Canada is a failed state

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If you think Pierre will fix anything you truly are naive
The main reason I'm willing to vote for Pierre anymore is primarily out of the hope he'll at least delay the oncoming collapse by long enough for me to have the time to get my shit together & hopefully land myself a new home in a less fucked country, rather than continuing to bulldoze our way to the point of no return as fast as possible like the libs have been doing
 

The topic of gender identity also caused a stir on the convention floor.

Delegates were asked to vote on a proposal affirming the right of parents to seek “body-affirming talk therapy” for children who are struggling with their gender identity. Supporters of the proposal spoke of the fear that some therapists steer youth towards medical practices to change their gender.

But other delegates disagreed sharply with the proposal, specifically a phrase voicing disagreement with an existing federal ban on “conversion therapy.” Conversion therapy is commonly understood as therapy that tries to change an individual’s sexual orientation from homosexual to heterosexual.

The proposal was the only one to fail, with nearly 52 per cent of delegates voting against it.

They've now completely capitulated on the trans issue to appease leftists. Under a prime minister Poilievre, you WILL troon your kids out under the threat of life inprisonment, chud
 
The main reason I'm willing to vote for Pierre anymore is primarily out of the hope he'll at least delay the oncoming collapse
That's already happened. Were you not here the last 10 years? We're in a post-collapse Canada. Not to be too whitepilled but it can only get better.
 
The fact that we can have federal elections as little as 7 months
It was 3 elections in 10 years. 93, 97 and 2000
I don’t see why the Liberals would call an election
Can a Canadian explain this to me? I am so confused about when and why Canada has elections. Is there not a set schedule? Do you just have to wait until the people currently in charge decide to do it? I’d there term limits to any of the offices? How in the world can anything function when elections can be whenever??
 
Can a Canadian explain this to me? I am so confused about when and why Canada has elections. Is there not a set schedule? Do you just have to wait until the people currently in charge decide to do it? I’d there term limits to any of the offices? How in the world can anything function when elections can be whenever??
No set schedule, but one gets automatically called 4 years after the last one. End result is that they get called when it suits the liberal party the most, as they can call it when their popularity is highest and get the votes in just before people realize they were full of shit
 
Can a Canadian explain this to me? I am so confused about when and why Canada has elections. Is there not a set schedule? Do you just have to wait until the people currently in charge decide to do it? I’d there term limits to any of the offices? How in the world can anything function when elections can be whenever??
In order

-A single Term is technically 4 Years
-An Election can be called at any time before the Term expires, usually done if the ruling party is confident they can get a majority, occasionally if they really need to distract from a scandal
-Lul. We don’t have Term Limits. You can be PM or sit in Parliament as many times as you can get elected to it, and the Senate is until you either retire or die.
-Very fucking poorly.
 
Can a Canadian explain this to me? I am so confused about when and why Canada has elections. Is there not a set schedule? Do you just have to wait until the people currently in charge decide to do it? I’d there term limits to any of the offices? How in the world can anything function when elections can be whenever??

One every four years but the opposition can call an early election if they get enough votes in parliament. This typically happens when there is a minority government. Or the ruling party can call one whenever they feel like it. Typically when they think they can score more seats via current popularity.

Our last election was called roughly seven months early because the Liberals, who had a minority government, lost a confidence vote in the house after Carney was named leader. Liberals now have a minority government still but are only one seat from a majority. Some think that due to Carney’s post-Davos popularity, if they called another election, the Liberals would get a majority. Giving them unchecked power to do whatever they want in Parliament.
 
Can a Canadian explain this to me? I am so confused about when and why Canada has elections. Is there not a set schedule? Do you just have to wait until the people currently in charge decide to do it? I’d there term limits to any of the offices? How in the world can anything function when elections can be whenever??
The Canadian constitution does not lay out even the basic requirement that elections be held.
 
The Canadian constitution does not lay out even the basic requirement that elections be held.
I suppose this makes sense only because Canada wanted to be ruled by a royal family rather than complete independence. I still can’t comprehend how this hasn’t led to real conflict. It seems like a system designed for manipulation.
 
I suppose this makes sense only because Canada wanted to be ruled by a royal family rather than complete independence. I still can’t comprehend how this hasn’t led to real conflict. It seems like a system designed for manipulation.
The constitution was ratified in 1982!
 
The main reason I'm willing to vote for Pierre anymore is primarily out of the hope he'll at least delay the oncoming collapse by long enough for me to have the time to get my shit together & hopefully land myself a new home in a less fucked country, rather than continuing to bulldoze our way to the point of no return as fast as possible like the libs have been doing
True enough.

