to get him across the border & he can barely speak a lick of english LMFAO, the fucking state of Canuckistan kiwibros

Edit: Ah shit, just realized I somehow completely missed that Point And Laugh had included the link to this earlier along with the clip of the based 'racist as the next guy' dude

He Private the video. Did he get in trouble or what?

 

[harbringer883]

He Private the video. Did he get in trouble or what?

Cyber force India mass reported it, and it looks like no one got a local archive.

 

[unholysedation777]

Most countries don't just accept immigrants near-automatically like ours does

Realising this back when I first started formally planning my escape route was probably the most crushing realisation of all. The fact that I got so desensitised to watching the great replacement happening before my very eyes that I overlooked the fact that other countries actually have... borders, believe it or not, and people actually aren't meant to be constantly country-hopping back and forth like they do in Canada, is really funny and sad to me in hindsight.

 

[WanderingWalker]

Cyber force India mass reported it, and it looks like no one got a local archive.

>Looks like no one got a local archive

I literally included a preservestube link below the video for that express purpose

 

[Outer Space Traveller]

I say retreat to a "nice" 3rd world country. Just do your research, live there a few years before you settle down and learn the fucking language. Spic talk is easy to learn and it will make your life so much easier.

I personally ended up in Costa Rica (they have special set of rules for Canadian expats that make citizenship a breeze) after my wife passed away and I once you adapt to the local customs and understand your the migrant now in someone else's home life will be good. I still head "home" to Canada for 4 months a year to keep my shit in order and see my family (and avoid the rainy season....getting used to weeks of rain takes some time), but I find life here so much better.

No chugs no Jeets and the corruption is open and "honest" unlike Canada where the politicians stab you in the face, sell out your children's futures and import a slave caste to replace you all while telling you it's for your own good, Taxing every cent you make 3 times at least while paying nothing themselves and while they do their best to make you jobless because their masters want more kickbacks.

I will take the slightly crooked cop who I have to buy coffee for and give a donation every now and then to any Canadian shitstain pol. At least the crooked cop will watch over my house and chase of the bums and when he takes my money he's not pretending to being doing ME the favour when he takes it.

As expected, unfortunately, of the rest of LatAm. Yet strangely enough, Brazil is somewhat ""going woke"" with policies (perhaps due to its sizeable economy & raw materials, being an attractive to the cunts named "elites"), while Costa Rica isn't as much. So it's better to keep an eye on that.
Personally, I eye the Southern areas of Chile. I won't call learning Spanish "winging it", yet to someone who knows Portuguese it is quite a relatively easy task.

As for Nippon...

As someone whose lived in Jap land I tell you to stay away.

It's expensive as all fuck, like crazy
The work culture is sick and will kill you.
You will never understand the Jap cultural rules, shit is so wack. No really.
You will NEVER fit in, no matter how good your moon-speak is. You'll always be a gaijin and nothing more. To a Jap your not human, they may like you but your still not a real person...more like a pet.
Fucking a Jap woman is like screwing a dolphin, the sounds are a total chubby killer.

I have been seeing videos of some people who say it that even for foreigners who "try to fit it in" the best they can expect is to be routinely visited by the company in their shitty apartment every 3 or so months (depending the company?) which is meant to be a way to say "so, when are you leaving?".

I agree with your assessment of at best, if you are a fit or good looking "Huwaitu" you will be treated as a "curiosity". It reminds me of some vlogs I saw of White persons who were born in Japan of expatriate couples (White father and White mother) and they weren't accounted for being Japanese. I can commend Japan for thinking as such yet... you know, it's a bit of an identity loss I guess?

The second best chance someone has is Taiwan, Hong Kong or even "China's Florida", Hainan province. According to an AI summary - it has respectable living standards:

Spoiler: Wordswordswords.

