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Is there any age breakdown/analysis of the votes? Is it really White Boomers that bloc vote for the liberals?
i remember seeing a chart that said the boomers overwhelmingly said that trump was their biggest issue during the election. And videos of Carney supporters going up and marching for "elbows up" were mainly white liberal boomers. The only boomers that are conservative (and chill in general) are in Western Canada, usually centered in places that vote conservative anyways.
 
Looks like our "friend" JJ McCullough posted a video giving his thoughts on Alberta separation.


All I can do is shake my head. Yes, Alberta separatism is a thing. Maybe not a large movement, but to dismiss it outright is folly because it could explode some time in the future under the right conditions. Will Alberta secede from Canada in the short term? No, but the only thing keeping Canada together at this point is duct tape and prayer. Our national identity is the most strident form of anti-Americanism, quasi-corporate slogans cooked up in focus groups, and the most useless platitudes ever devised by man. Ottawa has demonstrated that it wants to lock us in the same dysfunctional cycle of Laurentian stupidity so there is no logical reason to stay. They have nothing to offer and claiming that we'll be landlocked has zero effect because that is what British Columbia and Quebec have been doing that for decades and Manitoba under Wab Kinew appears to be joining in. It is better to end this charade as it makes Canada utterly pathetic.
 
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The Wild Rose is defunct, but with the rise of Daniel Smith they are the dominant wing of the United Conservative Party.

Alberta separatism is fringe, but growing.
The thing that people need to understand is that all that matters is a sizable chunk of people form a base for it before something cataclysmic happens to create the perfect conditions for it to explode. This is the case for most movements. In a weird way Alberta separatism is a top-down movement being created by Daniel Smith.
 
All I can do is shake my head. Yes, Alberta separatism is a thing. Maybe not a large movement, but to dismiss it outright is folly because it could explode some time in the future under the right conditions. Will Alberta secede from Canada in the short term? No, but the only thing keeping Canada together at this point is duct tape and prayer. Our national identity is the most strident form of anti-Americanism, quasi-corporate slogans cooked up in focus groups, and the most useless platitudes ever devised by man. Ottawa has demonstrated that it wants to lock us in the same dysfunctional cycle of Laurentian stupidity so there is no logical reason to stay. They have nothing to offer and claiming that we'll be landlocked has zero effect because that is what British Columbia and Quebec have been doing that for decades and Manitoba under Wab Kinew appears to be joining in. It is better to end this charade as it makes Canada utterly pathetic.
Canada straight up doesn't have a culture anymore, due to Canada being a "post-national state" and the Quiet Revolution destroying most of french canadian culture outside the language. So there's nothing holding Alberta down culturally. By default alberta will have more of a culture than the rest of Canada, even if it was really only "gas and oil". Still unlikely for Independence to happen for the foreseeable future, but it would be funny if we somehow did gain independence in the next few years, and even more so, if we miraculously remained independent instead of joining the USA.

Also like one of the comments of the video said, no one took Brexit or Trump in 2016 seriously either. Regardless of what you think of Brexit or Trump's presidency, the point is that movements people believed would never come close to succeeding did, even if not everything went well for post Brexit Britain or Trump's first term.

Western alienation has been around since at least Trudeau sr (who also alienated Quebec). So it isn't a "fad" like some people claim, but I do agree the last decade of liberal extremism did factor into that. Would the CPC winning this year lowed tensions, yes, but like many of you guys know by now, most of Canada's issues are terminally and have been affecting Canada for decades now, even if they weren't as severe until 2015.

Lets say Pierre became PM with a slight majority this year, and everything miraculously goes well for him and the country. The country's institutions are like Venezuela's, weak and corrupt despite the country's enormous potential. Due to the lack of checks and balances within the political system, it would only take another hard leftist leader like Trudeau for everything to go back to square one.
 
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Looks like our "friend" JJ McCullough posted a video giving his thoughts on Alberta separation.

https://youtube.com/watch?v=v55Om6Lfj_c
All I can do is shake my head. Yes, Alberta separatism is a thing. Maybe not a large movement, but to dismiss it outright is folly because it could explode some time in the future under the right conditions. Will Alberta secede from Canada in the short term? No, but the only thing keeping Canada together at this point is duct tape and prayer. Our national identity is the most strident form of anti-Americanism, quasi-corporate slogans cooked up in focus groups, and the most useless platitudes ever devised by man. Ottawa has demonstrated that it wants to lock us in the same dysfunctional cycle of Laurentian stupidity so there is no logical reason to stay. They have nothing to offer and claiming that we'll be landlocked has zero effect because that is what British Columbia and Quebec have been doing that for decades and Manitoba under Wab Kinew appears to be joining in. It is better to end this charade as it makes Canada utterly pathetic.
>Status quo enjoyer says to enjoy the status quo
What's new here?
 
Quiet Revolution destroying most of french canadian culture outside the language. So there's nothing holding Alberta down culturally.
People really overlook how much Quebec culture has really become just about language post-Quiet Revolution, and often forget that it was essentially a clerical state beforehand where nearly all elements of French Canadian society were directed by the church, (which did do its part in preserving family structures and ensuring French demographic supremacy over the Anglos with its 'revenge of the cradle' policies ironically enough).