Where do you intend to go? Are you one of the lucky few who are able to repatriate back to Europe (before Italy changed it's citizenship by descent laws I know people were able to get Italian citizenship because their grandparent/great grandparents immigrated in the early 1900s),
 
Can a Canadian explain this to me? I am so confused about when and why Canada has elections. Is there not a set schedule? Do you just have to wait until the people currently in charge decide to do it? I’d there term limits to any of the offices? How in the world can anything function when elections can be whenever??
Imagine if the speaker of the house also ran the executive branch with other members of congress picked for cabinet posts. That is the Westminster system. The Governor General represents the crown and signs legislation but has a ceremonial role. Previously they would be international ambassadors and represent the nation.

Our electoral terms are 5 years, however tradition holds that elections are held every fourish years with the Canada Elections act stating every 4 years on 15 October. However, it can be repealed. As well the PM can dissolve parliament and call an election whenever they want within those 5 years. PMs do not have term limits and they can stick around forever.

We vote for the party as a block, individual Members of Parliament don't really matter and the parties vote as a block in parliament. Voting against your party is a surefire way to get kicked from caucus. So someone like Massey throwing a tantrum would see him kicked to the curb and out of the party if it was the Canadian system. Independents do not last long outside of a party.

We also don't hold things like primaries in the same way the US does. Each riding(our congressional district) has riding associations for each major party. Each riding association picks it's candidate either through a vote, or they just appoint one. There are tons of backdoor deals to ensure certain candidates get certain ridings.

Our Senate is basically a parking lot for retired politicos and it's appointed. It does nothing but suck down tax dollars.
 
I still can’t comprehend how this hasn’t led to real conflict
Population of 95%+ cucks and brainwashing victims. Straight up China-level disconnection from reality, maybe greater considering that China at least has an economy and makes a lot of shit. Average person literally doesn't know a fucking thing about our country, laws, political system, etc. In fact, they've often been taught totally incorrect information as though it was fact. Also, the average person is such a pussy that the idea of political violence not only isn't an option to them, but instead is "that bad thing that happens in America or something" that they use to feel morally superior to others.

What you have to understand as well is that Canada used to be a very white and very rural country and has been coasting on the momentum of that era ever since our little miniature great leap forward. The only reason we are even a semi-functional nation in the current year (+11) is because of proximity to America, pre-existing infrastructure, and not being communist enough to be a target of regime change during the cold war. There has not been a decent leader in this country for generations. Nothing is maintained, nothing is grown except the wealth of the upper class. The corruption is so deep and so blatant at all levels of government that it's basically a running joke to those who acknowledge it. Most don't even acknowledge it, you can show them evidence and they will deny the ability to see it.

Without the momentum of the past we would be Venezuela, or maybe Zimbabwe.
 
I suppose this makes sense only because Canada wanted to be ruled by a royal family rather than complete independence. I still can’t comprehend how this hasn’t led to real conflict. It seems like a system designed for manipulation.
It is. That's why Alberta is leaving, it's literally taxation without representation the way things are stacked against Alberta.
 
If you think Pierre will fix anything you truly are naive
It makes me feel bad to say, but it really is hopeless. There are no parties in the plural sense. There's a single party with a different faces. It's maintained by an established elite and caters to their interests, which are naturally opposed to the interests of the common people. Regardless of which party is in power, the end goals of each are the same.

That's why Alberta is leaving
If Alberta leaves, it'll be renamed New Khalbertastan within a decade. Which, of course, is what the provincial and federal elites desire.
 
The Canadian constitution
Canada doesn't have a constitution in the same sense the US does. The USA needed a clear foundational ground hence why their constitution lays basic political orgsanisms. The Charter of Rights and Freedoms which is what people usually think is our constitution is moreso the equivalent of the US Bill of Rights. Like the UK, we just have a long series of acts of parliament slowly changing the role and scope of each political body.
 
I suppose this makes sense only because Canada wanted to be ruled by a royal family rather than complete independence. I still can’t comprehend how this hasn’t led to real conflict. It seems like a system designed for manipulation.
As a fellow American, yep, it is about as bullshit as you imagine. Have a lead in the polls? Call a new election. Its why there might be an election in the spring: As its a general election, it means that all the MP's are up for election as well, which in turn affects the balance of power in the Parliament (functionally, House of Representatives). Now, to make it more fun, the PM is also the leader of the party, and they don't have primaries. So they can kick out someone who has been "Complicated", air drop a new candidate on the party line, and then remove an dissenting voices. Their Senate is toothless all told as well.