Hainan’s living standards in 2025–2026 present a "high-quality, moderate-income" scenario compared to the rest of China, characterized by superior environmental health, rapid development as a Free Trade Port (FTP), and a relaxed lifestyle, while still facing challenges with lower average wages and high living costs in popular tourist spots.
Here is a detailed breakdown of how Hainan compares to the rest of China:
1. Cost of Living vs. Income (The "Gap")

• High Costs/Low Wages Paradox: While Hainan is developing rapidly, it has historically struggled with a "high prices, low wages" contradiction. Some residents have noted that while average salaries can be in the 2,000–3,000 RMB/month range, daily expenses like pork and vegetables are high.
• Affordability: Generally, monthly living costs for a basic, non-luxury lifestyle can range from ¥2,000 to ¥3,500 ($279–$48. It is often described as more affordable than tier-one cities like Beijing or Shanghai, with the option for lower-cost living if one stays out of the tourist centers.
• Income Trends: The disposable income per capita in Hainan has shown growth, reaching 36,306 RMB by Dec 2025. However, this is generally lower than in coastal provinces like Zhejiang or Guangdong.

2. Environment and Quality of Life

• Best Air Quality: Hainan offers arguably the best air quality in China. It is frequently considered a "last paradise" for its lack of industrial haze pollution.
• "Migratory Bird" Destination: The island is a premier destination for Northern Chinese retirees seeking to escape winter. With a temperate climate and high-quality, comfortable living, many find it more relaxing than Beijing.
• Urban Livability: The capital, Haikou, was ranked 8th among the most livable cities in China in 2025, praised for its exceptional ecological environment and public services.

3. Economic Growth and Development (FTP)

• Free Trade Port (FTP) Impact: With the "two-line" customs system in place by late 2025, Hainan is moving towards zero tariffs on many imports. This is increasing availability of international goods, though sometimes at premium prices.
• Tourism and Infrastructure: The island is rapidly expanding its tourism industry, including high-end luxury shopping (Sanya’s duty-free malls) and modern, high-speed rail.
• Lagging Behind Major Zones: Despite its growth, Hainan is still considered a developing area compared to established Chinese special economic zones, with relatively little direct foreign investment, according to a 2026 report.

4. Healthcare and Amenities

• Advanced Medicine: Hainan has a unique focus on medical tourism, particularly in the Boao Lecheng International Medical Tourism Pilot Zone, which offers cutting-edge international healthcare and high-level, resort-style health checks.
• Tourism Focus: The, southern city of Sanya is highly international and luxurious, with top-tier hotels and marinas, while the rest of the island offers a more rural, rustic experience.

Summary Comparison Table

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Hainan (2025-2026)​

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Mainland (Tier 1/2 Cities)​

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[td]Air Quality[/td][td]Excellent (Top in China)[/td][td]Often Low (Smog/Industrial)[/td] [td]Cost of Living[/td][td]Moderate to High (Tourist areas)[/td][td]High (Rent/Services)[/td] [td]Avg Wages[/td][td]Low to Moderate[/td][td]High[/td] [td]Lifestyle[/td][td]Relaxed, "Vacation" Feel[/td][td]Fast-paced, Competitive[/td] [td]Tax Rate[/td][td]Low (15% for talent/firms)[/td][td]High (Standard 25%+)[/td]

Conclusion: Hainan offers a much better quality of life (environment, health, leisure) than most of China, particularly for retirees and those seeking a slower pace. However, in terms of earning potential and cost-of-living affordability for young professionals, it still lags behind major economic hubs like Shenzhen or Shanghai.

 

[Never Scored]

Frankly, I don't think it's that easy to get a job in either unless you're already there with a work permit. I tried to do exactly that (use services/social media to get a job in a second/third world country and then get a visa and move) and nobody gave a single solitary shit. I was even willing to accept local salaries, not giga-inflated first world ones, and I could barely get more than a "ask someone else, we wish you luck". Most countries don't just accept immigrants near-automatically like ours does, you need to have a specialized skill to get a job to get in, or already be legal to get a job. Of course you can always just break the law, most of them don't have police that are nearly well-equipped enough to hunt down every cracker overstaying a visa, but after seeing what that did to Canada I don't think anyone with a sense of ethics or morality would want to do it.

Move there, use a VPN to set your location in Canada and work remotely at some bullshit tech support job. You could probably work for 20 hours a week and live decently.

 

[AngryAboutInternets]

Move there, use a VPN to set your location in Canada and work remotely at some bullshit tech support job.

I can't even get one of those jobs. I've applied to probably 200 jobs of that type in the last year and never gotten a call back. If you haven't been job-searching in Canada lately you really, truly do not understand how fucked this nation is. I went through four caseworkers at the local employment center in 9 10 months (3 of them quit abruptly). They couldn't find me a single job posting that would accept me, in any field of work, anywhere within 50km. It's that fucked.