Because of this collapse the Catholic church in Quebec effectively commands even less social influence than the Catholic church in France, which despite its highly-publicized destruction during the French Revolution, is still somewhat seen as an integral part of French culture- this is to the point where the Catholic synod considers Quebec to be missionary territory. And because the Catholic church in Quebec is dead as a social force, laïcité in Quebec is also even likely more corrosive than it is in France- the whole crucifix issue in the Blue Room would have never been an issue in France because France would have never considered sacrificing its cultural memory in exchange for any supposed procedural fairness against other religions.

Ultimately it means that Quebec overcompensates on language and its few institutions (Hydro Quebec, the Habs) because it's essentially what they have left as distinguishers- Quebeckers are more similar to other Canadians and Americans than what they would like to admit (despite their claims on 'Europeanness' and a few Old Quebec City streets), and despite Anglos having just as valid a claim on Quebec as a homeland as the French, being a Quebecker has been flattened into just speaking French, which means that a FOTB Haitian or Maghrebi will always be more of a Quebecker than an Anglo (who exist solely to be tax cattle/scapegoats and to have their English-speaking institutions crushed).

It's quite a pitiful situation, really.
 
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eople are stuck in the 90s and have their heads so far up their asses that we'd need a miracle for them to see reality. They'll sit there with their eyes shut, hands over their ears, screeching "Canada GUD America BAD" because lies make them feel safe and secure. It's cringe to witness.
Boomers and Gen X have this very strange but unmovable belief that "CANADA GUD AMERICA BAD" but can never actually tell you why. Only that it is so and nuh uh.
To go a step further, BC has effectively ceded sovereignty of the Queen Charlotte Islands/Haida Gwaii back to the chugs, effectively meaning that for any reason the council or whatever can take your home or property at any time for any reason at all.

Expect more land across the country to be ceded to them, particularly either in BC again or in Manitoba since their Premier is a chug
Oh boy, so now they're making second class citizen status more overt. Can't wait to see public or otherwise owned land ceded to chugs who will deface it.
ahahaha Quebec is beyond pozzed:


We already knew that chugs aren't responsible for their actions because of Muh Residential Schools, but now blacks are getting in on that. JFC. I'll send you people aide when you rise up.
I laugh whenever Quebec tries to LARP as based.
When things like development projects happen the bands can send out small militia of unemployed residents to sabotage and protest.
Don't forget the church burnings and attacks. In a way they operate similar to how the ANC operates in South Africa, a dual pronged legal and terroristic assault.
Excellent answers all around gentleman, appreciate it. I watched some of the Frances Widdowsen videos, the grave stuff is just ridiculous. It seems like almost every Anglosphere country have populations of formerly victimized people who suffered centuries ago and have been milking it ever since, doing nothing to actually change their lot in life because "well I'm native and our lives suck so why should I bother trying at all." Nice of the government to enable that with benefits and healthcare and all that lol
It's marxism applied to all facets of life. Everything is Oppressor v Oppressed.
 
Oh boy, so now they're making second class citizen status more overt. Can't wait to see public or otherwise owned land ceded to chugs who will deface it.
I just wonder how poorly they'll run "their" new land, probably as poorly as Zimbabwe, SA, or even the wells mr.beast built in Africa.
I laugh whenever Quebec tries to LARP
Fob immigrants are now learning French in order to move Quebec (they'll get what they voted for), alongside all the middle easterns and Africans who speak French. Also like another user said earlier, the Catholic Church in Quebec is irrelevant and whenever they do something, it's to house migrants in Canada. Just like many churches do in places like Europe or even the USA. Ironically the most religious places in Canada are also the most liberal and woke, like Quebec or Atlantic Canada. While on the other hand Western Canada is more conservative (outside urban B.C) while also being less religious.
 
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Canada straight up doesn't have a culture anymore, due to Canada being a "post-national state" and the Quiet Revolution destroying most of french canadian culture outside the language. So there's nothing holding Alberta down culturally.
Also seeing Mississauga raising the Indian flag for Indian independence day is a big black pill.

We're openly tying ourselves civically to India. The next time Pakistan or some other country attacks India, get ready for 'We need to help our Indian brothers against these Pakistani dogs'

This is already kind of a thing in the UK, though they have an even number of people from both nations, but I'm just sick of this shit.
 
Looking forward to next years population census so we can truly see how jeeted things have become
2021 was 7% south asian (indian/pakistani/sri lankan its all the same kind of person), whats your predictions for 2026?
They'll heavily undersell how many immigrants there are in Canada (though that's expected). I could see a suprise huge decline of white Canadians even Quebec as they allow anyone who speaks French in there and because their churches help house immigrants. I also won't be surprised if there's more regional Indians in Canada than back in India or Pakistan.

Many leftist Canadians will celebrate the decline of Anglo/French Canadian as Redemption for their colonial history. Dumb for a sane person, but we do not live in a sane country. I won't be surprised if we reached 50 million already...in 5 years.
 