The level of power a PM has is shocking to our American sensibilities.

There may absolutely be conflicts, but the Canadians are ok with it. They think "We aren't like those Americans, with the BS electoral college, or gov't shutdowns" and move on with their lives. And to be fair, there is a lot less friction in their system, for better or worse. With both the FN and Quebec issues, they got enough friction though. (Also worth noting, the shit that Quebec gets away with is mind boggling as well, if you ever want to go down that rabbit hole)

For the pro Alberta separation bros, have you come to terms with the current "Americans are influencing Albertan seperation" yet? You know the end goal if Separation wins is to declare the whole thing invalid because of it, right? Alberta is the piggy bank that Quebec never was when the seperation laws were drafted. And you never let the piggy bank leave

EDIT: Also mark me late, because OutInTheRain did about as good as I could have
 
True enough.

Where do you intend to go? Are you one of the lucky few who are able to repatriate back to Europe (before Italy changed it's citizenship by descent laws I know people were able to get Italian citizenship because their grandparent/great grandparents immigrated in the early 1900s),
Fuck I wish I had those kind of options available to me, at best I could maybe get Portuguese citizenship from my dad's side (grandparents came here under Turdo the 1st (& they've collectively voted exactly as you'd expect up until my gen)), but that'd depend entirely on whether they still even have the proper documents, much less would allow me access to then & unfortunately while my mom's side is a mutt of Ukrainian & several EU/UK nationalities, they're also either founding stocks or count as close enough to not matter

Personally I'd be good with any country, I'd prefer a more moderate climate than somewhere tropical, but so long as it's not in as bad a death spiral as Canada & has decent living conditions it'll be good enough to live out my dying days in.
If that's America, Portugal, or some other 2nd world country (my joke about Venezuela some pages back wasn't entirely facetious, tho such a scenario'd def depend heavily on how things look to be developing over the next few years to even consider) so be it.

Tbh I'd love Japan (you may get the weeb jokes out of your system, you can't deny it's a beautiful country w/one of the few still majorly homogenous 1st world, cultures & they do rank on the top 3 for global healthcare) but I also know how strict their standards are for anyone who's not a "vacationing" turd worlder to immigrate so I don't see that happening
 
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There may absolutely be conflicts, but the Canadians are ok with it. They think "We aren't like those Americans, with the BS electoral college, or gov't shutdowns" and move on with their lives. And to be fair, there is a lot less friction in their system, for better or worse. With both the FN and Quebec issues, they got enough friction though. (Also worth noting, the shit that Quebec gets away with is mind boggling as well, if you ever want to go down that rabbit hole)
Most Canadians don't know about what goes on. Our largest media organization is the government run CBC. Which is notorious for nepotism and controls a lot of our media narrative. The Canadian establishment uses American politics as reality tv for the boomer crowd and the millennial crowd that still thinks it's 2003. Questioning the Liberal party or any opposition to the direction the government takes routinely gets dismissed as "American."

With Quebec, in order to keep Quebec in Confederation. The rest of the country has become a vassal state of Quebec and the Quebec establishment. We call them the Laurentian elites. You can't get to any level of prominence in the Federal Government unless you have French, and it is fairly well known that the French test as administered by the Federal Civil Service is much, much more difficult than the English test. Which is designed to keep the English out of power. Quebec itself is a basketcase in its politics where some of them are still seething about the time the Premier BTFOd the commies and committed the grave sin of spending tax dollars outside of Montreal and Quebec City(I am aware it is more complex than that, but not much more).

Canada is proof that a multicultural nation cannot exist. It's always been French vs English and we've always hated each other. Quebec should be an independent nation just so we can get the fuck away from them.
 
Tbh I'd love Japan
As a result of living in a country in which one's labour and education are significantly degraded, citizens of the developed world are often unaware of their innate value and appeal.

Developing countries really really want university-educated professionals from the developed world. Why live like a slave in Japan, one of the most autistic countries on Earth, when you could live like royalty in Vietnam or Mexico?

The rest of the country has become a vassal state of Quebec and the Quebec establishment. We call them the Laurentian elites.
I disagree. I consider the Laurentian elites to be functionally bilingual individuals that inhabit the Windsor-Quebec City corridor. The Laurentians do as much of a disservice to Francophones as they do to Anglophones.

Quebec should be an independent nation just so we can get the fuck away from them.
Quebec should get everything east of Ontario, Manitoba everything west, and then both should firebomb Ontario after sending all the roaches there for a cheeky 'holiday.'
 
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