News is leaking out that the Trudeau Liberals were heavily massaging the immigration numbers
Isn't this common knowledge? I've been hearing murmurings about this since at least 2018 or 2019 - I'm pretty sure the government 'lost track' sometime in the mid-2010s, but obviously the issue has exacerbated since then. It makes more sense if you look at the number of government workers in the immigration department versus the number of immigrants; it's something like 12-13 thousand employees in charge of millions and millions of immigrants. Naturally, they'd lose track sooner or later.

There is no difference. I don't mean that in the edgelord 'all liberal democratic parties are the same'. I mean that in the sense of, if you hate Carney or Trudeau- PP comes from the same source of the rot.
The source of the rot is the FPTP system we have here.
 
Alberta separatism is fringe, but growing.
The thing that people need to understand is that all that matters is a sizable chunk of people form a base for it before something cataclysmic happens to create the perfect conditions for it to explode. This is the case for most movements. In a weird way Alberta separatism is a top-down movement being created by Daniel Smith.
I've heard before that up to two year prior no one predicted the dissolution of the USSR.
Don't forget the church burnings and attacks. In a way they operate similar to how the ANC operates in South Africa, a dual pronged legal and terroristic assault.
Yes, I'm surprised I failed to mention that one. So much shit happens these days, the memory hole is real. Big difference here being here is I assume the black outnumber the whites in South Africa, obviously in Canada the natives remain a much smaller and isolated minority.
Boomers and Gen X have this very strange but unmovable belief that "CANADA GUD AMERICA BAD" but can never actually tell you why. Only that it is so and nuh uh.
Well they always used to say healthcare, but I haven't heard any bragging about that lately. That was always paired it with Americans being ignorant and uneducated, something I have always found to be a very snobby and annoying superiority complex
I get the sentiment... but at the same time the problem with deconstruction is forgetting you need to rebuild something after.

Honest question... assuming Carney completely blows a gasket and leaves in disgrace next election, there an idea of what's next or are we rolling the dice?
I think it's still a dice roll at this point. Carney was made by Trump simply talking shit, he can be broken by Trump. What'll happen when or if Trump actually follows through with anything, like tearing or changing up the USMCA (if he can even do that) is yet to be seen.
 
Looking forward to next years population census so we can truly see how jeeted things have become
2021 was 7% south asian (indian/pakistani/sri lankan its all the same kind of person), whats your predictions for 2026?
At least 20%
 
Also seeing Mississauga raising the Indian flag for Indian independence day is a big black pill.
To be blunt, I don't find this Canada going any lower, but that's because this moment's already happened with China. Remember Trudeau basically getting soft-shamed by Xi Xinping a few years ago? Canada's been farming for this for a while and this may be them reconsidering who they're trying to attach to.
I've heard before that up to two year prior no one predicted the dissolution of the USSR.
I can back this up. The USSR was good at one thing. Propaganda. Lazerpig's a bit cringe, but the Lazerpig Loop is independently correct from what I know of foreign policy, and our main way of seeing the USSR's "development" given all those layers of propaganda amounted to military displays.

So Russia hypes up superweapon -> US panics -> US makes superweapon to combat USSR's perceived superweapon -> USSR was bullshitting the entire time, US is not -> Everyone laughs at the USSR and stops taking them seriously at some level -> Back to start because USSR's dignity needs restoring.

Said in a UK thread... when you get big societal changes, it's usually like a glacier cleaving off into the ocean... or an iceberg flipping over.
 
GOVERNMENT ORDERS UGLY AND INCOMPETENT STEWARDESSES TO END THE STRIKE AND BACK TO WORK.

ELBOWS UP LOOOOL

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Seriously tho, Air Canada has the most ugliest and rudest stewardesses of all time.
 
It is actually hilarious how right-wing Carney is on economics. At this point I wouldn't be surprised if he starts privatizing healthcare to cut costs.
 
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The Wild Rose is defunct, but with the rise of Daniel Smith they are the dominant wing of the United Conservative Party.

Alberta separatism is fringe, but growing.
The thing that people need to understand is that all that matters is a sizable chunk of people form a base for it before something cataclysmic happens to create the perfect conditions for it to explode. This is the case for most movements. In a weird way Alberta separatism is a top-down movement being created by Daniel Smith.
Lol love how that commentator is combining Peter Zeihan with Zohran Mamdani
Also seeing Mississauga raising the Indian flag for Indian independence day is a big black pill.

We're openly tying ourselves civically to India. The next time Pakistan or some other country attacks India, get ready for 'We need to help our Indian brothers against these Pakistani dogs'

This is already kind of a thing in the UK, though they have an even number of people from both nations, but I'm just sick of this shit.
I will be siding with Pakistan as I want to them to nuke India.

Islam at least somewhat keeps the Jeets in line compared to their weird Hindu Pagan and Sikh religions.
 
It is actually hilarious how right-wing Carney is on economics. At this point I wouldn't be surprised if he starts privatizing healthcare to cut costs.
Messing with that sacred cow would probably kill any federal politician's career.

Also, don't you just love that the government is bringing these people back with your tax dollars?
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